Mexico Mexico - Jenny Chen, 26, Oaxaca, 11 April 2016 #1

[Lilibet]

I hope you don't mind my digging up this old post. I haven't gotten it out of my mind. I know that JR deleted posts asking about the notebook, and recently he changed his tune about it being her writing (other than her name written in Chinese). Whether or not it is her writing, is anybody else familiar with spots' posting about drug dealers' slang? I found it so interesting! Let's just say there is something to this.... could explain why JR is distancing Jenny from these entries.

If this were drug related, wouldn't the PI have picked up on that? Sorry if it's already been discussed to death.

I don't think it was discussed much. It was an intersting post. JR said the notebook belonged to a shopkeeper, so that could explain the items, I guess. But we can never tell if JR is "accurate." JMO If it was drug related, you'd think the PI would have checked on it...but who knows?

 

[LisaWL7TR]

BBM

I believe it was the Wikipedia article I linked about the movie that said her marriage was destroyed or words to that effect. I've never read the book or seen the movie so I don't know how they presented it. The fact that her ex sent her supplies and supportive notes tells me their relationship was or became amicable.

I agree that it's quite possible Jenny had decided to move on. I believe it was verified that she did not board a flight to Cuba FWIW. Of course, moving on doesn't mean that something bad hasn't happened to her that JR doesn't know about. I certainly hope she is safe.

OT--Beware! Rant ahead--JMO, MOO--I had never seen the piece from Sugar/Cheryl's column. I just have to stand up and say that I think "Wanting to leave is enough" is extremely self-involved and potentially damaging advice. I really hope Jenny didn't follow it. Call me old fashioned. It's OK. I'm very proud and happy that as two children of divorce my husband and I will have the satisfaction and joy of celebrating 50 years of love and adventures in September. There are many times I've wanted to leave for no reason other than my own issues, but I honored my marriage vows/commitment. So has my husband. We are two very imperfect people with lots of baggage who married in college and who periodically strongly clash on certain issues large and small. But we love each other fiercely and vowed to do so in good or bad times, which we have done. It's possible we could have been better off with other partners or alone, but we chose not to find out.

All the "even thoughs" on that list are reasons we have stayed together and did not dispose of our mate. Was it messy and inconvenient at times? Sure. Life is messy and inconvenient. Was it joyful at times. Sure. Life is joyful. Was it boring at times? Sure. Life is boring. And life is not only about me, myself and I. Just "wanting to leave," when you have made a commitment to another human being, is NOT enough. "Earn" your leaving by trying your hardest to stay and make it work. You may be glad you did. We are!

I don't mean this rant as a criticism of anyone who has ended their marriage or relationship. I just feel the need to counteract this particular advice with my personal experience and opinion, in the hope that anyone who thinks "wanting to leave is enough" will give it some thought before leaving. I realize many will disagree with me and that's OK. I don't want to derail the thread. End rant.

ETA--I didn't realize until reading a link about Sugar's advice that "Wanting to leave is enough" was written to her twenty-year-old self about breaking up with a college boyfriend. That's a quite different context than leaving a committed relationship, and in that case, I agree. But I do stand by my opinion that it's poor advice for anyone in a committed relationship who reads it as applying to everyone. JMO

been married 27 years working on 28 and I have had many moments of screaming(unrelated to sex) but still we have chosen to continue onward together.

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[Lilibet]

been married 27 years working on 28 and I have had many moments of screaming(unrelated to sex) but still we have chosen to continue onward together.

Sent from my SCH-I545

Congratulations! Love your humor!

 

[LisaWL7TR]

I hadn't followed Tricia's case. How tragic. And how creepy of her husband.

Yeah and he was stationed at Seymour Johnson the last base we were stationed at before retirement in 2011. Ugh!

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[LisaWL7TR]

Congratulations! Love your humor!

Lilibet...my mentor on websleuths!

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[slowpoke]

Since no new progress in the investigation has come to light, I went back to checking out her weibo posts. I have stated before that I was of the belief that their marriage may be a green card marriage.

This is a link to an entry of hers from her weibo, but it is written in Chinese. Reading the translation of it, it just feels like it supports this idea.

