MI MI - Eric Franks, 40, Buena Vista Twp, 21 March 2011 - #1

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Did he have contact more than once with the daughter that you know of? Or do you believe she actually only saw him the one time?
 
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And why in the world would Eric and fg need to rent somewhere if he was already renting somewhere? FG's husband needs to get his story straight!
 
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Did he have contact more than once with the daughter that you know of? Or do you believe she actually only saw him the one time?
I was told by Eric that they were in the mall together and he spoke of conversations with her and exchanging Christmas gifts. That seems to be confirmed by photos he posted. The cleaning woman at the motel said FG came on Fridays and picked Eric up to take their daughter skating at Brockway Skating Center. Eric's friends spoke of postings from Eric about FG and her children. He went there to meet this daughter he never knew about before. Why would he not spend time with her after they told the child Eric was her father. He sent photos of her to me..some obviously given to him by FG because they were of his daughter as a little child. Some of the photos were obviously current ones. I had gathered several photos of him, as a child and teen to send to him so he could show her how much they looked alike. The police told me that Eric's daughter said that Eric had a temper which just tells me that the original story that FG told Eric's family about having an argument in front of their daughter in April probably happened.
 
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So we know that child has been told to lie as well then...
 
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And why in the world would Eric and fg need to rent somewhere if he was already renting somewhere? FG's husband needs to get his story straight!
This was when one of Eric's family members talked to FG's husband after Eric vanished. The family member mentioned that Eric had posted about painting and fixing up a house and about FG posting about water issues. That's when he made that statement. I don't understand the way he talked to Eric's relative ( a total stranger )about his own wife, but from what the police told us, it was a strange relationship. Photos of them together in their new location say otherwise. I wish they would both get their stories straight and tell what really happened.
 
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Yes but if they get their story straight they will both be :jail:
 
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So we know that child has been told to lie as well then...
It sure makes us wonder. I would love to talk to her someday and tell her how happy Eric was to know about her and what a difference she would have made in his life if he could have helped raise her from birth. I told just that to FG .I only talked to FG twice and the second time I think she was irritated that I called and let me know she would call me if she heard from Eric.
 
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Eric has been listed on CUE's website! Thank you, Monica Caison!
http://www.ncmissingpersons.org/eric-franks/
"Details of Disappearance:
Eric went to Saginaw MI to reconnect with a former girlfriend and meet his 15 year old daughter that said girlfriend had not told him about. He was there about five months when he and his car disappeared. Police told the family that former girlfriend had Eric’s cell phone and used it after Eric had disappeared. Hotel owner where Eric lived says former girlfriend removed Eric’s belongings from room and Eric was not present. His car remains unsolved in regards to his disappearance."
 
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So we know that child has been told to lie as well then...

ITA. The mother sounds like a scam artist and usually they get their start by scamming welfare. It's possible he was lured to Michigan in order to obtain his identity so that a household could be set up in his name to obtain welfare benefits.

A call to HHS with her name, the daughter's name and Eric's SS# should set the wheels in motion for an investigation into her agenda.

JMO
 
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It sure makes us wonder. I would love to talk to her someday and tell her how happy Eric was to know about her and what a difference she would have made in his life if he could have helped raise her from birth. I told just that to FG .I only talked to FG twice and the second time I think she was irritated that I called and let me know she would call me if she heard from Eric.

There is something very wrong there, in my opinion. Even if it was a complete stranger, it would be a very coldhearted person who'd get irritated at a mom seeking support to find her missing child, for just the second time.

It seems terrible also, that anyone would drag their child into such a strange situation - suddenly revealing and introducing them to a father they never knew, then just as suddenly forgetting all about him, when he mysteriously disappears. And leaving town, in fact.

I don't think Eric's disappearance can 'go away' until he is found, and all the miles in the world aren't far enough to get away from that. Somebody has to have more information and then they need to come forward and talk to police now, before it's too late.
 
