Deceased/Not Found MI - Bianca Jones, 2, Detroit, 2 Dec 2011 - #1 - *D. Lane guilty*

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  • #61
It sounds like someone waved him down for help. Which does make a little more sense. Maybe he didn't know what was wrong with the red car when he first stopped?


Still waiting for more news from LE.

Good grief...I hope that the parents, had nothing to do with this...honestly. I'll be happy to eat some crow...with bbq sauce. Please just find the little one.
 
  • #62
It sounds like someone waved him down for help. Which does make a little more sense. Maybe he didn't know what was wrong with the red car when he first stopped?


Still waiting for more news from LE.


Then this article says a gun was pulled on the father
The father told police he was driving near his home around 9:45 a.m. in the city's New Center area when a man approached his vehicle, pulled a gun and ordered him to get out.

It also says the parents have been questioned and are distraught.
Godbee says the mother and father are "very distraught." They have been questioned and the situation is a "wide open investigation."

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/girl,-2,-inside-vehicle-carjacked-in-detroit-20111202


I'm hoping LE will release a statement soon.
 
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  • #64
Then this article says a gun was pulled on the father


It also says the parents have been questioned and are distraught.


http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/girl,-2,-inside-vehicle-carjacked-in-detroit-20111202


I'm hoping LE will release a statement soon.

I think they are getting the new info from the statement. One of the links had pics of the chief up that were taken while he was making the statement. I'm assuming the video will be available shortly.
 
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According to police, Deandre Lane, 32, said he was in his silver Mercury Marquis with his daughter in the back when he was carjacked at Brush and Custer at 10:10 a.m. Police Sgt. Eren Stephens said Lane was leaving his home on Custer when the incident occurred.

Within 10 minutes, the car was found at Beaubien and Philadelphia, less than a mile away from where the car was stolen - but the child was gone, police said.

Officers are mobilized in an alley west of Beaubien at Philadelphia, where the vehicle was found. About 75 officers - including Police Chief Ralph Godbee Jr. - are searching in vacant homes in the area. A police tracking dog was used, but was unable to find the carjackers.

Stephens said the carjackers told the father there was a problem with his taillight, and when he got out to look, they stole his vehicle.
http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/188390/14/Toddler-missing-after-carjacking-Amber-Alert-issued
This article also says that her mother was not in the vehicle at the time.
Now that sounds believeable. Someone stopped him as he was leaving and took the car. We had a man die here in Flint within the past couple of years during a carjacking in the driveway...his young son was in the car when it happened, I do believe.
 
  • #67
Chief Godbee: We're investigating an alleged car jacking that happened about 9:45 am at the area of Brush and the Boulevard. We're talking to mom and dad now, but obviously the most important thing right now for us is to locate two-year-old Bianca Jones. She was last seen wearing, according to her father, a purple coat, pink tights, pink shoes, also if anyone has any information to give us information as to what's going on relative to the child, the child's safety and safe return is of utmost importance to us right now. We have a command post set up, we're doing grid searches from where the vehicle was located at about 6 blocks from here. We have canines out, our mounted unit. I want to thank special agent in charge of Detroit field office or FBI Angelo Rena, we have our violent crimes task force out, so we have every available resource out making sure that we do every, we dot every I cross every T, search every home, talk to every individual, retrace the steps from the start of the day to make sure we bring this young lady home safely.

Q: Chief, what do we know about the parents and are you confident that what they're telling you is, in fact, true?
A: I'm not giving any credence to anything except the fact that we're compiling information. We're gonna leave no stone unturned, we're going to follow every investigative lead, we're going to vigorously challenge every thing that's given to us. I mean we're gonna do everything in our investigative capacity to make sure we locate this 2-year-old child.

Q: Has dad's story changed at all?
A: I'm not going to give any characterization as to the father, the mother. Right now that's not what's important. They appear to be very distraught and obviously if you have a two-year-old child and you don't know where that child is for me to assess the mental, they could be in shock or a number of different things. What's important for us right now is to get this information out as to the description of the child. If anyone has any information, has seen anything call 1-800-speakup, or the 13th precinct IOU 596-1340, 596 2200 but any information that we can gather right now, time is critical, we've got a command center set up, we're gonna work this til we find out what's going on with this child.