The date on this is 8/20/14. Our WS poster Claudius (post#275) discovered on the King County courthouse website that they were wed on 10/3/13. Keep that in mind while reading what she's written. She does not mention her being married to a US citizen, doesn't mention how she got her green card, but cryptically says "Emigrated to the US is not difficult, really difficult, as long as you start to change the traditional thinking of the kind of immigration immigrants together to find their own way". Does that make you go, "Hmmmm.." like it did me?

I post this not because it's fun to gossip, but to again help figure out why we are getting weird vibes from this case...The lack of contact between her and JR during her trip. Why he "let" her go on this trip. Why reactions from JR seem odd.

All JMO and thoughts.

Here's the original link in Chinese:
http://weibo.com/p/1001603745455082188377?mod=zwenzhang

Here is the text, translated into English (no idea what the ravioli reference means! lol How I wish we had someone on this thread who can translate Chinese for us!)

US immigration really so difficult?
At 01:32 on August 20, 2014 read 172
If the thought of his going to the United States, not a tourist, but living in the United States and get a green card, and then became a US citizen, do these procedures are so difficult? Before I came to America, I would think, emigrated to the US, requires a lot of money, very good English, have a skill, but also to take care of someone, the way that you can achieve it? Just look at immigration requirements and procedures set out clear USCIS website, you can put me expel immigrant American dream of ravioli with meat so as chaos ah. However, since 2012, my first time to play the United States two months later, I found, in fact, is not so difficult to emigrate to America. A few months ago, when I know that through the green card interview, when I face my lawyer said:. "In fact, very easy to emigrate to America" ​​kevin replied: "Look at the situation right, that simple is simple, that is difficult In fact, really hard. "

Now I've been in the United States, has been a green card, I have a number of successful immigrants to the United States of Chinese friends, we came to the United States through a variety of ways. My idea is for US immigration: In fact, the most difficult it off is not money, not language, not a skill, not a relationship, but your courage with positive thoughts.

Emigrated to the US is not difficult, really difficult, as long as you start to change the traditional thinking of the kind of immigration immigrants together to find their own way, in fact, everyone wanted to come to the United States desire to live one day can be achieved.

In the end how many immigrants method? How to find their own way?

So I save enough 500 forwards, it tells me the average person (not a millionaire, language is not outstanding, but not IQ superb) US Immigration Information can also be achieved.

 

[Lilibet]

Since no new progress in the investigation has come to light, I went back to checking out her weibo posts. I have stated before that I was of the belief that their marriage may be a green card marriage.

This is a link to an entry of hers from her weibo, but it is written in Chinese. Reading the translation of it, it just feels like it supports this idea.

The date on this is 8/20/14. Our WS poster Claudius (post#275) discovered on the King County courthouse website that they were wed on 10/3/13. Keep that in mind while reading what she's written. She does not mention her being married to a US citizen, doesn't mention how she got her green card, but cryptically says "Emigrated to the US is not difficult, really difficult, as long as you start to change the traditional thinking of the kind of immigration immigrants together to find their own way". Does that make you go, "Hmmmm.." like it did me?

I post this not because it's fun to gossip, but to again help figure out why we are getting weird vibes from this case...The lack of contact between her and JR during her trip. Why he "let" her go on this trip. Why reactions from JR seem odd.

All JMO and thoughts.

Here's the original link in Chinese:
http://weibo.com/p/1001603745455082188377?mod=zwenzhang

Here is the text, translated into English (no idea what the ravioli reference means! lol How I wish we had someone on this thread who can translate Chinese for us!)

US immigration really so difficult?
At 01:32 on August 20, 2014 read 172
If the thought of his going to the United States, not a tourist, but living in the United States and get a green card, and then became a US citizen, do these procedures are so difficult? Before I came to America, I would think, emigrated to the US, requires a lot of money, very good English, have a skill, but also to take care of someone, the way that you can achieve it? Just look at immigration requirements and procedures set out clear USCIS website, you can put me expel immigrant American dream of ravioli with meat so as chaos ah. However, since 2012, my first time to play the United States two months later, I found, in fact, is not so difficult to emigrate to America. A few months ago, when I know that through the green card interview, when I face my lawyer said:. "In fact, very easy to emigrate to America" ​​kevin replied: "Look at the situation right, that simple is simple, that is difficult In fact, really hard. "

Now I've been in the United States, has been a green card, I have a number of successful immigrants to the United States of Chinese friends, we came to the United States through a variety of ways. My idea is for US immigration: In fact, the most difficult it off is not money, not language, not a skill, not a relationship, but your courage with positive thoughts.

