MI MI - Danielle Stislicki, 28, Southfield, 2 Dec 2016 #12

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The word obsession seems to be at the heart of this...

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Ozoner said:
In terms of other potential victims, I think it would be worth looking at this security guard in the Alexandra Brueger case. Alexandra is the jogger shot and killed in Rose Township on July 30, 2016. There are some basic similarities in victimology in that she was a very fit, white brunette about Dani's age.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Twp-30-July-2016&highlight=Alexandra+Brueger
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Is this person known to use weapons or carry? I know he's a SG but many don't carry weapons or aren't allowed to.

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Ozoner said:
In terms of other potential victims, I think it would be worth looking at this security guard in the Alexandra Brueger case. Alexandra is the jogger shot and killed in Rose Township on July 30, 2016. There are some basic similarities in victimology in that she was a very fit, white brunette about Dani's age.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Twp-30-July-2016&highlight=Alexandra+Brueger
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IMO the circumstances seem totally different and I don't see anything substantial to link the two cases

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  • #65
Please do not sleuth Dani's family members' personal SM accounts and discuss your findings here.

It's against The Rules

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Razz said:
Is this person known to use weapons or carry? I know he's a SG but many don't carry weapons or aren't allowed to.

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I can't answer your question. However, my reasoning is that he may have been fantasizing about murdering women for a long time. Serial killers derive serial gratification from murdering their victims even if no sexual activity (i.e., rape) takes place. This perp may have started by shooting a jogger but then decided that he wanted the sort of bigger thrill that could only come from pulling off an abduction.
What put me in mind of the Brueger case was actually another Michigan no-body murder case: the prosecution of Jeffrey Willis for the abduction and murder of Jessica Heeringa. Willis also shot a jogger to death. (I've even wondered if maybe the security guard had been trying to emulate Willis.)
I won't say that the security guard is a likely suspect in the other case--I admit that it's a long shot--but I thought the basic similarities between Dani and Alexandra made the possible connection worth mentioning.
 
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Popping in for updates !! Please know that all of us south of Farmington are praying and hoping for news and answers!! #finddani

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Ozoner said:
I can't answer your question. However, my reasoning is that he may have been fantasizing about murdering women for a long time. Serial killers derive serial gratification* from murdering their victims even if no sexual activity (i.e., rape) takes place. This perp may have started by shooting a jogger but then decided that he wanted the sort of bigger thrill that could only come from pulling off an abduction.
What put me in mind of the Brueger case was actually another Michigan no-body murder case: the prosecution of Jeffrey Willis for the abduction and murder of Jessica Heeringa. Willis also shot a jogger to death. (I've even wondered if maybe the security guard had been trying to emulate Willis.)
I won't say that the security guard is a likely suspect in the other case--I admit that it's a long shot--but I thought the basic similarities between Dani and Alexandra made the possible connection worth mentioning.
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*I meant to say sexual gratification.

I'm convinced that Dani's abduction was sexually motivated, and I'm convinced that more women will disappear if the creep who's responsible isn't stopped.

He may be keeping his nose clean now because of the scrutiny that he's under, but eventually he will claim another victim in order to fulfill his sexual urges. LE doesn't have the budget to watch him forever--in fact, they've probably already stopped watching him closely--and he knows that. He will probably choose a random victim next time, so it will be more difficult to catch him.
 
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Ozoner said:
*I meant to say sexual gratification.

I'm convinced that Dani's abduction was sexually motivated, and I'm convinced that more women will disappear if the creep who's responsible isn't stopped.

He may be keeping his nose clean now because of the scrutiny that he's under, but eventually he will claim another victim in order to fulfill his sexual urges. LE doesn't have the budget to watch him forever--in fact, they've probably already stopped watching him closely--and he knows that. He will probably choose a random victim next time, so it will be more difficult to catch him.
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RBBM

I have actually been wondering how he has been spending his days. It has been over five months since his address and current circumstances at home were first revealed via MSM and his name on SM. Does he work (any family businesses)? Does he ever get out? And most importantly, is there someone with him at all times, or wherever he is staying, is there a security system, like the one I had to have installed to monitor my teenage-daughter's activities (I had a very good reason to do this; I love her, but at times she can be her own worst enemy)?

There are times when I wonder about his possible involvement because so many people seem to be so eager to help him, and others quite supportive of those who are assisting him, whether as a "so-called" professional (and no, I am not against all lawyers and have worked with quite a few good ones; I just don't care for arrogant, pompous people in general, regardless of what they do for a living) or otherwise. Do they know something we don't that absolutely convinces them that he cannot possibly be involved in any way? Or are they all drinking the Kool-Aid, so to speak? Or are they just being selfish in the worst possible way? To me, this has been one of the biggest mysteries about this case. Very interesting (and troubling, IMO) dynamic.
 
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inmyhumbleopinion said:
RBBM

I have actually been wondering how he has been spending his days. It has been over five months since his address and current circumstances at home were first revealed via MSM and his name on SM. Does he work (any family businesses)? Does he ever get out? And most importantly, is there someone with him at all times, or wherever he is staying, is there a security system, like the one I had to have installed to monitor my teenage-daughter's activities (I had a very good reason to do this; I love her, but at times she can be her own worst enemy)?

