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Do you think maybe there was surveillance that saw them together at Met Life on
date she went missing or perhaps at other times?
date she went missing or perhaps at other times?
Do you think maybe there was surveillance that saw them together at Met Life on
date she went missing or perhaps at other times?
I think you have it exactly right. I can't stop thinking about what Dani--the amazing, smart, funny, loving, positive person we've gotten to know through SM, Dani--must have gone through, and how she must have felt, how terrified she must have been, and it's killing me.I am betting he followed her home. She didnt realize he was following her until she was at her apartment, parked in her space, and getting out of her car. Perhaps she turned around and there he was, and snatched her.
I think things turned south at her apartment complex.
ok, so that's entering the building in general?
MetLife might have, almost has to have, I would think, security people when you enter their offices inside that building***. Possibly/likely employees of / contracted out to the same people who provide security to the building overall.
which if they had that and he was one of the security people assigned to MetLife's offices, much easier to strike up a relationship, at whatever level.
But maybe not. Perhaps they just have proximity badges and they trust no one will buddy-enter behind employees badging themselves in.
Or nothing at all. Which would be crazy in 2016.
***For health insurers/ "covered entities" to be HIPPA-compliant, they have to "limit physical access to facilities while ensuring that only authorized access is allowed."
Maybe the apt complex has a 50K rider on their insurance that covers this sort of circumstance.
I haven't posted anything for a while, but I want to post a challenge to something a lot of people are assuming. If Dani's alleged abductor took her car and returned it themself, that person would have required assistance returning home or to their vehicle. So this brings into question the need for an accomplice or some sort of transportation service, which would alternatively imply a witness! With the apparent lack of phyical evidence and the slow pace of the investigation, the daytime abduction at her apartment seems more likely than masterfully puts her car right back where it belongs and then exposes himself to someone that can place him where she lives.
I live not too far from where DS lives and I admit to having stopped to help a stranger and driving the stranger to the gas station. My fiance offered the woman, without asking me...My mom was furious with me to which I replied that the woman seemed perfectly normal...in reality she spent her time in our vehicle on the phone with a friend and I did as well (my husband was driving), I think she was nervous like I was and we both had a friend on the line just in case but it was still stupid of me. My husband mike and I were like 22 at the time. I couldn't convince mike that he shouldn't ever do that, that he wasn't invincible and yet A few years later he saw a man walking with a gas can in hand in scorching hot temperatures and mike was by himself this time. He offered the man a ride to get gas and the guy was so appreciative that after mike refused to accept money for helping him, we discovered later that the man had thrown the $20 mike refused into the side of the passenger door lol. He took that to mean he did the right thing, I took it as he got so very lucky because plenty of so called "harmless looking soccer dads" are probably bad people but people make snap judgement, that "oh they don't look like a murderer" what the heck lol that kind of thinking leads people here
For all the good stories there's horrifying stories and I would now never ever risk such a thing. I will stop at car accidents to offer help or a phone in daylight but even that I have only done once since mike passed 11 months ago, it isn't worth the risk period. It's hard to ignore my instinct to help people. My mom is the opposite. I witnessed a terrible accident and stayed and helped and calmed the kids mom down when she arrived, I provided statements to the police and mike helped put a spare tire on the totalled car in attempts to get it out of the road.
Months later me and mike get subpoenaed to testify in court about what we saw in the accident. My husbands response was omg this is so cool we get to go to a courtroom and testify and my mom's reaction was "I hope you learned ur lesson and never do that again". Provided it's daytime and people are around and medics are being called I would still help but do you guys think that's also dangerous akin to offering a stranger a ride?
What if he had MetLife health insurance for a sick wife, and met up to talk about it?
It's based on him working as an EMT in Lyon? back in the Spring. Someone posted up thread about it.
Could've been doing both. Tho I wouldn't want a worn out from working two jobs EMT rolling up to save my life. I don't know how that all works. Could be he worked a few 12 shifts as en EMT on weekends, then full-time security guard during the week.
