MI MI - Adrienne Quintal, 47, called for help, foul play possible, Honor, Benzie Co., 17 Oct 2019

[elizabeth2679]

I have questions about the dog as well, that maybe someone else can clarify or expound on.

Was the dog heard barking during the alleged call to the friend prior to AQ’s disappearance? IMO Dogs tend to bark when they hear humans or large animals outside their domain.

Did the dog show signs of anxiety or injury?

How did the dog remain inside the home while AQ was nowhere to be found? My dog will follow me outside if I exit in a haste since it leaves opportunity for her to slip out. Could this confirm that AQ exited via roof, where her shoes and phone were found, and not the door?

I have questions about the dog too. Even though we know "mixed breed", do we know what type? Small or large? Just trying to figure out why the dog didn't go out on the roof with her. And either run away or be stuck up there. Mine slips out any opening she can!

Why did she adopt a dog from there and not down state? Why had she been up there just 10 days prior, when she adopted the dog?

Why did she adopt a dog at all?

 

[skydelta3574]

I have questions about the dog too. Even though we know "mixed breed", do we know what type? Small or large? Just trying to figure out why the dog didn't go out on the roof with her. And either run away or be stuck up there. Mine slips out any opening she can!

Why did she adopt a dog from there and not down state? Why had she been up there just 10 days prior, when she adopted the dog?

Why did she adopt a dog at all?

Good question, I hadn’t really thought about that. To me it doesn’t seem too interesting that she adopted a dog. She’s a single woman, why not? But when you consider that she lived in a condo downstate (you can’t always have dogs in a condo) it makes you wonder...

 

[skydelta3574]

How far away is the closest neighbor?

According to her sister’s interview with Brainscratch on YouTube, neighbors were around a quarter mile apart which means she wasn’t staying in the village of Honor, she was on the outskirts.

 

[skydelta3574]

I’m concerned about the allegation that she told the friend on the phone that she shot a man in the face. So much of that doesn’t add up. To begin, how on earth is she getting that precise in the dark? It’s dark out there.

IMO if someone was shot in the face, that’s not a wound you can patch up with a first aid kit. The nearest hospitals to Honor are Paul Oliver in Frankfort which is, I believe, strictly ER now and Munson Medical Center in Traverse City. Either of these emergency rooms would remember seeing someone with a gun shot to the face. We aren’t in an area where there are frequent shootings.

I’m hopeful that the police are exploring everything but I find a lot about the alleged conversation between AQ and the family friend to be wild. All MOO.

 

[rickcross]

I’m concerned about the allegation that she told the friend on the phone that she shot a man in the face. So much of that doesn’t add up. To begin, how on earth is she getting that precise in the dark? It’s dark out there.

IMO if someone was shot in the face, that’s not a wound you can patch up with a first aid kit. The nearest hospitals to Honor are Paul Oliver in Frankfort which is, I believe, strictly ER now and Munson Medical Center in Traverse City. Either of these emergency rooms would remember seeing someone with a gun shot to the face. We aren’t in an area where there are frequent shootings.

I’m hopeful that the police are exploring everything but I find a lot about the alleged conversation between AQ and the family friend to be wild. All MOO.

It was dark outside and all the lights were on in the cabin. The windows would have acted like mirrors and speculation is that she shot at her own reflection.

 

[patcorn]

How far away is the closest neighbor?

Per the John Lordan video, the closest neighbor is about a quarter mile or so away. The homes are pretty spaced out and the area very rural. The sister said that’s why when people are asking if they went knocking door to door, they have to understand that out there it’s impossible.

Good morning all!
Haven’t been on the site in a while.
Good to be back. Saw this case was local and it intrigued me. Very mysterious night for this woman. My in laws live up north here so I can definitely relate to the sister saying it’s pitch black out there. We went for a visit out there to their home and pulled up on the small road leading to their home and we could literally see the porch light but not the house. After taking the baby in, we headed back for our things and you literally couldn’t see our car in the driveway from the porch or your hand in front of your face once you left the porch. We had to use our cell phones flashlight feature to get there and back.
So it’s definitely a different kind of dark at night!

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Authorities say they found multiple bullet holes in the empty cabin and shell casings on the ground outside, but no signs that anyone had been shot or otherwise injured.

