Mexico - Shanquella Robinson, 25, American, Beaten to death in apparent “femicide”, San Jose del Cabo, 28 Oct 2022

  • #281
Yesterday in the interview with I believe it was the lawyer, she said they were going to push on and make their own way to Justice. I agree that they should keep trying! So I guess my questions are, does anyone have any knowledge on how that might happen? My thoughts were that they would have to get Mexico to cooperate somehow right? What if one of the people there admitted something? This is hypothetical but say someone has more video evidence, if they turned that in would the US be able to do anything? It seems like they are mostly pushing it off on Mexico.
Yeah I would like some clarification the Mexico aspect of things. I thought they were trying to extradite someone from the US as part of their investigation but weren't having any luck. Is the US able to help with that effort? I would assume so...
 
  • #282
Things that make you go hmm :

-College graduates sharing the video to a college campus that they went to, yet they are in their 30’s?

-It was noted by the concierge that when he saw Shanquella, she had an injury on her head

-DJ’s mothers vacationed in that Villa

- Who was the person (one of them asking “who are you?”) to the concierge, at the Villa ? Apparently Shanquella arrived to Villa with a male before anyone else.

-Her death was classified as violent by the Mexican coroner but we are supposed to disregard the assessment by those who examined a fresh body…. Vs the US one who exhumed a body and performed an autopsy 6 months later????

-The funeral home told the parents that Shanquella looked like she had been beaten badly

-If the Cabo 6 is not guilty, then why are they acting like it? So much that the parents did not buy their stories.

-Her “best friend” Khalil that knew the family well and for YEARS! Like go on family trips close… has been silent, has not seen the family or talked to them since the info came out. He didn’t even help her when she was being beaten. Or had “alcohol poisoning” apparently
 
  • #283
“The hematoma is consistent with blunt force trauma.”

Ummm…. How do they think this happened? Oh, she could have fallen and hit her head.
They didn’t see the video? Unbelievable.
Hypoxic-ischemic brain injury (inadequate blood flow/oxygenation of the brain)

You copied part of my post about the autopsy and made the above comment. The hematoma isn't related to the
lack of blood flow to the brain which caused brain injury. The autopsy mentions quite a few minor injuries all over the body but doesn't offer opinions on how they got there. I don't think it is possible for a forensic pathologist to watch that specific video and then match up the injuries to specific acts seen in the video. MOO
 
  • #284
-Her death was classified as violent by the Mexican coroner but we are supposed to disregard the assessment by those who examined a fresh body…. Vs the US one who exhumed a body and performed an autopsy 6 months later????
This is incorrect, the U.S. autopsy was performed on 11/27/2022. SR died on 10/28/2022 and was embalmed after the Mexico autopsy. The "violent" death was supposedly based on the findings of the spine. There were no spinal fractures found in the U.S. autopsy. MOO
-It was noted by the concierge that when he saw Shanquella, she had an injury on her head
The forehead hematoma is described on the U.S. autopsy report. Hematoma is like a bruise with a broken vessel bleeding into the area, maybe causing swelling. For example, The doctor said I had a golf ball hematoma, not a goose egg, when I got nailed in the forehead by a baseball.
 
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  • #285
Yesterday in the interview with I believe it was the lawyer, she said they were going to push on and make their own way to Justice. I agree that they should keep trying! So I guess my questions are, does anyone have any knowledge on how that might happen?
I think they will be continuing with political pressure, one possibility would be some new law that allows federal prosecution of nationals committing crimes, not just murder, against other nationals while out of the country.

One way around this would be to file a civil suit and force people to give depositions. I don't know about attorneys going this expensive route when there is no monetary compensation possible, all the expenses would be out of pocket. Getting a judgment that will never be paid is not realistic sometimes. I don't think anything less than a possible murder charge will make a difference, there would have to be a federal law for a lesser crime. Did the "friends" actually conspire to commit a crime while they were still in their home state? I think that would be hard to prove without some confessions.

