MI - 14 men charged in plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, Oct 2020 *8 guilty, 5 NG*

[MrsWatson]

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No verdict yet, but jurors in the Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer kidnap trial have sent a question to the judge. “Can we get a legal description of a “weapon.”

also: judge gives the definition, says he hopes it helps. Encourages them to knock off for the day and watch the NCAA playoffs and start fresh tomorrow.

 

[MrsWatson]

Jury deliberations underway in Michigan Gov. Whitmer plot

Jonker last week told jurors that the men could be convicted of conspiracy, even if a kidnapping did not occur in fall 2020.

A key factor, if the jury finds it, would be a “mutual understanding either spoken or unspoken” between two or more people in the group, the judge said.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Jury in Whitmer kidnap plot trial has a question: 'What's a weapon?'

 

[Niner]

Tuesday, April 5th:
*Trial continues (Day 16)-VERDICT WATCH! (Day 2) (Federal case) (@ 8:30am CT) - MI – Plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer - *Adam Dean Fox (38/now 39) (born 1983) of Grand Rapids, *Barry Gordon Croft, Jr. (44/now 45) (no birth date given) from Bear, Delaware (waiting to be extradited to MI), *Daniel Joseph Harris (23/now 24) (born 1997) of Lake Orion & *Brandon Michael-Ray Caserta (32/now 33) (born 1988) of Canton arrested & charged (10/8/20) & indicted (12/17/20) with conspiracy to commit kidnapping. All charged with a federal crime. All are being held without bond. All plead not guilty (12/17/20).
*Adam Dean Fox additional charges (4/28/21) with knowingly conspiring to use weapons of mass destruction against persons or property in addition to the kidnapping conspiracy charged in October 2020. The superseding indictment further alleges that Fox, Croft & Harris intended to use the devices to destroy a nearby bridge, in effect, harming & hindering the governor’s security detail and any responding law enforcement officers.
*Barry Gordon Croft, Jr. additional charges (4/28/21) with knowingly conspiring to use weapons of mass destruction against persons or property in addition to the kidnapping conspiracy charged in October 2020. The superseding indictment further alleges that Fox, Croft & Harris intended to use the devices to destroy a nearby bridge, in effect, harming & hindering the governor’s security detail & any responding law enforcement officers & superseding indictment also alleges that on Sept. 13, 2020 in Lake County, Michigan, Croft & Harris knowingly possessed a destructive device that was not registered to them in the National Firearms Registration & Transfer Record as required by federal law.
*Daniel Joseph Harris additional charges (4/28/21) with knowingly conspiring to use weapons of mass destruction against persons or property in addition to the kidnapping conspiracy charged in October 2020. The superseding indictment further alleges that Fox, Croft & Harris intended to use the devices to destroy a nearby bridge, in effect, harming & hindering the governor’s security detail & any responding law enforcement officers & superseding indictment also alleges that on Sept. 13, 2020 in Lake County, Michigan, Croft & Harris knowingly possessed a destructive device that was not registered to them in the National Firearms Registration & Transfer Record as required by federal law. Harris is alleged to have possessed, between July 10, 2020 & Sept. 13, 2020, an Anderson Manufacturing, Model AM-15, .223/5.56 mm caliber semiautomatic assault rifle with a barrel of less than 16 inches in length that was not registered to him.
Trial began on 3/8/22 with jury selection & trial began on 3/9/22. (expected to last 4-5 weeks). 12 jurors & 6 alternates. 3/17/22: 1 juror missing (out sick), replaced by alternate. 12 Jurors & 5 alternates. The trial was interrupted due to COVID from 3/11 to 3/16/22.
Criminal Complaint & court info from 10/9/20 thru 3/13/22 & Jury Selection Day 1 (3/8/22) & Trial Days 1-4 (Week 1) (3/9 to 3/10 & 3/17 to 3/18/22), Trial Days 5-9 (Week 2) (3/21 to 3/25/22), Trial Days 10-14 (Week 3) (3/28 to 4/1/22) reference post #520 here:
VERDICT WATCH - MI - 14 men charged in plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, Oct 2020 *2 guilty*
4/4/22 Monday, Trial Day 15/Deliberations Day 1: Jury started deliberations. After 7 hours of deliberations, the jury emerged from the deliberation room with a question: What's a weapon? The jury appears to be hung up on the weapons of mass destruction charge — which three defendants are facing — and possession of an unregistered destructive device, which two defendants are facing. U.S. District Judge Robert Jonker explained to the jury at about 3pm that a weapon is anything that can be used to "destroy, injure or kill someone or something, as opposed to something you would use for fun." The judge told the jury this could apply very broadly, from a fist to a chair, to a weapon of mass destruction, which the government alleges in this case. The jury was dismissed at 4:30pm Monday with no verdict reached. Deliberations resume Tuesday, 4/5/22 at 8:30am.
for more info see post #523 here:
VERDICT WATCH - MI - 14 men charged in plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, Oct 2020 *2 guilty*
*Ty Gerard Garbin (24) - plead guilty (1/27/21) to kidnapping conspiracy & was sentenced (8/25/21) to 6 years & 3 months in Federal prison. Garbin will testify at the trial of the other defendants. Lengthy testimony & repeated debriefings have been critical in building a case to counter defense arguments that revolve around free speech issues as well as accusations of entrapment by federal undercover informants, Nils R. Kessler, the lead U.S. attorney on the case.
Kaleb James Franks (26) – Plead guilty (2/7/22) to kidnapping conspiracy. Will testify at trial & will be sentencing afterwards.
(State: for Antrim County on 4/14/21 & Jackson County on 8/8/22 & trial starts 9/12/22).

