MI MI - Danielle Stislicki, 28, Southfield, 2 Dec 2016 #12

[Huskerdoo62]

The announcement that Danielle was the victim of a crime came right before the search covered by the press of 2910 Oxford in Berkley, but after there had been several searches of the house that MSM hadn't gotten wind of.

It is reasonable to infer that LE's declaring Danielle the victim of a crime was directly related to evidence collected at the Berkley house. <mod snip>

I would believe that LE made the determination that she was the victim of a crime once they determined she was not away of her own volition. The determination of being a victim of a crime was probably part of their justification to a judge for the search warrants used.

 

[dexter75]

I'm a bit West of there in Michigan, but depending on work schedule, I would drive there to help search also !!

Same&#128522;

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[LillianBerowski]

I think she misspoke.

 

[DakotaMayi]

The announcement that Danielle was the victim of a crime came right before the search covered by the press of 2910 Oxford in Berkley, but after there had been several searches of the house that MSM hadn't gotten wind of.

It is reasonable to infer that LE's declaring Danielle the victim of a crime was directly related to evidence collected at the Berkley house. <mod snip>

My post can be deleted but this is and was (with the extra) still the truest post on here.

 

[Bird of Paradise]

I think she misspoke.

Who misspoke?

 

[DakotaMayi]

I think she misspoke.

Are you referring to Karen?

 

[Bird of Paradise]

Are you referring to Karen?

The original poster said "I think she misspoke" without including a quote so I don't know who they are referring to. Do you?

 

[Bird of Paradise]

The announcement that Danielle was the victim of a crime came right before the search covered by the press of 2910 Oxford in Berkley, but after there had been several searches of the house that MSM hadn't gotten wind of.

It is reasonable to infer that LE's declaring Danielle the victim of a crime was directly related to evidence collected at the Berkley house. <mod snip>

BBM
Is there a link to an official statement that searches of FG's house took place before the MSM announcement?

This link states she was declared a victim of a crime on 12/19/16.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...farmington-hills-woman-crime-victim/95632814/

TIA. I like to keep my facts lined up and may not be remembering all at this point.

From the media thread I found this:

WXYZ.com article dated 12/26/2016:
LE says they've been collecting evidence at numerous locations and tips they've received have been valuable

Per Fox News article titled "Security Guard's Home Searched In Hunt For Missing Michigan Woman" dated 1/6/2017:

 

[DakotaMayi]

The original poster said "I think she misspoke" without including a quote so I don't know who they are referring to. Do you?

I think OP means Karen Drew when she may have misspoke about locating Danielle's phone.

 

[thekarmabus]

I think OP means Karen Drew when she may have misspoke about locating Danielle's phone.

Yes, this is how I read it. Was a reply regarding the news reporter and phone.


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[Ozoner]

The announcement that Danielle was the victim of a crime came right before the search covered by the press of 2910 Oxford in Berkley, but after there had been several searches of the house that MSM hadn't gotten wind of.

It is reasonable to infer that LE's declaring Danielle the victim of a crime was directly related to evidence collected at the Berkley house. <mod snip>

BBM
Is there a link to an official statement that searches of FG's house took place before the MSM announcement?

Official statements from LE don't normally include details like the dates search warrants were executed. So the answer to the question is, I doubt it, but it's irrelevant.

The earlier searches were reported by MSM, which is another reliable source of information that can be considered in forum discussions.

Websleuther newwe supplied the relevant source information back on page 19 of this thread:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5862efcee4b0eb5864878738

Thought That I would back up my statement with a link. The reporter states the home had been searched for a few weeks before dec 22. I think it was the dec 22 search when the news finally found out. They report that the home had been a focus for quite sometime at that point. The neighbor in the video also indicates that the dec 22 search was not the first search.

 

[monkeypants]

Official statements from LE don't normally include details like the dates search warrants were executed. So the answer to the question is, I doubt it, but it's irrelevant.

The earlier searches were reported by MSM, which is another reliable source of information that can be considered in forum discussions.

Websleuther newwe supplied the relevant source information back on page 19 of this thread:

It seems to me that LE has done multiple searches. What makes someone sure it was after the search of his house she was declared a victim? What about the other multiple locations they have Never Divulged? Below is from your link provided for reference.

“Farmington Hills detectives and members of the Oakland County Sheriff’s Office Crime Lab were at a home in Berkley last night investigating the disappearance of Danielle Stislicki,” Farmington Hills Police Chief Chuck Nebus wrote in a Friday news release. “Farmington Hills detectives and investigators from several other agencies have been involved in searches and the collection of evidence at numerous locations over the past three weeks …. There will be no further information released at this time.”

 

[Bird of Paradise]

Official statements from LE don't normally include details like the dates search warrants were executed. So the answer to the question is, I doubt it, but it's irrelevant.

The earlier searches were reported by MSM, which is another reliable source of information that can be considered in forum discussions.

Websleuther newwe supplied the relevant source information back on page 19 of this thread:

Nothing is irrelevant when it comes to compiling facts in a murder investingation IMO.

Thank you for the video link.