This case reminds me of several others where there are known uncooperative witnesses, including "friends" that frustrate and thwart the families and LE from finding out what actually happened. At least there is a video of the assault that led to a chain of events resulting in SR's death. And, even if the results of the U.S. autopsy are not going to result in a prosecution, the family has more answers than some. For instance, in the case of Heidi Planck, a number of people apparently watched her die of a drug overdose and covered up her death by putting her in a garbage chute so that her body was taken to a landfill and never found. Despite her having been at a "party", none of the cowards will come forward and tell the truth.

It's confusing as to what Mexico's level of interest is in prosecuting the person that attacked SR in the video and the person that filmed the assault. The conflicting autopsies might cause a problem if they are prosecuted for murder.
 
  • #286
Those involved should spend time in a Mexican jail.

It is not surprising that the US has chosen not to file charges. Unless there is unknown evidence to the contrary, no part of this crime occurred in the US. There is no evidence this was planned in the US. Unless one of the "friends" turns on the others, we may never know what happened.
 
  • #287
I think they will be continuing with political pressure, one possibility would be some new law that allows federal prosecution of nationals committing crimes, not just murder, against other nationals while out of the country.

One way around this would be to file a civil suit and force people to give depositions. I don't know about attorneys going this expensive route when there is no monetary compensation possible, all the expenses would be out of pocket. Getting a judgment that will never be paid is not realistic sometimes. I don't think anything less than a possible murder charge will make a difference, there would have to be a federal law for a lesser crime. Did the "friends" actually conspire to commit a crime while they were still in their home state? I think that would be hard to prove without some confessions.

This case reminds me of several others where there are known uncooperative witnesses, including "friends" that frustrate and thwart the families and LE from finding out what actually happened. At least there is a video of the assault that led to a chain of events resulting in SR's death. And, even if the results of the U.S. autopsy are not going to result in a prosecution, the family has more answers than some. For instance, in the case of Heidi Planck, a number of people apparently watched her die of a drug overdose and covered up her death by putting her in a garbage chute so that her body was taken to a landfill and never found. Despite her having been at a "party", none of the cowards will come forward and tell the truth.

It's confusing as to what Mexico's level of interest is in prosecuting the person that attacked SR in the video and the person that filmed the assault. The conflicting autopsies might cause a problem if they are prosecuted for murder.
BBM they have that. q anon dad was charged w it.
 
  • #288
BBM they have that. q anon dad was charged w it.
He was charged with murder, an existing federal code, my post states new federal laws, for "not just murder". That is what the issue is. I'm not seeing any federal codes for other crimes for nationals against nationals, out of country.
 
  • #289
He was charged with murder, an existing federal code, my post states new federal laws, for "not just murder". That is what the issue is. I'm not seeing any federal codes for other crimes for nationals against nationals, out of country.
i dont know the exact code, but i believe the code was a US citizen killing US citizens on foreign soil. that is what i was referring to. if they would get the evidence, this crime would fall under the same umbrella.
 
  • #290
i dont know the exact code, but i believe the code was a US citizen killing US citizens on foreign soil. that is what i was referring to. if they would get the evidence, this crime would fall under the same umbrella.

My post was regarding the federal code, the only code that has the authority, only applies to the murder of a U.S. national by another U.S. national. A new law would be needed to prosecute for example, an assault, outside the country. The federal prosecutor has already declined to prosecute anyone for murder under this code for the case of SR. If there is another federal code for lesser crimes than murder, I cannot locate it. This was in response to a question of what can the attorneys working for SR's family do about the situation after the refusal to prosecute for murder.​

It was not a question of whether or not the code or law exists or if a federal murder case can be prosecuted ever.​

United States Code

SuDoc Class Number​

Y 1.2/5:

Contained Within​

Title 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 51 - HOMICIDE
Sec. 1119 - Foreign murder of United States nationals

Contains​

section 1119

Date​

2021

Laws In Effect As Of Date​

January 3, 2022
 
  • #291
Robinson’s family had reached out to federal agencies and the White House in March, asking for “immediate diplomatic intervention” in what they termed a “transnational criminal case.”

Robinson, 25, was traveling with a group of six people when she was killed at a luxury villa in San Jose del Cabo, Mexico. Her body was found on Oct. 29. A cell phone video recorded at the villa appears to show a violent fight between Robinson and another woman. An autopsy noted Robinson’s cause of death was a broken neck, according to the letter Robison’s family sent to the White House.
 