Bryson told the Detroit Free Press that she lies awake at night wondering where her 47-year-old sister is.
Family offers $100K for info on missing Michigan woman - Alabama News

Quintal’s family first shared a flyer advertising the original reward of $2,500 on Oct. 23. By Oct. 24, the reward had doubled to $5,000, and then again to $10,000, according to an update by Natalie Quintal who posted the original flyer.

Quintal is a white female with long brown hair and brown eyes. She is about 5-foot, 7-inches tall weighing about 125 pounds. She goes by Ada, officials said.

Anyone who has seen or heard from Quintal should call Benzie County Central Dispatch at 231-882-4487 or Michigan State Police Silent Observer at 1-866-774-2345.
Search around cabin turns up no sign of missing Michigan woman

Quintal’s family first shared a flyer advertising the original reward of $2,500 on Oct. 23. By Oct. 24, the reward had doubled to $5,000, and then again to $10,000, according to an update by Natalie Quintal who posted the original flyer.

Quintal is a white female with long brown hair and brown eyes. She is about 5-foot, 7-inches tall weighing about 125 pounds. She goes by Ada, officials said.

Anyone who has seen or heard from Quintal should call Benzie County Central Dispatch at 231-882-4487 or Michigan State Police Silent Observer at 1-866-774-2345.
Search around cabin turns up no sign of missing Michigan woman

Police use drones, dogs to search for missing woman in Northern Michigan

Michigan woman told friend she’d been in shoot-out with 2 men just before she disappeared

Reward for missing Michigan woman’s whereabouts doubles to $10K

Family ups reward to $100K for info on missing Michigan woman

 

[ardean]

HONOR, MI — A northern Michigan woman was reported missing last month after telling family members that she had been in a shootout with two men. Now family members have raised the reward to $100,000 for information regarding her disappearance.

Family ups reward to $100K for info on missing Michigan woman

Nice size reward puts pressure on anyone who knows something. Hoping for a break in the case soon!

 

[rickcross]

So, she is attacked in the summer. Could she have owed somebody money? Could the attack have been a warning to pay up? She apparently said that she was too scared to return home with Lundy, I wonder if the reason for that was that she knew that her debt hadn't been cleared? All just speculation of course, but could this have motivated her to disappear? She didn't call police herself, she gave the friend the wrong address, and there is absolutely no evidence that anyone else was there. Could she have acquired a vehicle that nobody knew about? So she makes the fake call and simply drives away. And, if Lundy was in on the scheme, it would explain his lack of concern over her disappearance.

Bottom line is that the intruder theory makes no sense based on the evidence. If she was holding intruders at bay with her gun, them outside, her locked inside, why would she not call 911 and hold the bad guys off until they arrived? Crawling outside, where they are makes absolutely no sense. Neither does firing through the windows at noises. If you hear noise in a remote cabin your first thought has to be that its racoons or bears. She had just seen a cougar for god sakes!

Some have speculated that this was a mental episode brought on by drugs or the head injury. My feeling is that if this were the case, she certainly would have been found by now. Also, why would she leave her boots and phone? Great theory, but just too much that doesn't make sense.

Lastly, there is the Lundy theory. He could have driven up there, forced her to make the call, then killed and disposed of her and been back in his bed by the morning, but you would think police would have figured that out by now? I mean if Lundy simply responded to the cougar text, that's pretty much an air tight alibi isn't it? Or is it? Not unreasonable to think that he could have had someone sitting with his phone at home waiting for that text right?

 

[rickcross]

Nice size reward puts pressure on anyone who knows something. Hoping for a break in the case soon!

Very rarely have I ever seen a reward actually get results. Especially when we are taking about potential killers. Is it worth $100 to live the rest of your life looking over your shoulder?

 

[patcorn]

So, she is attacked in the summer. Could she have owed somebody money? Could the attack have been a warning to pay up? She apparently said that she was too scared to return home with Lundy, I wonder if the reason for that was that she knew that her debt hadn't been cleared? All just speculation of course, but could this have motivated her to disappear? She didn't call police herself, she gave the friend the wrong address, and there is absolutely no evidence that anyone else was there. Could she have acquired a vehicle that nobody knew about? So she makes the fake call and simply drives away. And, if Lundy was in on the scheme, it would explain his lack of concern over her disappearance.

