MI MI - Danielle Stislicki, 28, Southfield, 2 Dec 2016 #1

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Sorry missgulfsouth, meant no obfuscation. I am basing my working theory on academia, contacts, and professional life of 25 years. Mods have stats but honestly, only reasons i am here is because i work within a mile of this woman, and based on my background and personal beliefs want to offer pro bono help--and not just myself, other Michiganders. My point is that based on my PERSONAL experience SNOPES is NOT the best souce of information on human trafficking in Michigan. I posted some alternative sources. I do now want to argue--if you disagree that its not factor and Michigan is safe and free from this plight OK.

IMO... we are fortunate to have a professional MI PI here to help. Sadly, I to have considered human trafficking as well in this case. Just hoping Danielle will come home soon. I know some have suggested Danielle could be too old to be nabbed for this reason, but I've read in HT awareness posts that women (and men) up to 50 years of age are targeted by human traffickers.
 
Just wondering from reading blogs, etc...yesterday-how long she had lived at those apts. Sorry if this was already said and I missed it.

Reason being if a roommate or someone that had a key left with the key maybe she was met at the door upon entering and they left together by her choice or not?

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I read her entire blog from 2010 to early 2011 and then her 2 entries from 2012. A couple of things stood out:
1.) Who is H.M.? She only refers to him with initials in her blog , but clearly uses other friends names in her blog. Also, there isn't a picture of him on the blog, but other friends are pictured there.

2.) They were clearly in a serious relationship. They lived in 2 different apartments together, celebrated holidays with families, etc. In a couple of pictures she is wearing a ring on her left ring finger, but I can't tell if it is an engagement ring, etc.

3.) She worked in India sometime prior to her first entry in 2010 and she was with H.M. prior to leaving for India.

4.) H.M has family in Oscoda, MI and she shared at picture of his little brother from their Thanksgiving trip to see H.M.'s family.

5.) They appear to have separated sometime between 03/2011 & 11/2012 because in her "Smitten" blog she mentions that "I" moved to the Suburbs.
 
So her mom says she wouldn't miss that dinner. The friend had been gone for a while if I recall. It really bothers me that the friend did not aggressively pursue what was up with Danielle. Why?
 
Your interest and guidance is most appreciated. We don't really consider snopes to be a viable resource, in fact I think it's considered biased rumor, so I wouldn't put too much stock in anything snopes related.

About the HT angle, you mentioned that was an initial theory by local LE. I am listening. I know there is a man who helps find traffic victims, possibly in New York. I'll go hunt down his name when I get off work tonight, but if you don't want to wait for me make you can scan through the Destiny Butler thread to find out how they got their girl back. She was in Flint MI at one point, if i recall. His name is in there somewhere. [emoji4]
Is this who you are referring to?

Joe Mazzilli is a retired NYPD Detective who also founded the NY Runaway Assistance Program
 
If you scroll down and look on the right side, there is section called Details. It will say the day that it was submitted which was June 8th, 2006. So a little over 10 years ago. Danielle would have been 17 or 18 years old.

Personally I don't find the picture weird or alarming. I had a deviantart account back when I was in high school. Drawing was a good outlet at the time, but I would cringe if my friends/family saw some of the things i drew back then.

I didn't find her stuff unusual, either. Typical late adolescent romanticism.
 
So her mom says she wouldn't miss that dinner. The friend had been gone for a while if I recall. It really bothers me that the friend did not aggressively pursue what was up with Danielle. Why?
I have 3 kids in this age group. What they would have done is "blow up" her phone with a call and several texts. After no response then they would have been mad that their friend blew them off. Later on that night they might then start feeling like something might have happened to friend and try another text. By morning if no response they would try again, no response again and now would be when the worry would set in. Unless they had knowledge of some things not good going on in friends life concern would not jump in right away.

These are adults in their late 20's, with busy life's and it's not uncommon for no shows or ones to pop up hours later saying sorry something came up.
 