  • #292
i dont know the exact code, but i believe the code was a US citizen killing US citizens on foreign soil. that is what i was referring to. if they would get the evidence, this crime would fall under the same umbrella.
I agree. I personally think US prosecutors have decided there isn't strong enough evidence to successfully prosecute. They won't go to trial unless they believe they have a good chance of winning a conviction. This way, if new evidence emerges (like a confession) they can still prosecute. Whereas, if the person goes to trial and is found not guilty, they can't be tried a second time.

As regards the arrest warrant and 'request by Mexico to extradite', which was mentioned once by the Baja official, it was never mentioned again (though much speculated on in media). Possibly, if an individual was so foolish as to go back to Mexico, they might be arrested, but IMO an agreement was probably made that the US would handle it, since these were American citizens back on American soil, US constitution and all that jazz.

Perhaps Mexican authorities wanted to convey the message: don't think, just because you've come over the border, you can get away with crime.

JMO
 
  • #293
I think they will be continuing with political pressure, one possibility would be some new law that allows federal prosecution of nationals committing crimes, not just murder, against other nationals while out of the country.

One way around this would be to file a civil suit and force people to give depositions. I don't know about attorneys going this expensive route when there is no monetary compensation possible, all the expenses would be out of pocket. Getting a judgment that will never be paid is not realistic sometimes. I don't think anything less than a possible murder charge will make a difference, there would have to be a federal law for a lesser crime. Did the "friends" actually conspire to commit a crime while they were still in their home state? I think that would be hard to prove without some confessions.

This case reminds me of several others where there are known uncooperative witnesses, including "friends" that frustrate and thwart the families and LE from finding out what actually happened. At least there is a video of the assault that led to a chain of events resulting in SR's death. And, even if the results of the U.S. autopsy are not going to result in a prosecution, the family has more answers than some. For instance, in the case of Heidi Planck, a number of people apparently watched her die of a drug overdose and covered up her death by putting her in a garbage chute so that her body was taken to a landfill and never found. Despite her having been at a "party", none of the cowards will come forward and tell the truth.

It's confusing as to what Mexico's level of interest is in prosecuting the person that attacked SR in the video and the person that filmed the assault. The conflicting autopsies might cause a problem if they are prosecuted for murder.
All of that is rumor.
 
  • #294
All of that is rumor.
It's my opinion and a reply to "how attorneys would push on for justice for SR". What part is a rumor? All of it is rumors?
 
  • #295
  • #296
It's my opinion and a reply to "how attorneys would push on for justice for SR". What part is a rumor? All of it is rumors?
I did not write it, but I believe @Frodosdojo bolded a portion of your post and is referring to the bold section as a rumor. Jmo
 
  • #297
So at this point it seems like the only justice Shanquella will get is social justice? People need to know who these 6 are and be aware of what they might have possibly done. This was not just a oops friend died situation. The video seems to point to multiple people beating a person who was not defending themselves while others just watched, recorded and then hid evidence and not just random people, one was her best friend and the others were people who closely knew her. That is another level of evil and would for sure not be anyone I would trust around my family. All just my opinion.
 
  • #298
All of that is rumor.
Mentioning the Planck case was to show another case with people who refused to cooperate and give the family and LE information. The forensic evidence and search warrant for the landfill are facts, they show what happened to her body. The drug and party part was "apparently" but is not just rumors.
 
  • #299
So at this point it seems like the only justice Shanquella will get is social justice? People need to know who these 6 are and be aware of what they might have possibly done. This was not just a oops friend died situation. The video seems to point to multiple people beating a person who was not defending themselves while others just watched, recorded and then hid evidence and not just random people, one was her best friend and the others were people who closely knew her. That is another level of evil and would for sure not be anyone I would trust around my family. All just my opinion.

I saw only one person attack her. I see no proof anyone else did or were involved, except that they didn't try to stop it in the few seconds of video available.
 
  • #300
Well. She was attacked. At least one person stood by. At least 2 cases right there to prosecute.
 

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