Bottom line is that the intruder theory makes no sense based on the evidence. If she was holding intruders at bay with her gun, them outside, her locked inside, why would she not call 911 and hold the bad guys off until they arrived? Crawling outside, where they are makes absolutely no sense. Neither does firing through the windows at noises. If you hear noise in a remote cabin your first thought has to be that its racoons or bears. She had just seen a cougar for god sakes!

Some have speculated that this was a mental episode brought on by drugs or the head injury. My feeling is that if this were the case, she certainly would have been found by now. Also, why would she leave her boots and phone? Great theory, but just too much that doesn't make sense.

Lastly, there is the Lundy theory. He could have driven up there, forced her to make the call, then killed and disposed of her and been back in his bed by the morning, but you would think police would have figured that out by now? I mean if Lundy simply responded to the cougar text, that's pretty much an air tight alibi isn't it? Or is it? Not unreasonable to think that he could have had someone sitting with his phone at home waiting for that text right?

I agree fully with all of the above.

Her case reminds me a lot of the Kayelyn Louder case from a while back as far as the prospect of a mental breakdown. If anyone recalls, Kayelyn Louder was walking her dog around outside of her apartment on video in the rain and then later went back inside only to run back out barefoot. She was missing after that but leading up to her disappearance, she had made multiple calls to 911. One where she claimed there was a wild party and shooting at the clubhouse of the apartment. When police arrived they found someone having a party for a wedding and no incident of fighting or guns. She later called 911 again to say that someone had broken into her apartment and they were taking things. She claimed she could hear these people but during the 911 call, the roommate came in to tell her that no on was there and that the door to the apartment was still locked. She was later found in a body of water in the area with no drugs in her system.


As for the boyfriend, I find his actions very strange. Either he knows or thinks he knows what could have happened or he was involved in some way. Him disappearing for days after she is reported missing is very telling. First this woman gets beat up badly being around him and most women in their 40s aren't out getting into fist fights so I would guess there was an element that was brought on by this man. Then she comes up missing days after this man has booked it back to the condo to 'drop off supplies'. Something definitely fishy there. He was the last one to see her alive. Could they have been into drugs in some way. I know a few addicts and when they binge or fall off the wagon, they usually go away for a few days. This could have played a role in the strange things she was seeing leading up to her disappearance but still wondering why she wasn't found.

I really wish we could hear from this friend of the family and what was really said on that call. Also noted in the gray hughes video on this case, she made a call to Lundy about 50 minutes or so before the alleged shootout. Supposedly she was out walking the dog and came across what she thought was a large cat on the land.

 

[skydelta3574]

It was dark outside and all the lights were on in the cabin. The windows would have acted like mirrors and speculation is that she shot at her own reflection.

But that’s so strange IMO. Quintal has been carrying a concealed weapon for years according to her sister in the Brainscratch interviews. Why would she suddenly act so irrationally with it?

 

[skydelta3574]

I really wish we could hear from this friend of the family and what was really said on that call. Also noted in the gray hughes video on this case, she made a call to Lundy about 50 minutes or so before the alleged shootout. Supposedly she was out walking the dog and came across what she thought was a large cat on the land.

I find that late night walk with the dog kinda strange too. IMO most people aren’t out walking their dog in the middle of the night in the pitch black in the northern woods. It’s just not a safe thing to do, man or woman, because of the wildlife.

 

[skydelta3574]

So, she is attacked in the summer. Could she have owed somebody money? Could the attack have been a warning to pay up? She apparently said that she was too scared to return home with Lundy, I wonder if the reason for that was that she knew that her debt hadn't been cleared? All just speculation of course, but could this have motivated her to disappear? She didn't call police herself, she gave the friend the wrong address, and there is absolutely no evidence that anyone else was there. Could she have acquired a vehicle that nobody knew about? So she makes the fake call and simply drives away. And, if Lundy was in on the scheme, it would explain his lack of concern over her disappearance.