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ITA. The mother sounds like a scam artist and usually they get their start by scamming welfare. It's possible he was lured to Michigan in order to obtain his identity so that a household could be set up in his name to obtain welfare benefits.

A call to HHS with her name, the daughter's name and Eric's SS# should set the wheels in motion for an investigation into her agenda.

JMO
Eric's family was told by an extremely reliable source in the Saginaw area that research they did revealed what you just mentioned ,MyBelle, only it was S.S. benefits. I know this source is in touch with state police, so I don't know what is being done to look into this.
 
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If that's the case then we know she has his social securitt. Have you ran a free credit report on that?
 
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There is something very wrong there, in my opinion. Even if it was a complete stranger, it would be a very coldhearted person who'd get irritated at a mom seeking support to find her missing child, for just the second time.

It seems terrible also, that anyone would drag their child into such a strange situation - suddenly revealing and introducing them to a father they never knew, then just as suddenly forgetting all about him, when he mysteriously disappears. And leaving town, in fact.

I don't think Eric's disappearance can 'go away' until he is found, and all the miles in the world aren't far enough to get away from that. Somebody has to have more information and then they need to come forward and talk to police now, before it's too late.
I totally agree. One of my sisters first got in touch with FG's husband and talked to him twice. Then he put my sister in touch with FG and they had a conversation once. My sister asked her to call me and she did ...giving me the exact same story she had given my sister. I truly believe she thought it would appease us to say that she and Eric had a fight and he left for CA, she thought. (The story she gave my sister and was never told to BV police. Maybe it would have been except for the motel owner giving his side of the story.) I called her back once. As Eric's mom, I asked detailed questions and was given detailed answers. FG NEVER once told me that Eric had befriended the motel owner and the housekeeper and had met some men in his work at another motel owned by the brother of Millers Motel's owner. (Those men told police they remembered Eric, but had not seen him since they worked together earlier.) I was so worried and asked FG if Eric had money for gas to CA and if not, did she help him out. She said she didn't have any money to give him and she KNEW OF NO ONE he might have befriended..... when all along she KNEW about the motel owner's friendship with Eric and the housekeeper. It was hard to think that maybe he ran out of gas and some stranger killed him and took his car. I pictured Eric giving his last dollar to a total stranger that needed it. ( The motel owner and the housekeeper told me later and I assume told the police that FG told the housekeeper to "stay away from Eric".) It wasn't until we got that Nov. 22,2011 email that was suppose to be from Eric that our family ruled out a total stranger hurting Eric.
 
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If that's the case then we know she has his social securitt. Have you ran a free credit report on that?
This information was only given to family recently and it involved a lawyer who knew what he was talking about. I would think the BV police would have found it out because the lead investigator told me he had a friend in the FBI whom he had search for Eric's SS# being used. When I called the FBI in Saginaw later (I talked to FBI several times trying to get them to help.) I was told they knew nothing about that contact between FBI and BV police. I since have tried to get state police and FBI to work together. The FBI could easily find out info we can't. It has been and continues to be very frustrating. This is my child that's missing. This is a human being that's missing.
 
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Eric's family was told by an extremely reliable source in the Saginaw area that research they did revealed what you just mentioned ,MyBelle, only it was S.S. benefits. I know this source is in touch with state police, so I don't know what is being done to look into this.

My concern is that Eric was lured there in order to obtain his personal ID information. You can call Social Security directly and report it. Call Health and Human Services in both states and give them her name, Eric's name and SS #. Don't rely on a source who may or may not have reported it to police.
 
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Is it possible that FG was attempting to make it appear that the interaction between her, Eric and the child was minimal? And that the things Eric claimed were all in his head? That's how it seems to me - not that Eric was lying but that she was able to convince people that was the case. Purporting to be the truth by posting on FB isn't verification and she, correctly, assumed that she would be believed when he "left" instead of his convos with family and FB postings.

It's so bizarre because had I heard of this prior I woulda said, there is no way anyone would believe the out-of-state moving ex, over the now missing Eric!