I have 3 kids in this age group. What they would have done is "blow up" her phone with a call and several texts. After no response then they would have been mad that their friend blew them off. Later on that night they might then start feeling like something might have happened to friend and try another text. By morning if no response they would try again, no response again and now would be when the worry would set in. Unless they had knowledge of some things not good going on in friends life concern would not jump in right away.

These are adults in their late 20's, with busy life's and it's not uncommon for no shows or ones to pop up hours later saying sorry something came up.

ITA with this
 
Yeah usually you'd want to document a relationship. No pictures of HM. There are pictures of a guy on her Tumblr account. But none of HM.

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I was browsing FB and I'm fairly certain I found the friend she was supposed to make dinner for. Her latest update talked about her thoughts/feelings and reaction to DS not making it over that Friday night.
Fairly certain I can't post a link, or give any other directions on how to see the post (since it's on SM?), though...


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So her mom says she wouldn't miss that dinner. The friend had been gone for a while if I recall. It really bothers me that the friend did not aggressively pursue what was up with Danielle. Why?

If I had not seen someone for a while and they stood me up I would either assume we had a miscommunication on the day or they were blowing me off or something else more important came up. I would not worry right away something happened to them because we had not seen each other in so long anyway. I think I would have done exactly what the friend did and not worried until the next day when I had called and texted and didn't hear anything back. Every time in my life when someone has no-showed and not called it has never been because they went missing. It has been ordinary things like they forgot to charge their phone and got a flat tire, or dropped their phone in the toilet and couldn't call me, or made other plans and forgot about our plans or thought we were meeting a different day/time. Life is busy and things happen. It's not very often that people just disappear, seemingly from the parking lot of their apt complex. I know it must seem from reading on cases here that we should panic and call police every time someone doesn't show up when expected, but in real life that is not realistic to expect. JMO. I think it would have been more suspicious if the friend assumed something bad happened right away. I would wonder what he knew about Danielle or her apt complex that led to that conclusion. But as it is, I think he had a reasonable reaction of going to her apt and calling police the next day. JMO.
 
Her mom said at the press conference that they have taken her cat to their house. It made her cry!

Also, this "secret service" that everyone is talking about...the sheriff or chief that was at the presser explained this is NOT the government secret service. This is a group of local LE undercover agents that work to gather information and such. There is NO SECRET SERVICE as in, the government, at least that is my understanding after listening closely to Sheriff. It is a LOCAL LE group. Here's a pretty good link with the synopsis of PC and pics of keychain, car, charm, coat

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2016/12/mother_of_missing_farmington_h.html

I'm way behind but just wanted to say yes Jashrema, a group of skilled officers from several depts usually and the last time I saw this, and I'm getting deja vu about saying this, but the last time I saw the term 'secret service' involved it was AH/Kibby in NH. That sent everyone on a wild goose chase as we didn't know ^^ the above at the time.

Ok back to catching up.
 
I wouldn't go to abduction, but I'd be worried she got in a car accident. I would try to make contact.
 
If I had not seen someone for a while and they stood me up I would either assume we had a miscommunication on the day or they were blowing me off or something else more important came up. I would not worry right away something happened to them because we had not seen each other in so long anyway. I think I would have done exactly what the friend did and not worried until the next day when I had called and texted and didn't hear anything back. Every time in my life when someone has no-showed and not called it has never been because they went missing. It has been ordinary things like they forgot to charge their phone and got a flat tire, or dropped their phone in the toilet and couldn't call me, or made other plans and forgot about our plans or thought we were meeting a different day/time. Life is busy and things happen. It's not very often that people just disappear, seemingly from the parking lot of their apt complex. I know it must seem from reading on cases here that we should panic and call police every time someone doesn't show up when expected, but in real life that is not realistic to expect. JMO. I think it would have been more suspicious if the friend assumed something bad happened right away. I would wonder what he knew about Danielle or her apt complex that led to that conclusion. But as it is, I think he had a reasonable reaction of going to her apt and calling police the next day. JMO.

The friend with whom Danielle was to have dinner on Friday evening was a long-time female friend, not a "he".
 
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