There are times when I wonder about his possible involvement because so many people seem to be so eager to help him, and others quite supportive of those who are assisting him, whether as a "so-called" professional (and no, I am not against all lawyers and have worked with quite a few good ones; I just don't care for arrogant, pompous people in general, regardless of what they do for a living) or otherwise. Do they know something we don't that absolutely convinces them that he cannot possibly be involved in any way? Or are they all drinking the Kool-Aid, so to speak? Or are they just being selfish in the worst possible way? To me, this has been one of the biggest mysteries about this case. Very interesting (and troubling, IMO) dynamic.
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This post is really thought-provoking. I think denial is just such a hugely strong force that it takes so much to get people to believe that someone they love or like a lot and deeply trust would do such a thing. Think of the person you love the most in the world. Don't you just know they would never do something like this? That's how I feel about my husband. If someone told me he did this, it would take almost nothing short of witnessing it myself to believe it, at least for a long time. Over time as evidence built up, my blinders (I hope) would drop off, but in the meantime, before that happened, I would just be wondering why everyone was so quick to judge my obviously-innocent husband.

Remember the Hannah Graham case in Charlottesville? So many of his friends and family were so sure her killer wasn't responsible that he was getting encouraging posts on Facebook telling him to be strong, and a defense fund was started for him. There were other people who had seen another side of him, but there were lots of true believers, including his family. As the evidence mounted, they seemed to accept that he had done it, but even with just so much evidence, tons of it, it took them a while to get there.

And he had been violently raping and killing for YEARS!
 
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Skigirl said:
This post is really thought-provoking. I think denial is just such a hugely strong force that it takes so much to get people to believe that someone they love or like a lot and deeply trust would do such a thing. Think of the person you love the most in the world. Don't you just know they would never do something like this? That's how I feel about my husband. If someone told me he did this, it would take almost nothing short of witnessing it myself to believe it, at least for a long time. Over time as evidence built up, my blinders (I hope) would drop off, but in the meantime, before that happened, I would just be wondering why everyone was so quick to judge my obviously-innocent husband.

Remember the Hannah Graham case in Charlottesville? So many of his friends and family were so sure her killer wasn't responsible that he was getting encouraging posts on Facebook telling him to be strong, and a defense fund was started for him. There were other people who had seen another side of him, but there were lots of true believers, including his family. As the evidence mounted, they seemed to accept that he had done it, but even with just so much evidence, tons of it, it took them a while to get there.

And he had been violently raping and killing for YEARS!
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Add to everything you said the fact that psychopaths have a knack for surrounding themselves with people that they know they'll be able to manipulate. They avoid the people who see through them.

As for how the security guard is spending his days, his sister-in-law (the one who lead the Walk for Truth up and down Benjamin Street in Royal Oak) has indicated to the media that the SG is living pretty well on her parents' dime.

My guess is that he is supremely confident in his ability to avoid prosecution and that his face has a self-satisfied grin any time no one is looking.
 
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Ozoner said:
I can't answer your question. However, my reasoning is that he may have been fantasizing about murdering women for a long time. Serial killers derive serial gratification from murdering their victims even if no sexual activity (i.e., rape) takes place. This perp may have started by shooting a jogger but then decided that he wanted the sort of bigger thrill that could only come from pulling off an abduction.
What put me in mind of the Brueger case was actually another Michigan no-body murder case: the prosecution of Jeffrey Willis for the abduction and murder of Jessica Heeringa. Willis also shot a jogger to death. (I've even wondered if maybe the security guard had been trying to emulate Willis.)
I won't say that the security guard is a likely suspect in the other case--I admit that it's a long shot--but I thought the basic similarities between Dani and Alexandra made the possible connection worth mentioning.
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Security guards that work at Providence Park Hospital in Novi (where Alexandria worked as a nurse) can be armed...
 
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Lately Rich's posts seem like he believes Dani is gone. If she is, I always hope when a body is found that is indeed Danielle. Most importantly so her family can bring her home and secondly so justice can be served. If my daughter had passed away and I couldn't bring her home it would be torture. Danielle needs to be home no matter what. Not knowing would be torture.
 
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Spent the weekend reading these threads about Danielle. She seems like such a ray of light, and I agree with a lot of you that she's like the friend we've never met. My heart breaks for her family, especially since it seems almost everyone is sure of who was involved but there just doesn't seem to be enough proof.

I also wanted to say how impressed I am with all of you who have kept her name out there even with the lack of information/updates in this case. I've been a lurker on this site for a while before I finally registered last month and I've seen case after case where there is no information and most people lose interest very quickly. I commend you all for sticking with Dani. Here's to hoping we don't have to wait much longer to bring her home.
 
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Ozoner said:
In terms of other potential victims, I think it would be worth looking at this security guard in the Alexandra Brueger case. Alexandra is the jogger shot and killed in Rose Township on July 30, 2016. There are some basic similarities in victimology in that she was a very fit, white brunette about Dani's age.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Twp-30-July-2016&highlight=Alexandra+Brueger
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Well, who knows. I'm not sure how close (miles wise) these 2 cases are but would it have been possible that SG had been a security guard at the hospital?

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Razz said:
Well, who knows. I'm not sure how close (miles wise) these 2 cases are but would it have been possible that SG had been a security guard at the hospital?
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I think we'd have heard that.

Rose Township is about 35 miles from Danielle's workplace but only about 21 miles from South Lyon, where the security guard used to work as a firefighter.
 
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