Q: They believed there was a car-jacking at first and the question is what kind of vehicles were involved. Is it true there was a grand marquis involved. Was the daughter in that vehicle at any time.
A: That was the car-jacked vehicle. We have located that vehicle. Based on the story that's been given to us, the child was in the vehicle at the time of the car-jacking in the Brush Boulevard area. So based on that premiss that is what we're working on right now.

Q: Did the Dad give any indication to you that his daughter was in the...
A: I don't want to give out too much information. This is a wide-open investigation. However, anybody watching, especially those that may be implicated in the crime. We want the child back safely. We'll deal with the rest of the stuff later. The important message we want to get out is a two-year-old that is unaccounted for, Bianca Jones, from the mother's description she may look like she's three or four cause she's a little tall for a two-year-old. Purple coat, pink tights, pink shoes, Bianca Jones. From what I understand from talking to the mother, she speaks well, she knows her name so she can articulate. So anyone that has information related to Bianca Jones, that's our focus right now.

Q: Suspect description?
A: light skinned male, African American about 6 feet tall, not very clean shaven 5 o clock shadow a brown button down dark pants
Q: was there a car seat in the vehicle
A: Yes there is
Q: how was it stolen?
A: It's an alleged car-jacking, at gunpoint. So that is the premiss that we're working on right now. If you give us an opportunity we'll circle back and we'll continue to update you as we get solid information and through our office of public information. And I'll give you a full briefing as we get better information

Q: Time is critical
A: Time is absolutely critical that's why I need to get back to the command post. Make sure we keep our efforts coordinated. Thank you very much

Q: the circumstances surrounding the car-jacking. Was the dad driving and somebody pulled him over or what
A: I really don't want to give too much detail on that. We can't give more detail that what we already have. It was an alleged car-jacking and we're following up on that. Thank you very much.
 
  • #68
I need a bit of a break from the news and am watching a holiday movie on HMC. I'll be back during the 4:00 news on WDIV - www.clickondetroit.com I believe that their newscasts are live-streamed for those who aren't local.
 
  • #69
I am hoping that with times being so tough for people -- especially in Detroit, that with all the big $$ rewards lately with missing kids, that some people decided they would hold the baby until reward was offered then "someone" could call in the tip for the reward! It's just so cold here now, I don't want to think about her outside :(
 
  • #70

Okay, so she was allegedly IN a car seat. (I assume they are not until I hear otherwise... sadly enough.)

The next question, could she unbuckle herself?
Was it an actual 5 point harness or a booster seat?
I'd like to think a harness because she wouldn't have outgrown it at 25lbs.

Could she "escape" from the seat on her own?

Were any of the car doors left open when it was ditched?

Could Bianca open the car door?

Could the car jacker have done what they do... realized there was a child in the car and ditched it...
Only to have Bianca get OUT on her own at that point?

You would think she would have been found because it sounds like this was a ten minute window that the car was gone...

You never know though and I'd like to know if Bianca was physically capable of getting out on her own.
 
  • #71
Okay, so she was allegedly IN a car seat. (I assume they are not until I hear otherwise... sadly enough.)

The next question, could she unbuckle herself?
Was it an actual 5 point harness or a booster seat?
I'd like to think a harness because she wouldn't have outgrown it at 25lbs.

Could she "escape" from the seat on her own?

Were any of the car doors left open when it was ditched?

Could Bianca open the car door?

Could the car jacker have done what they do... realized there was a child in the car and ditched it...
Only to have Bianca get OUT on her own at that point?

You would think she would have been found because it sounds like this was a ten minute window that the car was gone...

You never know though and I'd like to know if Bianca was physically capable of getting out on her own.

Her mother says she's very smart and tall for her age. So, it's possible, I suppose that she could get out. Even if she never had before, this wasn't exactly her normal routine, so she might have done it this time.
 
  • #72
Her mother says she's very smart and tall for her age. So, it's possible, I suppose that she could get out. Even if she never had before, this wasn't exactly her normal routine, so she might have done it this time.

But why would they carjack a 25 yr old car and dump it 10 minutes later and just leave the child inside the car? I think the child would be the target of the crime and not the car.
 
  • #73
Police said the girl’s name is Bianca Jones. She is black, about 25 pounds, with braids in her hair and was wearing either a pink or purple coat with rhinestones or beads on it, pink shoes and pink tights. The girl’s uncle, Olando Jones, said Lane was on his way to the girl’s mother’s house to pick up clothing for the girl who was to stay with Lane for a week.


“She is very intelligent,” said Olando Jones, 20. “She’s so smart and can speak and she’s really good and loves to read.”



Jones, said his sister Banika Jones, 32, and the girl’s father have a good relationship and that Lane is like a family member.

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Coming out of the home on Custer between Brush and John R, Olando Jones, pleaded through tears for whomever took his niece to please return her or drop her off safely at an area hospital or church.

“I want to help but I literally feel helpless, like there’s nothing I can do,” Olando Jones said. “And I hate this feeling because I’m very upset and never experienced this before.”

Jones said Bianca celebrated her 2nd birthday last week adding that shares her birth month with her mother and grandmother.

“I love you and I’m sorry this happened to you,” Jones tearfully said about Bianca. “I wish I could have been there and I pray to see you again."
http://www.freep.com/article/201112...-kidnapped-during-carjacking?odyssey=nav|head

They have 75 officers, the tracking dogs, the FBI, and now the mounted patrol, as well.
 
  • #74
But why would they carjack a 25 yr old car and dump it 10 minutes later and just leave the child inside the car? I think the child would be the target of the crime and not the car.

The car was only 7 years old. It's a 2004.
It would be normal for these kinds of carjackings. Maybe they wanted the car and when they realized they got a kid in the bargain too, they dumped the car ASAP.
 
  • #75
But why would they carjack a 25 yr old car and dump it 10 minutes later and just leave the child inside the car? I think the child would be the target of the crime and not the car.

I was incorrect in my earlier post. MSM has since said the car is an '04 or an '06 Grand Marquis. It's a newer model. I think the Grand Marquis is still in production, or was in production recently. It is the regular Marquis which was discontinued in '86.
 
  • #76
I was incorrect in my earlier post. MSM has since said the car is an '04 or an '06 Grand Marquis. It's a newer model. I think the Grand Marquis is still in production, or was in production recently. It is the regular Marquis which was discontinued in '86.

So maybe it was a carjacking after all. It still sounds off to me. But I am cynical and jaded after all the cases I have followed.
 
  • #77

:waitasec: Let me see, someone carjacks a Grand Marquis?? Father pulls over in Detroit, MI as dangerous as that is? supposedly for a faulty tail light in the daytime? Two yr. old was visiting with her father and he was supposedly taking her home? Suspects ditch the car and keep the two year old? Light-skinned African American and another man are described as the carjackers? (had to take a second here, had a painful Susan Smith moment).

I will be glad to admit that I'm wrong and I hope that I am wrong, but this story stinks, totally stinks to me. I do hope that there is someone who has seen this baby alive today and I hope that there are surveilance cameras along this father's route and I hope that he requests a LDT and is given one, immediately.:banghead:
 
  • #78
But why would they carjack a 25 yr old car and dump it 10 minutes later and just leave the child inside the car? I think the child would be the target of the crime and not the car.

Right. Car jackers tend to take cars for a couple of reasons:

1. To get to a location because they don't have a car;
2. To steal a car to strip for parts for money

To hijack a car, with a child in it, then dump it, is rare.

However, giving the jacker the benefit of the doubt. If he stole the car, looked in the rear view mirror, saw the child, then chances are he'd want to dump the car STAT.

Uhhh...my problem is why did he take the child with him? A 2 year old could hardly give LE a complete descriptions, and would be a horrible witness.

And wouldn't it make more sense for the jacker to leave the child there? This way he's not charged with further crimes (other than the kidnapping - but could prolly get off on a lesser charge by saying he didn't know the child was there).

I'm willing to eat crow, but I think I'm going to find the father did something with the 2 year old.

This article also says the father was alone with the girl in the car:

The girl’s uncle, Olando Jones, said Lane was on his way to the girl’s mother’s house to pick up clothing for the girl who was to stay with Lane for a week.

http://www.freep.com/article/201112...carjacking?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

I'll continue to pray that little Bianca is recovered quickly.

MOO

Mel
 
  • #79
Police searching abandoned buildings, abandoned homes.
 
  • #80
Parents...mom was escorted with detectives (along with other relatives)..also father escorted for questioning. No one in custody however
 
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