Emigrated to the US is not difficult, really difficult, as long as you start to change the traditional thinking of the kind of immigration immigrants together to find their own way, in fact, everyone wanted to come to the United States desire to live one day can be achieved.

In the end how many immigrants method? How to find their own way?

So I save enough 500 forwards, it tells me the average person (not a millionaire, language is not outstanding, but not IQ superb) US Immigration Information can also be achieved.

This is so interesting. Thanks for posting it. I think the translation quirks make it a little tricky to discern what she means. What I'm getting from it is that even though the immigration rules make it seem very difficult, with a positive attitude anyone can do it. They may use different methods from someone else, but if they want to come here they can. In Jenny's case, I think it's pretty clear that JR was her ticket. Marrying him was her method. I'm unclear whether they married both in China and in WA. JR very briefly posted their wedding photos on FB and he was wearing a red brocade Chinese style jacket.

I agree that their marriage is quite unconventional and if it really was a green card marriage, it explains a lot, before during and after her trip. It would be hard to go all out financially to search for someone you didn't have much of a bond with.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Here are some book reviews which seem to be written by Jenny, you'll have to translate the page it's China's version of Amazon:

https://www.douban.com/people/43039629/reviews?cat_id=1001

I haven't read all of it. I found it searching in Google under her Weibo screenname.

just saw this:

Review of the book: Love

猜猜我有多爱你 jennycqd 评论 《猜猜我有多爱你》

This book made me laugh. I think the little bunny is so cute, as cute as just me(any doubts about how cute I am ?). The story remind me of the game J and me were played. I always ask him : do you know how much I love u? my love for you just like the distance between my school and your apartment. Then he will say: well , my love for you is as heavy as my weight. " "Anyways, My love for you is even bigger, heavier, longer than your love for me", I said. And I will always continue , " you know , I love you all the way from China to USA."
He will answer: That's ture honey. Thank for your lovely love.
See! I am the little bunny.

This was written on January 7, 2013, just prior to their October wedding.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Since no new progress in the investigation has come to light, I went back to checking out her weibo posts. I have stated before that I was of the belief that their marriage may be a green card marriage.

This is a link to an entry of hers from her weibo, but it is written in Chinese. Reading the translation of it, it just feels like it supports this idea.

The date on this is 8/20/14. Our WS poster Claudius (post#275) discovered on the King County courthouse website that they were wed on 10/3/13. Keep that in mind while reading what she's written. She does not mention her being married to a US citizen, doesn't mention how she got her green card, but cryptically says "Emigrated to the US is not difficult, really difficult, as long as you start to change the traditional thinking of the kind of immigration immigrants together to find their own way". Does that make you go, "Hmmmm.." like it did me?

I post this not because it's fun to gossip, but to again help figure out why we are getting weird vibes from this case...The lack of contact between her and JR during her trip. Why he "let" her go on this trip. Why reactions from JR seem odd.

All JMO and thoughts.

Here's the original link in Chinese:
http://weibo.com/p/1001603745455082188377?mod=zwenzhang

Here is the text, translated into English (no idea what the ravioli reference means! lol How I wish we had someone on this thread who can translate Chinese for us!)

US immigration really so difficult?
At 01:32 on August 20, 2014 read 172
If the thought of his going to the United States, not a tourist, but living in the United States and get a green card, and then became a US citizen, do these procedures are so difficult? Before I came to America, I would think, emigrated to the US, requires a lot of money, very good English, have a skill, but also to take care of someone, the way that you can achieve it? Just look at immigration requirements and procedures set out clear USCIS website, you can put me expel immigrant American dream of ravioli with meat so as chaos ah. However, since 2012, my first time to play the United States two months later, I found, in fact, is not so difficult to emigrate to America. A few months ago, when I know that through the green card interview, when I face my lawyer said:. "In fact, very easy to emigrate to America" ​​kevin replied: "Look at the situation right, that simple is simple, that is difficult In fact, really hard. "

Now I've been in the United States, has been a green card, I have a number of successful immigrants to the United States of Chinese friends, we came to the United States through a variety of ways. My idea is for US immigration: In fact, the most difficult it off is not money, not language, not a skill, not a relationship, but your courage with positive thoughts.