I wonder which shift he worked security at the MetLife building. I've been assuming DS and he both worked the day shift. But if he worked 2nd shift security and DS, when she works in the office, sometimes clocks long hours. From my experience working crazy hours in an office setting, you get to know the cleaning people and security people a little better if you're one of a handful of employees still in office at 8 pm at night than if you/they are both there when the place is full of other worker-bees. I could see them striking up more of a "friends only" relationship in those circumstances.
If you go to the FDS page, scroll to the fourth post down and click on the woman's post you see there (it's from Friday night). Read the comments and you'll find that Danielle's own father hadn't yet seen the report about a security guard. Someone else mentions the security guard and he asks for a link. He then says LE hadn't told him anything specific about a security guard. So it would seem this was as much a surprise to him as it was to anyone else.
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Problem is not many scenarios make any sense because she was off schedule. The only one that does it that she intended to see him and something went wrong and he snapped . Angry she didn't accept his advances? She was helping with his wife?
I live not too far from where DS lives and I admit to having stopped to help a stranger and driving the stranger to the gas station. My fiance offered the woman, without asking me...My mom was furious with me to which I replied that the woman seemed perfectly normal...in reality she spent her time in our vehicle on the phone with a friend and I did as well (my husband was driving), I think she was nervous like I was and we both had a friend on the line just in case but it was still stupid of me. My husband mike and I were like 22 at the time. I couldn't convince mike that he shouldn't ever do that, that he wasn't invincible and yet A few years later he saw a man walking with a gas can in hand in scorching hot temperatures and mike was by himself this time. He offered the man a ride to get gas and the guy was so appreciative that after mike refused to accept money for helping him, we discovered later that the man had thrown the $20 mike refused into the side of the passenger door lol. He took that to mean he did the right thing, I took it as he got so very lucky because plenty of so called "harmless looking soccer dads" are probably bad people but people make snap judgement, that "oh they don't look like a murderer" what the heck lol that kind of thinking leads people here
For all the good stories there's horrifying stories and I would now never ever risk such a thing. I will stop at car accidents to offer help or a phone in daylight but even that I have only done once since mike passed 11 months ago, it isn't worth the risk period. It's hard to ignore my instinct to help people. My mom is the opposite. I witnessed a terrible accident and stayed and helped and calmed the kids mom down when she arrived, I provided statements to the police and mike helped put a spare tire on the totalled car in attempts to get it out of the road.
Months later me and mike get subpoenaed to testify in court about what we saw in the accident. My husbands response was omg this is so cool we get to go to a courtroom and testify and my mom's reaction was "I hope you learned ur lesson and never do that again". Provided it's daytime and people are around and medics are being called I would still help but do you guys think that's also dangerous akin to offering a stranger a ride?
Ok, so he sat around the parking lot at her work, waiting for her to leave? As she left about 30 minutes early that day compared to her regular schedule. Just chillin in your car outside a busy office building on a Friday late afternoon, lotta people likely busting out of work early at that time. And if he worked there/once worked there, peeps leaving work might be all friendly and wave or walk up to chat. But no biggie, just be like Can't talk now, I got an abduction to do.
Also, an office building with security. which I assume one part of their job would be to note anyone just hanging out in the parking lot for no particular reason for extended periods of time. If trouble's gonna come to an office building (disgruntled ex/current employee or whatever), it's going to come from the parking area.
Or sit around her apartment complex parking lot for an hour or hours. Cuz those IG Apt dwellers don't notice anything, apparently.
and then do a daytime involuntary violent abduction.
a stalking, involuntary, violent, daytime abduction that he so far gotten away with. No one heard any loud yells for help or thrashing or saw anything. That's a lot of luck and happenstance to make happen. And in a tight time window that's outside her normal routine.
This dude's good.
Instead of ruling out the possibility that there could have been a witness - FG called a friend for a ride, ordered an Uber, whatever- because we all think we would have heard about it, maybe we should consider the possibility that that might be HOW the police have seemingly been aware of much more than we realized since the beginning.
Uber driver, friend, whoever, sees DS is missing, realizes gave someone a ride from DS building the night she was last seen, calls it in. Police have had POI since that weekend and have been connecting the dots ever since.
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