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Jury in Michigan Gov. Whitmer plot deliberating for 2nd day | Ap-top-news | wfmz.com

A judge has rejected a request for trial transcripts as jurors return for a second day of deliberations in the case of four men accused of conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (AP) — A judge rejected a request for trial transcripts Tuesday as jurors returned for a second day of deliberations in the case of four men accused of conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

U.S. District Judge Robert Jonker said there is a practical reason: Transcripts of testimony aren't available yet. But even if they were, he added, the jury shouldn't have them.

“You have to do your best as a group to recall, remember,” Jonker said...

JMO, but I have a feeling that this trial will end with a hung jury.

 

[ilovewings]

Jury in Michigan Gov. Whitmer plot deliberating for 2nd day | Ap-top-news | wfmz.com

A judge has rejected a request for trial transcripts as jurors return for a second day of deliberations in the case of four men accused of conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (AP) — A judge rejected a request for trial transcripts Tuesday as jurors returned for a second day of deliberations in the case of four men accused of conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

U.S. District Judge Robert Jonker said there is a practical reason: Transcripts of testimony aren't available yet. But even if they were, he added, the jury shouldn't have them.

“You have to do your best as a group to recall, remember,” Jonker said...

JMO, but I have a feeling that this trial will end with a hung jury.

For me this is a slam dunk gullty verdict!!!

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

WDIV 5:00PM report: Jury has gone home for the day. No verdict. Deliberations resume tomorrow morning at 8:30.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Trial scheduled for Jackson County men accused in Whitmer kidnapping plot

A jury trial for Joseph Morrison, Pete Musico and Paul Bellar is scheduled to begin on Monday, Sept. 12. Jackson County Circuit Judge Thomas Wilson previously predicted the trial could last at least two weeks.

@Niner

 

[Niner]