Emigrated to the US is not difficult, really difficult, as long as you start to change the traditional thinking of the kind of immigration immigrants together to find their own way, in fact, everyone wanted to come to the United States desire to live one day can be achieved.

In the end how many immigrants method? How to find their own way?

So I save enough 500 forwards, it tells me the average person (not a millionaire, language is not outstanding, but not IQ superb) US Immigration Information can also be achieved.

Someone help me with the "ravioli with meat" reference?! : )
Ravioli aside, I don't see her commentary there as too off kilter. I think she is just saying getting a green card was alot easier than she thought it would be, despite whatever perceived deficiencies she thought she had.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Here are some book reviews which seem to be written by Jenny, you'll have to translate the page it's China's version of Amazon:

https://www.douban.com/people/43039629/reviews?cat_id=1001

I haven't read all of it. I found it searching in Google under her Weibo screenname.

just saw this:

Review of the book: Love

猜猜我有多爱你 jennycqd 评论 《猜猜我有多爱你》

This book made me laugh. I think the little bunny is so cute, as cute as just me(any doubts about how cute I am ?). The story remind me of the game J and me were played. I always ask him : do you know how much I love u? my love for you just like the distance between my school and your apartment. Then he will say: well , my love for you is as heavy as my weight. " "Anyways, My love for you is even bigger, heavier, longer than your love for me", I said. And I will always continue , " you know , I love you all the way from China to USA."
He will answer: That's ture honey. Thank for your lovely love.
See! I am the little bunny.

This was written on January 7, 2013, just prior to their October wedding.

Very sweet. I pray these two little love bunnies will reunite. That little girl picked a bad place to go adventuring.

 

[moonriverfarm]

I still smell a rat-on-a-stick.

 

[LisaWL7TR]

I still smell a rat-on-a-stick.

or a Bunnie!

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[slowpoke]

Here are some book reviews which seem to be written by Jenny, you'll have to translate the page it's China's version of Amazon:

https://www.douban.com/people/43039629/reviews?cat_id=1001

I haven't read all of it. I found it searching in Google under her Weibo screenname.

just saw this:

Review of the book: Love

猜猜我有多爱你 jennycqd 评论 《猜猜我有多爱你》

This book made me laugh. I think the little bunny is so cute, as cute as just me(any doubts about how cute I am ?). The story remind me of the game J and me were played. I always ask him : do you know how much I love u? my love for you just like the distance between my school and your apartment. Then he will say: well , my love for you is as heavy as my weight. " "Anyways, My love for you is even bigger, heavier, longer than your love for me", I said. And I will always continue , " you know , I love you all the way from China to USA."
He will answer: That's ture honey. Thank for your lovely love.
See! I am the little bunny.

This was written on January 7, 2013, just prior to their October wedding.

Well, I guess that puts a dent into my theory!!
Lol!
Thanks for finding that.

 

[DexterMorgan]

It seems like once the word got out that the embassy and police were only talking to Jennys family; Is when Jonathan knew he was running out of go fund me time. Jmo.

He tried to control the entire story while supposedly the only one looking.

And was very mad when he saw Jennys family with boots on the ground and talking to people that didn't want to be bothered with his shenanigans. Jmo

 

[x_files]

Since no new progress in the investigation has come to light, I went back to checking out her weibo posts. I have stated before that I was of the belief that their marriage may be a green card marriage.

This is a link to an entry of hers from her weibo, but it is written in Chinese. Reading the translation of it, it just feels like it supports this idea.

The date on this is 8/20/14. Our WS poster Claudius (post#275) discovered on the King County courthouse website that they were wed on 10/3/13. Keep that in mind while reading what she's written. She does not mention her being married to a US citizen, doesn't mention how she got her green card, but cryptically says "Emigrated to the US is not difficult, really difficult, as long as you start to change the traditional thinking of the kind of immigration immigrants together to find their own way". Does that make you go, "Hmmmm.." like it did me?

I post this not because it's fun to gossip, but to again help figure out why we are getting weird vibes from this case...The lack of contact between her and JR during her trip. Why he "let" her go on this trip. Why reactions from JR seem odd.

