MI MI - Danielle Stislicki, 28, Southfield, 2 Dec 2016 #1

[thesaint]

I disagree with the comeback limited to adjacent areas. I work for Quicken and our company along with others have spent thousand of hours and volunteered to clean up, assist, work with those challenged areas with cleaning up the neighborhoods, schools, food pantrys, kitchens that serve the needy and so much more.

that's wonderful and helpful but doesn't the fact that these areas need soup kitchens, food pantries and volunteer cleanups belie the proposition that they are doing well? problem is that to have long-term, sustainable economic development soup kitchens and volunteer school clean ups, while wonderful things for sure, aren't going to get the job of getting jobs for the vast unemployed and welfare dependent legions of Detroiters done. they are but band-aids. very helpful. but they're still charity. just a different form of welfare. i'm sure the people who live there appreciate it and are grateful, but what they really want and need are jobs and an economic recovery that extends beyond downtown further than the Illitch & Gilbert families are willing to go.

 

[thesaint]

one day my husband and I were driving on the Lodge North and had to take an exit we did not want to take due to
traffic issues. We wound up on Hamilton near six mile Road. OMG-- I thought i was in some town in the middle east. no signs of life. burned out buildings block after block; no businesses: it was horrible. looks like a war zone. When they talk about Detroit making a come back I just shake my head. As you pointed out, it is getting better in the downtown area and areas like Greektown are nice. but anywhere else, you might as well be in Beirut.

Exactly. And if you keep driving off the freeways into the neighborhoods, the blight and crushing poverty go on and on and on and on; you can literally drive for hours and hours and see 80% blight and poverty with an occasional section of running businesses and decent houses. it's mind-numbing to do. like how can this be the same area as Birmingham and Troy and Rochester and all the nice, well-kempt suburbs just a few miles north of 8 mile.

Detroit's downtown is well-connected to the suburbs by interstate freeways; which makes it easy for someone commuting into downtown for work or for Lions/Tigers/Wings games or the casinos or a night out at a nice restaurant to get a false reading on the overall economic health of the city of Detroit writ large--it's a much, much, much larger city than the freeway-moat protected downtown and adjacent neighborhoods.

And that expansive area with less than 50% of the population that Detroit had at its peak, means providing city services, police and fire protection and public utilities is an overly costly proposition, on a per taxpayer basis.

 

[thesaint]

An early post by Holocene. I'll look for it.

ETA: Post #92 this thread.

Honestly it's a non-issue. She's always used a burner phone for years. Just personal preference. Trust me, the police have thoroughly vetted that issue.

on DS's instagram, which has a pretty black kitty-kat all over it, i hope someone's taking care of her cat and other pets, there's a screencap from DS of a text message from her dad joking about her phone being hot or starting on fire, playing off the 'burner phone' tag.

I don't have her instagram right-handy, but it's up thread in the early pages, iirc

 

[Mpharn]

I have a hard time believing that someone would drive her car back to her apartment and park right in front of the building.

Yes you're right-No way this is possible UNLESS someone lived there also- this place is so hard to find and address and then even if you do have the address once you pull in you're still lost.

 

[monkeypants]

Why in the world did she use burner phones?

 

[Bravo]

Why in the world did she use burner phones?

See post 377

 

[thesaint]

re: dug a little on the parking situation at these IG apts in FH.

1. Parking is tight;

2. so tight, they actually charge $14 per car just to have a car anywhere in the lot;

3. but if you want and are willing to pay an extra $14 ($28 extra on top of rent per month), you can get a reserved/assigned space right in front of your unit.

The parking...they advertise 799 for rent, that's if you don't own a vehicle. If you do and want to park it on the grounds, that's an additional 14 AND if you want a designated spot by your building that's another additional 14. So...28 for uncovered parking.

http://www.apartmentratings.com/mi/farmington-hills/independence-green_248477013348335/

the above makes it a little more plausible that someone other than DS might've ended up parking her vehicle in the spot right in front of her unit--if DS was shelling out the extra $14 a month to have a space reserved in front of her unit.

Given that it was a Friday evening, (just spit-balling) a perp might've been thinking that by parking her car in its usual space, it would take until Monday (or later) for anyone to suss out that DS was missing. Not knowing about missed dinner reservations (tho that's prolly not enough to raise the alarm) or, more significantly, DS having to work on Saturday.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

on DS's instagram, which has a pretty black kitty-kat all over it, i hope someone's taking care of her cat and other pets, there's a screencap from DS of a text message from her dad joking about her phone being hot or starting on fire, playing off the 'burner phone' tag.

I don't have her instagram right-handy, but it's up thread in the early pages, iirc

During the press conference, Danielle's mother got choked up when she said that they (parents) went to their daughter's apartment to get the cat that is now staying with them.

 

[Eileen730]

Could it be she arrived home and someone was waiting there in the parking lot and she got into the car and off they went. Now who?

 

[Gardener1850]

I'm a bit confused on the burner phone info. I thought a burner phone was for a one time or limited time use to contact people you didn't want to know your identity/real number and then thrown away. Was she replacing her phone often? Or was this just some phone number without a wireless company contract? Because I would not call the latter a "burner phone". JMO.

 

[Stasialynn82]

I don't know why, but my mind keeps coming back to the story Jenna Verhaalen who was strangled by her maintenance man. He let himself in to her apartment prior to her getting home from work at 9 pm and then hid in her second bedroom for at least 4 hours because he boyfriend ended up coming over. The guy had no criminal history and was the son of a pastor. If I recall the story correctly, there was no signs of struggle in her apartment either, in fact, the cause of death wasn't even obvious till the coroner found petechial hemorrhages in the whites of her eyes. If it wasn't for his DNA being found under her nails and a drop of his blood on the collar of her shirt, the case would have never been solved.

 

[Bravo]

Could it be she arrived home and someone was waiting there in the parking lot and she got into the car and off they went. Now who?

She was due at a longtime female friends for a visit and cook for her. And her purse was left in her jeep.

 

[Stasialynn82]

I'm a bit confused on the burner phone info. I thought a burner phone was for a one time or limited time use to contact people you didn't want to know your identity/real number and then thrown away. Was she replacing her phone often? Or was this just some phone number without a wireless company contract? Because I would not call the latter a "burner phone". JMO.

I am thinking it is the latter, because otherwise nobody would know what kind of phone she had, etc. I agree with you that is not a burner phone. Those types of phones can be pinged and I am pretty sure they can be tracked even when off. I strongly believe LE has more evidence than they are sharing with the public at this time and probably for good reason. I figure as time goes on if no good leads are generated from the information they are already provided, then they will release more.

 

[monkeypants]

See post 377

Yes I saw that but it makes zero logical sense. Normal people don't use burner phones. Period. She had a specific reason for it. I'm curious what it is.

 

[thesaint]

Why DEA if random tho? Maybe she was a rat?

The Secret Service, as people have mentioned, are prolly working on phone pings. I seem to recall the Secret Service being involved in the Jessica from Norton Shores disappearance from the get-go? For exactly that reason. I might be wrong on that.


But, yeah, the DEA and SONIC (South Oakland (County) Narcotics task force being involved strongly suggests LE has reason to suspect a drug nexus to this disappearance.

a couple speculative but perhaps plausible scenarios,

1. After leaving work early Friday, DS drove by her/a dealer's place to pick up something for the weekend; something happens there. dealer/whomever do whatever they did with DS and return her vehicle to her apt complex.


2. What the delivery guys I've seen in Chicago/Detroit do is they'll drive to you; but then either they come inside or have you jump in their ride with them and take a spin around the block to do the deal. Before either dropping you off down the block or back at your place.

What I've also seen and experienced, is that these deals are often not what you expect. The dealer will have extra people in the car with him. Maybe a couple girls. Maybe another customer. Maybe a cousin fresh out of prison. etc.

Or sometimes the dealer will dispatch one of his crew to make a delivery to you if he's in a different part of town and you're in a hurry. Again, same routine, dude pulls up, only this time it's some guy you've never seen before. You text the dealer, "WTH?" and the dealer says it's cool; it's his boy; go ahead and get in the car to make the deal.

I could see DS or anyone deciding to leave their purse behind in that scenario. Lock your valuables in your vehicle, take your keys and the cash needed and jump in.

DS, being in a hurry, might've texted the 420 delivery guy to meet her at her apt complex Friday after work. He gets there first. DS pulls up, parks in her spot and leaves her purse/wallet in her jeep. Takes her keys and the needed cash for the deal and gets in the delivery person's/people's vehicle.

Every dealer is always in a hurry once they get to you, for obvious reasons. So I could see DS not taking the time to drop off her purse / valuables inside her apt if the dealer's already there, waiting on her.

 

[Bravo]

See post # 109. Is that a burner phone?

 

[thesaint]

Why DEA if random tho? Maybe she was a rat?

Hadn't thought of that. What the narcotics/DEA types do is when they bust a low-level user they think could be useful helping them capture a bigger fish is try to pressure them into working with LE to bust their provider/dealer; and so on up the food chain. You won't even have a record of being arrested, if you agree to cooperate.

you get picked up by local LE for having some amount of illegal substances, cuffed, taken down to the station; and before they officially book you, someone or couple of guys from the drug task force come in the room and offer you the deal, if they feel you're the type that could help them.

No idea if that's this situation. But if something like that was going on with DS, it'd explain why someone whose livelihood was slanging narcotics--or someone in their gang, cuz all drug distribution these days is controlled by gangs--would have an interest in making DS disappear.

 

[Stasialynn82]

Just a random thought, but what if she saw some kind of illegal activity in the parking lot or inside her building, instead of being part of the illegal activity? Everyone seems to be going back to her buying marijuana, but what if she just witnessed something she wasn't suppose to? M-5 (the freeway directly adjacent to the apartment complex) runs directly into Detroit to the east and then west to basically all major freeways in the area. M-5 is a major thoroughfare for getting drugs out to the suburbs.

 

[thesaint]

Yes I saw that but it makes zero logical sense. Normal people don't use burner phones. Period. She had a specific reason for it. I'm curious what it is.

Burner phones might be a good idea if you're selling stuff on craigslist or if you use those weirdo honey-pot online dating apps.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

? for anyone who knows Danielle or has seen her recently: Hair color is different in two photos that are being used in local media reports. In photo with Danielle in maroon dress, her hair is much lighter than the photo in the teal sweater where hair is dark brown. Without dates for respective pictures, which photo is closer to DS' hair color now?