Bottom line is that the intruder theory makes no sense based on the evidence. If she was holding intruders at bay with her gun, them outside, her locked inside, why would she not call 911 and hold the bad guys off until they arrived? Crawling outside, where they are makes absolutely no sense. Neither does firing through the windows at noises. If you hear noise in a remote cabin your first thought has to be that its racoons or bears. She had just seen a cougar for god sakes!

Some have speculated that this was a mental episode brought on by drugs or the head injury. My feeling is that if this were the case, she certainly would have been found by now. Also, why would she leave her boots and phone? Great theory, but just too much that doesn't make sense.

Lastly, there is the Lundy theory. He could have driven up there, forced her to make the call, then killed and disposed of her and been back in his bed by the morning, but you would think police would have figured that out by now? I mean if Lundy simply responded to the cougar text, that's pretty much an air tight alibi isn't it? Or is it? Not unreasonable to think that he could have had someone sitting with his phone at home waiting for that text right?

Is there a source for her fear of returning downstate? Because if so that’s pretty big!

I agree with everything you’re saying here. MOO - if she were having a mental breakdown why wouldn’t she bring the gun that she was supposedly wielding? I understand that mental breakdowns don’t make sense but she was allegedly JUST using her gun and never, according to her sister in interviews, left the house without it. Likewise, why leave the dog? So much here doesn’t add up to leaving voluntarily.

Also, we do have people walk away up here and they’re almost always found in the water or in the woods within a couple of weeks. Granted, she went missing from a pretty desolate area but I can’t think of a recent case where someone up here stayed hidden by their own accord as long as AQ has. The last person that I can think of to have gone missing from here without a trace is Jacob Cabinaw. ALL MOO.

 

[indicolite22]

Lastly, there is the Lundy theory. He could have driven up there, forced her to make the call, then killed and disposed of her and been back in his bed by the morning, but you would think police would have figured that out by now? I mean if Lundy simply responded to the cougar text, that's pretty much an air tight alibi isn't it? Or is it? Not unreasonable to think that he could have had someone sitting with his phone at home waiting for that text right?

If she was forced to make the call, her friend on the other end of the line would have noticed it, since it was a long call. She told the friend to call the police. The wrong address is a red herring, IMO.

 

[skydelta3574]

MOO I’m struggling with the idea that AQ made that phone call at all. IMO the call happened but it wasn’t AQ on the other end. That would explain the mistaken address, the weird, semi-unbelievable late night walk with her dog, the random bullet holes, the gun left behind and AQ being nowhere in sight. IMO if she was scared enough to be shooting up her cabin she would have called 911. But 911 records their calls. This was an intelligent woman from an area where, for lack of better terms, she had to be street smart. IMO she didn’t go missing in the middle of the night, when it would have been dark and difficult to navigate literally anything. IMO she let her guard down and trusted the wrong people and was already gone well before the date of her “disappearance.” Again, MOO.

 

[skydelta3574]

If she was forced to make the call, her friend on the other end of the line would have noticed it, since it was a long call. She told the friend to call the police. The wrong address is a red herring, IMO.

The family friend relayed to authorities, according to AQ’s sister, that Adrienne was “frantic.” IMO it would be easy to throw someone off by using a frantic tone. If I received a call from the number of someone I care about and they were frantic and panicked I wouldn’t question if it were them. A 4+ minute phone call complete with gunshots and chaos, a misremembered address (I believe she would have needed to know her local address to adopt that dog in Benzie) sounds a little like a setup to me. MOO.

 

[indicolite22]

But that’s so strange IMO. Quintal has been carrying a concealed weapon for years according to her sister in the Brainscratch interviews. Why would she suddenly act so irrationally with it?

Because she actually believed that she was being attacked and was in mortal danger?

 

[Gardener1850]

I don't remember anything about Ada being afraid to go back downstate with Lundy. Where is this info coming from? Her sister said in an interview that Ada was being paid $500 to fix up the family cabin and her plan was to stay up there for a month to work on it. I think she was also planning to do some hunting during hunting season. Speaking of hunting, has there been any mention of additional firearms that are missing? Were there any hunting rifles at the cabin?

 

[indicolite22]

Is there a source for her fear of returning downstate? Because if so that’s pretty big!

Yes, but if it has not been published in MSM or mentioned by the police, it would be considered a rumor around here.