Wednesday, April 6th:
*Trial continues (Day 17)-VERDICT WATCH! (Day 3) (Federal case) (@ 8:30am CT) - MI – Plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer - *Adam Dean Fox (38/now 39) (born 1983) of Grand Rapids, *Barry Gordon Croft, Jr. (44/now 45) (no birth date given) from Bear, Delaware (waiting to be extradited to MI), *Daniel Joseph Harris (23/now 24) (born 1997) of Lake Orion & *Brandon Michael-Ray Caserta (32/now 33) (born 1988) of Canton arrested & charged (10/8/20) & indicted (12/17/20) with conspiracy to commit kidnapping. All charged with a federal crime. All are being held without bond. All plead not guilty (12/17/20).
*Adam Dean Fox additional charges (4/28/21) with knowingly conspiring to use weapons of mass destruction against persons or property in addition to the kidnapping conspiracy charged in October 2020. The superseding indictment further alleges that Fox, Croft & Harris intended to use the devices to destroy a nearby bridge, in effect, harming & hindering the governor’s security detail and any responding law enforcement officers.
*Barry Gordon Croft, Jr. additional charges (4/28/21) with knowingly conspiring to use weapons of mass destruction against persons or property in addition to the kidnapping conspiracy charged in October 2020. The superseding indictment further alleges that Fox, Croft & Harris intended to use the devices to destroy a nearby bridge, in effect, harming & hindering the governor’s security detail & any responding law enforcement officers & superseding indictment also alleges that on Sept. 13, 2020 in Lake County, Michigan, Croft & Harris knowingly possessed a destructive device that was not registered to them in the National Firearms Registration & Transfer Record as required by federal law.
*Daniel Joseph Harris additional charges (4/28/21) with knowingly conspiring to use weapons of mass destruction against persons or property in addition to the kidnapping conspiracy charged in October 2020. The superseding indictment further alleges that Fox, Croft & Harris intended to use the devices to destroy a nearby bridge, in effect, harming & hindering the governor’s security detail & any responding law enforcement officers & superseding indictment also alleges that on Sept. 13, 2020 in Lake County, Michigan, Croft & Harris knowingly possessed a destructive device that was not registered to them in the National Firearms Registration & Transfer Record as required by federal law. Harris is alleged to have possessed, between July 10, 2020 & Sept. 13, 2020, an Anderson Manufacturing, Model AM-15, .223/5.56 mm caliber semiautomatic assault rifle with a barrel of less than 16 inches in length that was not registered to him.
Trial began on 3/8/22 with jury selection & trial began on 3/9/22. (expected to last 4-5 weeks). 12 jurors & 6 alternates. 3/17/22: 1 juror missing (out sick), replaced by alternate. 12 Jurors & 5 alternates. The trial was interrupted due to COVID from 3/11 to 3/16/22. 4/4/22: Jury deliberations ~8 hours. 4/5/22: Deliberations: ~8 hours. Total deliberations: ~16 hours.
Criminal Complaint & court info from 10/9/20 thru 3/13/22 & Jury Selection Day 1 (3/8/22) & Trial Days 1-4 (Week 1) (3/9 to 3/10 & 3/17 to 3/18/22), Trial Days 5-9 (Week 2) (3/21 to 3/25/22), Trial Days 10-15 (Week 3) (3/28 to 4/1/22) & Jury Deliberations Day 1 (4/4/22) reference post #524 here:
VERDICT WATCH - MI - 14 men charged in plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, Oct 2020 *2 guilty*
4/5/22 Tuesday, Trial Day 16/Jury deliberations (Day 2): Jury continued deliberations @ 8:30am. U.S. District Judge Robert Jonker rejected a request for trial transcripts Tuesday as jurors returned for a second day of deliberations. Judge Jonker said there is a practical reason: Transcripts of testimony aren't available yet. But even if they were, he added, the jury shouldn't have them. “You have to do your best as a group to recall, remember,” Jonker said. Jurors left about 5pm. Deliberations resume Wednesday, 4/6/22 at 8:30am.
*Ty Gerard Garbin (24) - plead guilty (1/27/21) to kidnapping conspiracy & was sentenced (8/25/21) to 6 years & 3 months in Federal prison. Garbin will testify at the trial of the other defendants. Lengthy testimony & repeated debriefings have been critical in building a case to counter defense arguments that revolve around free speech issues as well as accusations of entrapment by federal undercover informants, Nils R. Kessler, the lead U.S. attorney on the case.
Kaleb James Franks (26) – Plead guilty (2/7/22) to kidnapping conspiracy. Will testify at trial & will be sentencing afterwards.
(State: for Antrim County on 4/14/21 & Jackson County pretrial hearing on 8/9/22 & trial starts 9/12/22).

 

[margarita25]

Throw away the key!!!! Madmen.

 

[ilovewings]

Throw away the key!!!! Madmen.

Can't figure out why the deliberations should take this long: it makes me nervous ---For me, the case against these "madmen' has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt---actually proven beyond any doubt- but you know how juries are----I still remember Durst was acquitted by a jury after murdering and decapitating a man. So there's that.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

The longer this jury is out the more I fear acquittal or a hung jury. JMO

 

[MrsWatson]

Right there with you all.

I thought this was a pretty straightforward case.

 

[MrsWatson]

Here are the jurors deciding the historic Whitmer kidnap plot case

 

[Seattle1]

Here are the jurors deciding the historic Whitmer kidnap plot case

Wow -- I've followed many trials and don't recall ever reading so much detail about each individual juror before!

 

[Seattle1]

Former federal prosecutors assess Whitmer kidnap plot: Do they agree?

 

[Seattle1]

Why does the thread header read "guilty." Did I miss something here?

 

[MrsWatson]

There were six charged in this case; two pled guilty & testified for the prosecution.

There are also other guys affiliated with this case who are being tried at state level.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

WDIV news at 5:00PM - Jury has gone home for the day. No verdict. Deliberations will continue tomorrow.

 

[MrsWatson]

UGGHHHH! I did not think this would take this long, at all.

Thanks for update, @BetteDavisEyes.