All JMO and thoughts.

Here's the original link in Chinese:
http://weibo.com/p/1001603745455082188377?mod=zwenzhang

Here is the text, translated into English (no idea what the ravioli reference means! lol How I wish we had someone on this thread who can translate Chinese for us!)

US immigration really so difficult?
At 01:32 on August 20, 2014 read 172
If the thought of his going to the United States, not a tourist, but living in the United States and get a green card, and then became a US citizen, do these procedures are so difficult? Before I came to America, I would think, emigrated to the US, requires a lot of money, very good English, have a skill, but also to take care of someone, the way that you can achieve it? Just look at immigration requirements and procedures set out clear USCIS website, you can put me expel immigrant American dream of ravioli with meat so as chaos ah. However, since 2012, my first time to play the United States two months later, I found, in fact, is not so difficult to emigrate to America. A few months ago, when I know that through the green card interview, when I face my lawyer said:. "In fact, very easy to emigrate to America" ​​kevin replied: "Look at the situation right, that simple is simple, that is difficult In fact, really hard. "

Now I've been in the United States, has been a green card, I have a number of successful immigrants to the United States of Chinese friends, we came to the United States through a variety of ways. My idea is for US immigration: In fact, the most difficult it off is not money, not language, not a skill, not a relationship, but your courage with positive thoughts.

Emigrated to the US is not difficult, really difficult, as long as you start to change the traditional thinking of the kind of immigration immigrants together to find their own way, in fact, everyone wanted to come to the United States desire to live one day can be achieved.

In the end how many immigrants method? How to find their own way?

So I save enough 500 forwards, it tells me the average person (not a millionaire, language is not outstanding, but not IQ superb) US Immigration Information can also be achieved.

I know a guy who goes to Europe and takes $ from women to marry for a green card. It's a business deal he's done it now three times, he has been reported but gets away with it.
It's a money making racket. Not sure if there's was a business deal or not though but that post doesn't sound very romantic!

 

[NL007]

This is so interesting. Thanks for posting it. I think the translation quirks make it a little tricky to discern what she means. What I'm getting from it is that even though the immigration rules make it seem very difficult, with a positive attitude anyone can do it. They may use different methods from someone else, but if they want to come here they can. In Jenny's case, I think it's pretty clear that JR was her ticket. Marrying him was her method. I'm unclear whether they married both in China and in WA. JR very briefly posted their wedding photos on FB and he was wearing a red brocade Chinese style jacket.

I agree that their marriage is quite unconventional and if it really was a green card marriage, it explains a lot, before during and after her trip. It would be hard to go all out financially to search for someone you didn't have much of a bond with.

BBM
I suggest a translation thread where people can post clues in other languages so the bilinguals among us can volunteer to translate it accurately.

I am halfway bilingual, so I like to play with Facebook's translate feature. I press "translate" and frequently I am in tears reading what the translator says the sentence said. They are extremely off most of the time.

My guess would be the ravioli is a mistake. Perhaps it is the word for any type of pasta and there is a Chinese saying about having lots of noodles, which means you're successful or something?? Idk lol

 

[Claudius]

I agree, NL007. I was reading another Chinese forum about this, that JerseyGirl had posted a while back. The users (I used Google translate) kept typing the phrase "50 cents" when commenting on JR's page. I assume it means BS.

My friends and I used to write each other emails, but first we'd send them thru a translate program to another language. It's a fun read when you translate them back to English!

 

[Satchie]

The character being mistranslated by google is 馄饨, means wonton. She's talking about how the list of immigration requirements on the US website deflated her dream of immigrating, like a wonton without the meat.

 

[DexterMorgan]

JR is now saying that Jennys case is now be handled by a Special Elite Task Force. Okaaaay.

The president of Mexico also confirmed that he will personally search for the driver and Jenny and sue Corona on Jonathans behalf by any means necessary. Lol

<mod snip>

 

[Claudius]

JR is now saying that Jennys case is now be handled by a Special Elite Task Force. Okaaaay.

The president of Mexico also confirmed that he will personally search for the driver and Jenny and sue Corona on Jonathans behalf by any means necessary. Lol

<mod snip>

A "Special Elite Task Force" sounds like the Mexicans are being sarcastic. Are they messing with him? :thinking: