MI MI - Danielle Stislicki, 28, Southfield, 2 Dec 2016 #12

[Owl4]

This case has me in many emotions. Pass few days I've cried, I've prayed, I've thrown my phone. I never new Dani. But, I wear my ribbon and I know in the end justice will be served. Her loved ones deserve an answer and she needs to come home. PERIOD. May it be not the way we wanted but NO ONE has the right to do what FLOYD has done. Sick SOB. Much love to you all!

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[BloodHoundSleuther]

Idk something just isn't adding up time wise . He just looked like a slob to me and not a calculating, meticulous murderer. He was playing beer pong the next day, early. He went to his old place of business where he would absolutely be recognized. No one trying to pull off a perfect murder would do that. We are all missing something. I just can't figure out what.

I have honestly pondered these same questions. However, I also consider a highly manipulative person could do things in such a way to make one question his very actions.....such as, say returning her jeep to her apartment to divert LE in the wrong direction and buy additional time to clean up. If a perpetrator is this calculating then I can quickly dismiss playing beer pong the next day as deflection. As for his appearance, there's just now way on earth I'd ever judge a book by it's cover, I'd be mislead on a daily basis!

 

[Ozoner]

I have honestly pondered these same questions. However, I also consider a highly manipulative person could do things in such a way to make one question his very actions.....such as, say returning her jeep to her apartment to divert LE in the wrong direction and buy additional time to clean up. If a perpetrator is this calculating then I can quickly dismiss playing beer pong the next day as deflection. As for his appearance, there's just now way on earth I'd ever judge a book by it's cover, I'd be mislead on a daily basis!

BBM

Very true. The affability, friendliness, and politeness are all part of the mask--pure manipulation. His victims are the only ones who have seen the monster behind the mask.

 

[BloodHoundSleuther]

BBM

Very true. The affability, friendliness, and politeness are all part of the mask--pure manipulation. His victims are the only ones who have seen the monster behind the mask.

Thank you for so eloquently summing up my thoughts!

 

[DakotaMayi]

Yeah except he was well known there so he was going to be seen, plus she left at a time that was unusual. Was he hiding in her jeep?

There are literally SO MANY explanations as to his excuse to be there. But did you ever think that maybe he just didn't care? Maybe he was just SO arrogant that he thought, "I've done this once and got away with it, why not this time." People do these thing ALL OF THE TIME! He's a killer... He didn't care about raping someone and he didn't care about taking someones life away from them so he probably didn't care about being seen at MetLife.

 

[loreet]

There is a great deal to play out through the legal process in multiple cases now. But with the serious, premeditated nature of these crimes and the possibility of premeditated murder in the case of Danielle, I do NOT believe there should be any 'deals,' no possibility of parole presented if FG is either suspected or charged with Dani's disappearance and murder. I realize this would be extremely difficult for Dani's family if she is never found, but compared to the chance of a dangerous serial predator being released? Never. This should never be allowed.

 

[forthefreefood]

We don't. My question would be if it is not DNA then what could the evidence be that would connect the two cases? The victim could have recognized him however that would not automatically mean he was a POI in Danis case. It doesn't sound like they did a line up. He was arrested at work and his attorney stated this came out of the blue. This makes me believe there was DNA or something they found in his house that maybe tied the two cases together. DNA from the jogger on something of his??? But then why would they have taken her DNA ... ??


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I believe it was states that he did get the joggers clothes off before she got away. Maybe he took an article of her clothing when he ran and they found it in his house when they searched it regarding Dani.

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[forthefreefood]

Idk something just isn't adding up time wise . He just looked like a slob to me and not a calculating, meticulous murderer. He was playing beer pong the next day, early. He went to his old place of business where he would absolutely be recognized. No one trying to pull off a perfect murder would do that. We are all missing something. I just can't figure out what.

Sorry if this has been talked about a lot already, but what evidence do we have that he was at met life? I believe the news sources stayed that they were seen together. Could have been in a car or at his house.

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[Skigirl]

I'm not reluctant to believe it and I'm certainly not here to argue, it just hasn't been definitively stated that the connection is for a fact DNA.....that could however be inferred from the MSM, but it's still not 100% definitive in my opinion. I do consider there are other possibilities that may be connections as well.

But it HAS... I've provided links to the information. I'm not sure where the idea that there is no definitive link is even coming from? Is there some article that is more reputatble that says that there isn't, or that it has not been established? The very first news reports that came on the air...literally just as the reporter walked out of a conversation with the police...said that there was a DNA transfer during the sexual assault, and that DNA provided a link to the Stislicki case. This is the one her family posted the evening it was announced after they had spoken with LE. I think they are looking for more evidence to charge him with her murder, but that is not the same thing as a) not considering him a POI, which they have stated they do, and b) not having a DNA link.

 

[andalso]

Sorry if this has been talked about a lot already, but what evidence do we have that he was at met life? I believe the news sources stayed that they were seen together. Could have been in a car or at his house.

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I am glad you asked this, because I was wondering the same.

And, if he was there, in what scenario would he have had to go into the building? He could have just been lurking by her car.

 

[Momma2cam]

Sorry if this has been talked about a lot already, but what evidence do we have that he was at met life? I believe the news sources stayed that they were seen together. Could have been in a car or at his house.

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It is possible he was seen talking to her in the parking lot of MetLife by several co-workers. Jmo.

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[andalso]

I have been wondering if Floyd or his wife had a car parked at the hospital?

Do we know what hospital she was in? And how close it was to Dani's apartment?

Or, if there is any public transportation (bus) he could take from her apartment complex to the hospital? Then once at hospital, visit ailing wife and then he has his own family vehicle in hospital lot to drive home?