And yet, she was right. So far. The truth has a way of coming to light...


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Zwiebel, what you said about "all the miles in the world aren't enough to get away from that" reminds me of the thing that keeps bothering me about the police investigation maybe as much as anything....after 4 members of Eric's family went to Saginaw and did an interview on the local news there, one of Eric's friends and a FB friend of Eric and FG saw the news report and called the BV police and emailed some important information to the police. This friend said he "talked" to FG on FB and said Eric was one of his best friends and if she hurt him that there is no place on earth that she can hide...that he would find her. He asked her if she killed him and she said no and that she could prove it and as far as we know, she has never been asked to prove (or even explain what she meant). He knew her statements told on the news about Eric leaving in March for CA was not what she had told him back in June of 2011. This friend had not heard from Eric in a little while and asked FG if Eric was ok. She told him yes, that he was well and with her and she would tell Eric to get in touch with his friend. He never heard from Eric. FG has placed Eric alive and there in Saginaw in MARCH, APRIL, MAY and JUNE. The original missing report in OH says she told them she had told me she last saw Eric in April and last talked to him in May when she posted prom photos and Eric replied to them. Then when the motel owner told what he saw happen, FG said in March she helped Eric move from the motel. The BV police asked me did I know why she lies. He said because she drinks!!!! I want her to be questioned again and again until she tells the truth! Just hold back the alcohol and maybe that way she can speak the truth we are all waiting to hear!!
 
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Is it possible that FG was attempting to make it appear that the interaction between her, Eric and the child was minimal? And that the things Eric claimed were all in his head? That's how it seems to me - not that Eric was lying but that she was able to convince people that was the case. Purporting to be the truth by posting on FB isn't verification and she, correctly, assumed that she would be believed when he "left" instead of his convos with family and FB postings.

It's so bizarre because had I heard of this prior I woulda said, there is no way anyone would believe the out-of-state moving ex, over the now missing Eric!

And yet, she was right. So far. The truth has a way of coming to light...


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After Eric vanished, she told me that she "never , ever" intended to be with Eric . Yet, she posted things on FB that made Eric's friends say they were like high school sweethearts. One of Eric's closest friends says posts and pictures were deleted. That friend says FG was "hot then cold" .The motel owner said they were either in love or really good friends. He had seen them hugging and she came almost every day and stayed a couple of hours. She said things to me and to the motel owner and housekeeper indicating she was jealous of any friendships of Eric's with other women or even his wife. FG's husband told Eric's aunt that his sister overheard FG talking romantically to Eric on the phone. FG's husband told police he knew his wife was "seeing Eric". He had lots to say against his wife to family and police. I hope you are right and the truth comes to light in this life. I might add that no one says they believe her!!
 
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It is actually public record. That's where one of Eric's family members found it. She googled FG's name and found info about SS misuse. Then a person close to the case in Saginaw told about scam information. Some of you have already found things our family hadn't found. Please call and inform the state police. Thanks.
 
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ITA. The mother sounds like a scam artist and usually they get their start by scamming welfare. It's possible he was lured to Michigan in order to obtain his identity so that a household could be set up in his name to obtain welfare benefits.

A call to HHS with her name, the daughter's name and Eric's SS# should set the wheels in motion for an investigation into her agenda.

JMO
Eric posted that FG had a plan. He said he didn't understand it at first. She told Eric before he went to Saginaw that she and her husband didn't live together as husband and wife. That was a similar story FG's husband told police. Eric talked to me about how she was going to arrange things so she could keep her favorite business, the Adult Care Facility. He posted that it would take about 2 years. Her husband told one of Eric's family members that his wife was trying to take their house and businesses away and he put one of the businesses in his sister's name. Yet, they were renting the house they lived in when they moved out of state, so that one couldn't be taken away. As stated before, he did speak to Eric's family member of owning a house further up north and was going to sell it.
 
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