MI MI - James 'Jimmy' Hoffa, 62, Bloomfield Hills, 30 July 1975

[meanmaryjean]

Whoever / However / Wherever disappeared Hoffa did a good job, I'll give em that.

 

[Jmoose]

Whoever / However / Wherever disappeared Hoffa did a good job, I'll give em that.

I think it’s not so hard to hide a body, when the world is such a big place-I am far more impressed by the fact that absolutely none of the people involved, blabbed.

 

[Soulmagent]

They would have someone they trusted to witness the murder or at least disposal of the body.

JMO, that’s why the quick murder not far from the abduction site followed by cremation at the local funeral home is the most likely story. No one needed to risk driving him hundreds of miles to bury him in a very public location.

Wgat if ...They drove his head to NJ. Not his body. His head had to be witnessed on the east coast.

 

[Joe Friday]

They would have someone they trusted to witness the murder or at least disposal of the body.

JMO, that’s why the quick murder not far from the abduction site followed by cremation at the local funeral home is the most likely story. No one needed to risk driving him hundreds of miles to bury him in a very public location.

Back in those days, cremation was not that common and local funeral homes didn't have the capabilities to cremate bodies on site, like many do today.

Not sure what the chances would be of who ever killed Hoffa knowing someone that could cremate a body and be trusted not to disclose what had happened. Perhaps the Mafia had connections with someone that did run a creation service and that is how his body was disposed of, anything is possible. Would be interesting to know how many business offered cremation services in the Detroit area in 1975, and if any were run by known Mafia members.

Would be much easier to place his body in a automobile and then run the car through an automobile shredder or dump his body in a landfill. The Mafia had connections to both those type of business.

JMO

 

[Soulmagent]

Back in those days, cremation was not that common and local funeral homes didn't have the capabilities to cremate bodies on site, like many do today.

Not sure what the chances would be of who ever killed Hoffa knowing someone that could cremate a body and be trusted not to disclose what had happened. Perhaps the Mafia had connections with someone that did run a creation service and that is how his body was disposed of, anything is possible. Would be interesting to know how many business offered cremation services in the Detroit area in 1975, and if any were run by known Mafia members.

Would be much easier to place his body in a automobile and then run the car through an automobile shredder or dump his body in a landfill. The Mafia had connections to both those type of business.

JMO

NJ - NJ - Tinton Falls, UnkSex/UnkRace/Adult. UP12124. Skull in landfill, distinctive scar. August 1976.
I called this in , I believe this is all that is left of James Riddle Hoffa. But I truly believe this is his head.
https://www.waste360.com/landfill/fbi-searches-for-jimmy-hoffa-in-jersey-city-landfill

 

[PGHJW]

I think it’s not so hard to hide a body, when the world is such a big place-I am far more impressed by the fact that absolutely none of the people involved, blabbed.

I think it's more far common than people want to give credit for. A quote like "Three may keep a secret if two of them are dead" is chatter to sound clever. It depends on the people involved. Low level criminals and local types aren't going to keep a secret. That hayseed that killed Becky Sue Gritters back in '68? Yeah, he talked about it at the bar all the time. What else did he have in life? Nothing. Others capable of murder have far different lives and more to live for. I list it right along with "If he killed once, he killed again. They don't just stop." Yes, they do. We've seen it many times.

 

[Friday Fan]

NJ - NJ - Tinton Falls, UnkSex/UnkRace/Adult. UP12124. Skull in landfill, distinctive scar. August 1976.
I called this in , I believe this is all that is left of James Riddle Hoffa. But I truly believe this is his head.
https://www.waste360.com/landfill/fbi-searches-for-jimmy-hoffa-in-jersey-city-landfill

If they have DNA they can compare.
I don't know if dentals were compared with Hoffa's.
I can't find out anything more about this skull.
It's not in Doe Network, so it hasn't gained much traction.

 

[Soulmagent]

If they have DNA they can compare.
I don't know if dentals were compared with Hoffa's.
I can't find out anything more about this skull.
It's not in Doe Network, so it hasn't gained much traction.

So , yeah

 

[Soulmagent]

If they have DNA they can compare.
I don't know if dentals were compared with Hoffa's.
I can't find out anything more about this skull.
It's not in Doe Network, so it hasn't gained much traction.

So I guess i sit here , with my hands? in my head? N sure where to go next.

 

[Friday Fan]

So I guess i sit here , with my hands? in my head? N sure where to go next.

If you have registered with NAMUS you can check to see if there are any ruleouts. Unfortunately, I let my login expire and I rarely used it. The login is kinda quirky, however it's times like this I wish I had kept up with it. Usually someone comes along and lists the rule outs, so I don't have to. However, this case has not gained any traction anywhere.

 

[snarast]

So I guess i sit here , with my hands? in my head? N sure where to go next.

Is there someone who would care about this who might matter?

Journalists, politicians or even Hoffas? It sounds like a nice thing for your upcoming president to get done on his first day - or rather 1461:th day - at the office?