 

[Ozoner]

It seems to me that LE has done multiple searches. What makes someone sure it was after the search of his house she was declared a victim? What about the other multiple locations they have Never Divulged? Below is from your link provided for reference.

“Farmington Hills detectives and members of the Oakland County Sheriff’s Office Crime Lab were at a home in Berkley last night investigating the disappearance of Danielle Stislicki,” Farmington Hills Police Chief Chuck Nebus wrote in a Friday news release. “Farmington Hills detectives and investigators from several other agencies have been involved in searches and the collection of evidence at numerous locations over the past three weeks …. There will be no further information released at this time.”

It is far more likely than not, for the police conducted multiple searches at 2910 Oxford over a period of at least two or three weeks, and they took a matress and floorboards. Their actions suggest that they consider the house a crime scene (though not necessarily the only crime scene.
Even though the police didn't divulge other search locations, we can guess a few of them:
-The IG parking lot and grounds
-The Met Life parking lot
-Any personal areas (like a locker or desk) at the security guard's work location

 

[Huskerdoo62]

It is far more likely than not, for the police conducted multiple searches at 2910 Oxford over a period of at least two or three weeks, and they took a matress and floorboards. Their actions suggest that they consider the house a crime scene (though not necessarily the only crime scene.
Even though the police didn't divulge other search locations, we can guess a few of them:
-The IG parking lot and grounds
-The Met Life parking lot
-Any personal areas (like a locker or desk) at the security guard's work location

I thought when LE did the first reported search, it was stated they didn't consider the house a crime scene. They were just looking for evidence of what may have happened.

Sorry if my my recollection is bad. Very hard catching up on this. Everything you read starts to blend together. I'm trying to make sure I understand how things went.

 

[Huskerdoo62]

For me, I believe the sequence goes as follows.

Dani disappears.

LE gets information during their investigation that points to FG as being one of, if not the last, person to be seen with her.

They bring him in for questioning and he refuses to cooperate.

LE can get subpoenas and warrants for several things I'm sure while officially categorizing Dani as missing, but to get a search warrant for FGs residence, I would believe they changed her to officially to being a victim of a crime. I don't think you could get a warrant to search someone's home without there being a victim of a crime. My supposition.

LE executes their warrants, looking for evidence of Dani having been in the Oxford home. Looking for physical and/or forensic items.

They test the mattress, is positive for bodily fluids/blood. They take it.
They get a similar hit on the floorboards. Take them. We don't know how big an area they took. Only evidence we know if them taking from inside the home (that I've read).

I believe it's possibly the mattress where they obtained FGs DNA profile to match to Hines Park.

Now, testing the mattress, they would find at least two DNA profiles. The home owners. Samples that don't match Dani's. Hers is probably the only one they have. Remember, FG is no cooperating, so I'm presuming he didn't provide a DNA sample.

Same thing with the floorboards. They test.

We don't know the results of those tests.

 

[DakotaMayi]

I thought when LE did the first reported search, it was stated they didn't consider the house a crime scene. They were just looking for evidence of what may have happened.

Sorry if my my recollection is bad. Very hard catching up on this. Everything you read starts to blend together. I'm trying to make sure I understand how things went.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think they ever said the house WAS NOT a crime scene. I think they just didn't say either way. They did say that they didn't think she had been back to the apartment so that was not the crime scene... or something along those lines... I'm so tired.

 

[DakotaMayi]

For me, I believe the sequence goes as follows.

Dani disappears.

LE gets information during their investigation that points to FG as being one of, if not the last, person to be seen with her.

They bring him in for questioning and he refuses to cooperate.

LE can get subpoenas and warrants for several things I'm sure while officially categorizing Dani as missing, but to get a search warrant for FGs residence, I would believe they changed her to officially to being a victim of a crime. I don't think you could get a warrant to search someone's home without there being a victim of a crime. My supposition.

LE executes their warrants, looking for evidence of Dani having been in the Oxford home. Looking for physical and/or forensic items.

They test the mattress, is positive for bodily fluids/blood. They take it.
They get a similar hit on the floorboards. Take them. We don't know how big an area they took. Only evidence we know if them taking from inside the home (that I've read).

I believe it's possibly the mattress where they obtained FGs DNA profile to match to Hines Park.

Now, testing the mattress, they would find at least two DNA profiles. The home owners. Samples that don't match Dani's. Hers is probably the only one they have. Remember, FG is no cooperating, so I'm presuming he didn't provide a DNA sample.

Same thing with the floorboards. They test.

We don't know the results of those tests.

Seems pretty right to me.

I would give so much to be a fly on the wall in any interviews with him... I'd love to know what little he has said about this. What are his excuses for not having done this.

 

[crhedBngr]

Lighting Dani's candle.

 

[thekarmabus]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think they ever said the house WAS NOT a crime scene. I think they just didn't say either way. They did say that they didn't think she had been back to the apartment so that was not the crime scene... or something along those lines... I'm so tired.

Correct. Wise to listen to what is NOT stated and not only what is stated. If LE were indeed there 2 or more times I would believe there was something in that home that tied her presence there. First time warrant may have been for computers, phones etc... from that warrant LE obtained additional information that warranted additional search warrants.


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