MI, Grand Blanc - Mass Shooting at Mormon Church, fire, 28 Sept 2025

[Dotta]

Grand Blanc church shooting: 3 dead, multiple wounded at Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

Police said the suspect rammed a vehicle through the front doors of the church before opening fire on people worshipping.

www.fox2detroit.com

3 dead including shooter

Did all manage to escape the fire?
It is ground floor so people can escape through windows,
and there are many of them in this building.
Although,
in panic stampede/trampling might occur.

JMO

 

[Inthedetails]

Did all manage to escape the fire?
It is ground floor so people can escape through windows,
and there are many of them.
Although in panic stampede might occur.

JMO

At the presser, LE said they expected to find bodies of people who were upstairs and unable to escape the fire. We'll know more at the 5pm presser, I'm assuming.

jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

Suspect named in MSM:

The deranged madman who killed at least two people and injured nine others at a Michigan Latter-day Saints church, torching the building and opening fire on fleeing congregants and their families, has been identified as 40-year-old Thomas Jacob Sanford, The Post can confirm.

Exclusive | Iraq War veteran Thomas Sanford ID’d as gunman who attacked Grand Blanc LDS church, killing 4 and setting it ablaze

The deranged madman who killed at least four people and injured eight others at a Michigan Latter-day Saints church, torching the building and opening fire on fleeing congregants and their families…

nypost.com

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

... I am without words ... what on earth is happening in our world? And what can we do to stop the insanity?
This act of violence has me destroyed. I pray for the victims ... for their families ... for the LDS community and for all of man/woman kind. How on earth to we find peace ... this is heartbreaking!
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I had to take a break from the thread for a while and watched a Bette Davis movie. It has gotten to the point where I'm almost afraid to turn on a news program or read a newspaper because there is so much violence being reported. I'm 75 years old and am shocked and saddened by what is going on around the world. Thankfully, most of my life is in the rearview mirror, and I'm glad that I grew up in an era when these mass shootings weren't happening on an almost daily basis.

 

[Warwick1991]

Do we know how old the building is? Im looking in MI databases and they want money

If it's an older building, perhaps they didn't have fire sprinklers. It's probably similar to many other church buildings in the US of the same age. We don't know what kind of fire protection the church had. But all responsibility ultimately belongs to the attacker.

 

[Inthedetails]

Suspect named in MSM:

The deranged madman who killed at least two people and injured nine others at a Michigan Latter-day Saints church, torching the building and opening fire on fleeing congregants and their families, has been identified as 40-year-old Thomas Jacob Sanford, The Post can confirm.

Exclusive | Iraq War veteran Thomas Sanford ID’d as gunman who attacked Grand Blanc LDS church, killing 4 and setting it ablaze

The deranged madman who killed at least four people and injured eight others at a Michigan Latter-day Saints church, torching the building and opening fire on fleeing congregants and their families…

nypost.com

ETA, from same link:

Law enforcement sources confirmed that Sanford, from nearby Burton, Michigan, is the lone suspect.

 

[Elley Mae]

Exclusive | Iraq War veteran Thomas Sanford ID’d as gunman who attacked Grand Blanc LDS church, killing 4 and setting it ablaze

The deranged madman who killed at least four people and injured eight others at a Michigan Latter-day Saints church, torching the building and opening fire on fleeing congregants and their families…

nypost.com

 

[sasha17]

Suspect named in MSM:

The deranged madman who killed at least two people and injured nine others at a Michigan Latter-day Saints church, torching the building and opening fire on fleeing congregants and their families, has been identified as 40-year-old Thomas Jacob Sanford, The Post can confirm.

Exclusive | Iraq War veteran Thomas Sanford ID’d as gunman who attacked Grand Blanc LDS church, killing 4 and setting it ablaze

The deranged madman who killed at least four people and injured eight others at a Michigan Latter-day Saints church, torching the building and opening fire on fleeing congregants and their families…

nypost.com

"Sanford, a US Marine veteran... served in Iraq from 2004-2008... Social media accounts believed to be connected to Sanford show he’s a family man, with a wife and young son."

Last night's shooter in North Carolina was also a Marine who served in Iraq during those same years.

 

[rsteen]

"Sanford, a US Marine veteran... served in Iraq from 2004-2008... Social media accounts believed to be connected to Sanford show he’s a family man, with a wife and young son."

Last night's shooter in North Carolina was also a Marine who served in Iraq during those same years.

I hope his wife and little boy are safe.

 

[vls12345]

Families wait to reunite following Michigan church shooting

About two dozen family members waited anxiously Sunday afternoon to be reunited with those involved in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints shooting.

www.mlive.com

 

[Knox]

"Sanford, a US Marine veteran... served in Iraq from 2004-2008... Social media accounts believed to be connected to Sanford show he’s a family man, with a wife and young son."

Last night's shooter in North Carolina was also a Marine who served in Iraq during those same years.

My son also served in Iraq (Army), hence my name here at WS. He was stop lossed twice. That was a difficult time for our family.

I’m holding all the LDS church members and his wife in my thoughts. This is a horrible attack, I can’t imagine how they will be able to reconcile what happened to them today.

 

[vls12345]

2nd person dies after shooting at Michigan church, police say

Grand Blanc Township Police Chief Wiliam Renye said a second person died at a local hospital after being shot earlier in the day at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 4285 McCandlish Road.

www.mlive.com

 

[justtrish]

"Sanford, a US Marine veteran... served in Iraq from 2004-2008... Social media accounts believed to be connected to Sanford show he’s a family man, with a wife and young son."

Last night's shooter in North Carolina was also a Marine who served in Iraq during those same years.

I'm curious if these 2 men knew each other. I'm sure they will be looking at their online activity, but even if they didn't know each other I wonder if it's possible they met online in some way maybe bonding over prior service and being Marines who served in Iraq.

 

[angelainwi]

Presser starting in 5 minutes

 

[Knox]

Local news story from 2007 about Jake.

‘We are very proud of him? - Clarkston News

Atlas Twp.-Since his graduation from Goodrich High School in 2003, Thomas ‘Jake? Sanford, has been a Marine on the move’from a stint in Okinawa, Japan, to earning honors on the rifle range, to achieving the rank of sergeant’Jake’s military career has been stellar. Now the 22-year-old Atlas...

clarkstonnews.com

 

[Betty P]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1972335560758120582

I’ve seen trucks with flags like that in my area. Shady.

 

[Knox]

 

[Knox]

 

[Betty P]

I cannot recall someone deliberately starting a massive fire like this in a building full of people, except on 9/11/2001. It takes some effort and planning to start such an inferno, IMO.

Well, he’s a veteran of the U.S. Marines who served in Iraq. Maybe he learned how to start fires there. He may have also brought something with him, such as a homemade bomb.

 

[Knox]

Well, he’s a veteran of the U.S. Marines who served in Iraq. Maybe he learned how to start fires there. He may have also brought something with him, such as a homemade bomb.

IED’s were found in his truck at the scene.