What I’m saying is - the messenger is important. A guy or even bunch of them on a webforum ain’t gonna cut it.

And then this might just be a coincidence, a textbook case of confirmation bias. It certainly feels like a joke…

 

[Soulmagent]

If you have registered with NAMUS you can check to see if there are any ruleouts. Unfortunately, I let my login expire and I rarely used it. The login is kinda quirky, however it's times like this I wish I had kept up with it. Usually someone comes along and lists the rule outs, so I don't have to. However, this case has not gained any traction anywhere.

Well , we will have to wait a watch I suppose. Wink wink .

 

[Angelcat13]

Back in those days, cremation was not that common and local funeral homes didn't have the capabilities to cremate bodies on site, like many do today.

Not sure what the chances would be of who ever killed Hoffa knowing someone that could cremate a body and be trusted not to disclose what had happened. Perhaps the Mafia had connections with someone that did run a creation service and that is how his body was disposed of, anything is possible. Would be interesting to know how many business offered cremation services in the Detroit area in 1975, and if any were run by known Mafia members.

Would be much easier to place his body in a automobile and then run the car through an automobile shredder or dump his body in a landfill. The Mafia had connections to both those type of business.

JMO

Or bury it with another body in that person’s coffin? (But, of course, we all know he lies in the Pine Barrens!)

 

[Jmoose]

Or bury it with another body in that person’s coffin? (But, of course, we all know he lies in the Pine Barrens!)

Or in the Meadowlands!

 

[Soulmagent]

I know , it sounds like lunacy . I still think Hoffa's head sits on that shelf.

 

[Soulmagent]

The site in Jersey City where it is believed the F.B.I. visited as part of its investigation into the disappearance of the union boss Jimmy Hoffa.Credit...Bryan Anselm for The New York Times

Search for Jimmy Hoffa Leads the F.B.I. to Jersey City Landfill
''A deathbed statement by a man who claimed to bury the Teamster boss’ body in a steel drum brought agents to the site for an inspection.''
Nov. 19, 2021, 11:59 a.m. ET
''The disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa, a mystery that has gripped the American imagination for half a century on its ascent to national folklore, is the subject of a new F.B.I. investigation centered on the site of a former landfill in Jersey City. A worker, on his deathbed, said he buried the body underground in a steel drum.

F.B.I. agents armed with a search warrant arrived in Jersey City at a plot of dirt and gravel the size of a Little League diamond below the Pulaski Skyway on Oct. 25 and 26 to conduct a “site survey,” according to the Detroit field office, which has led the investigation into Mr. Hoffa’s disappearance in 1975. The steel drum is said to be buried about 15 feet below ground, in the shadow of countless millions of drivers who have passed it by.

“F.B.I. personnel from the Newark and Detroit field offices completed the survey and that data is currently being analyzed,” Special Agent Mara R. Schneider, a spokeswoman, said on Thursday. The formal statement did not mention Mr. Hoffa by name and did not elaborate on a timeline for any potential excavation.''

 

[Soulmagent]

If they have DNA they can compare.
I don't know if dentals were compared with Hoffa's.
I can't find out anything more about this skull.
It's not in Doe Network, so it hasn't gained much traction.

I cant either and I made phone calls. I got a couple emails that said a bunch of nothing . I really want to social fund the identity of this head.

 

[seracherofthetruth1973]

Back in those days, cremation was not that common and local funeral homes didn't have the capabilities to cremate bodies on site, like many do today.

Not sure what the chances would be of who ever killed Hoffa knowing someone that could cremate a body and be trusted not to disclose what had happened. Perhaps the Mafia had connections with someone that did run a creation service and that is how his body was disposed of, anything is possible. Would be interesting to know how many business offered cremation services in the Detroit area in 1975, and if any were run by known Mafia members.

Would be much easier to place his body in a automobile and then run the car through an automobile shredder or dump his body in a landfill. The Mafia had connections to both those type of business.

JMO

ive seen where the week before hoffa disaperaed there was an 8 part written thing in the news paper exposing the mafia and others of taking pension funds and other things. maybe the mafia thought hoffa ratted them out. and the two mobsters that he supposidly was to meet at the restaruant set him up and never showed. instead they sent at least one person he trusted to pick him up and exicute and get rid of the body. we all know those who crosses the mafia disapears. theres also the possibility of the president at the time having him "put down" for not keeping the agreement of him being pardened. im wondering what others think about my therories.

 

[PGHJW]

If anything this case disproves the old adage that I've always felt has hindered a lot of cases: "More then one person can't keep a secret."

They most certainly can, especially when it comes to protecting their own lives/livelihood.

 

[Betty P]

If anything this case disproves the old adage that I've always felt has hindered a lot of cases: "More then one person can't keep a secret."

They most certainly can, especially when it comes to protecting their own lives/livelihood.

JMO, the secret being kept may also be due to very few people involved in the planning and execution. The fewer who know, the less likely the information leaks.