(sorry if this has been discussed in past, I don't remember if it has)

 

[forthefreefood]

It is possible he was seen talking to her in the parking lot of MetLife by several co-workers. Jmo.

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Definitely possible, IMO not the most likely scenario. Not sure why people are discussing on here like it is fact. :/

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[Skigirl]

I am glad you asked this, because I was wondering the same.

And, if he was there, in what scenario would he have had to go into the building? He could have just been lurking by her car.

At this point, all I've heard are rumors not allowable by WS, so I don't think we can consider it an established fact that he was seen at MetLife that night.

 

[andalso]

Due to the known fact that Floyd quickly disabled his Livonia victim with a punch to the face...I would imagine that Dani's fate was much the same.
I just don't imagine a conversation taking place between FG and Dani in the parking lot. Rather, I'd imagine he quickly gained control of Dani through violence.

 

[rpgman]

There are literally SO MANY explanations as to his excuse to be there. But did you ever think that maybe he just didn't care? Maybe he was just SO arrogant that he thought, "I've done this once and got away with it, why not this time." People do these thing ALL OF THE TIME! He's a killer... He didn't care about raping someone and he didn't care about taking someones life away from them so he probably didn't care about being seen at MetLife.

exactly...he has no conscience.

 

[Momma2cam]

Definitely possible, IMO not the most likely scenario. Not sure why people are discussing on here like it is fact. :/

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It is not a fact established by MSM or LE, publicly at least. Somehow, Floyd was on their radar very quickly, though. It is believed the first search warrant was obtained within the first couple weeks. SIL reported in MSM that LE told her witnesses saw Danielle at Floyd's home, as well. Some of the very first comments by her parents also were in regards to her possibly being taken advantage of by her kind nature and asking for anyone to come forward that saw her driving her Jeep home that night. They specifically wanted to know if she was alone and if she looked distraught.

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[BetteDavisEyes]

Idk something just isn't adding up time wise . He just looked like a slob to me and not a calculating, meticulous murderer. He was playing beer pong the next day, early. He went to his old place of business where he would absolutely be recognized. No one trying to pull off a perfect murder would do that. We are all missing something. I just can't figure out what.

This question might not have an answer just yet since we haven't heard from Dani's MetLife colleagues, but was FG known to "visit" his former workplace frequently since being transferred to another site? Many here have suggested that FG was "obsessed" with Danielle, and I'm not seeing the rationale for those comments. If he was assigned to another site, how/when was FG obsessing over Danielle?

It would seem to me that, if FG was frequently seen at MetLife following his transfer, someone would have noticed that he was hanging around, perhaps waiting to see Danielle. Maybe he was, and we simply don't have that piece of the puzzle yet. I also wonder if the "obsession" might have risen to the level of stalking, in which case, it would be patently obvious that FG was up to no good. I'm sure many of Danielle's colleagues at ML have been interviewed, and perhaps they can shed a light on whether or not FG "visited" the facility frequently after his transfer in October, 2016, or if the December 2 incident was a single appearance at ML.

 

[inmyhumbleopinion]

Due to the known fact that Floyd quickly disabled his Livonia victim with a punch to the face...I would imagine that Dani's fate was much the same.
I just don't imagine a conversation taking place between FG and Dani in the parking lot. Rather, I'd imagine he quickly gained control of Dani through violence.

Yes, I do think it didn't take him long to gain control of her and also through violent means , but once they were inside her car. It was only then he showed the ugly part of him only his victims have seen.

I have to think they were seen by someone(s) who were able to identify both of them and together in the parking lot for the very reasons Momma2 talked about.

And if so, the entire crime -not only assault, kidnapping, etc., but murder, as opposed to anything accidental (e.g., "We were just 'hooking up,' and when we got back to my place, she wanted me to choke her -I am not going to be graphic, but if you know what I mean ...-, and the next thing, she was dead!")-, was premeditated, IMO: Danielle knew who he was, and she most certainly would have gone to LE, and he had to know that.

I believe this is one of the reasons why it is so important that she be found because he would likely use the "Everything was consensual" BS once charged. Evidence of massive blood loss on the part of Danielle ... ... in the Berkeley house, garage, car, etc. would be pretty damning, too, but we all want to make absolutely sure this "man" goes away for a very, very long time -while making sure Danielle is brought home ... for me, I think that would be what I want more than anything ...-, and I am confident that is exactly what LE is working on.

 

[hashbrownz]

It is not a fact established by MSM or LE, publicly at least. Somehow, Floyd was on their radar very quickly, though. It is believed the first search warrant was obtained within the first couple weeks. SIL reported in MSM that LE told her witnesses saw Danielle at Floyd's home, as well. Some of the very first comments by her parents also were in regards to her possibly being taken advantage of by her kind nature and asking for anyone to come forward that saw her driving her Jeep home that night. They specifically wanted to know if she was alone and if she looked distraught.

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In my earlier posts, I wasn't trying to discuss FG at MetLife like it was a fact. I was just discussing it as a possible scenario. I was saying that IF he did end up getting into contact there, XYZ could have happened. Like Momma2 just said, I've never seen any LE or MSM reports that FG and Dani were in fact seen together at ML.

I also think something must have had to lead LE to FG rather quickly, which brings me back to what Momma2 just said about Dani's parents at the press conference.

So IMO, if he was seen there, it's possible - like somebody else said - that he was arrogant enough not to care if he was seen. It's also a possibility that even if he was trying to carry out a calculated plan, that he decided to take the risk being seen there. It's possible, at this point, that he was thinking he got away with the Livonia rape, so the arrogance could have been there. I don't think placing FG at MetLife that day throws out the idea that it was calculated. He could have still been planning the whole thing and showed up at ML. JMO.