GUILTY MI - Jane Bashara, 56, dies in contract killing, Grosse Pointe Park, 25 Jan 2012 #5

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  • #401
Thank you Darkman00, nice to know you're around!

On the subject of bb's daughter, the comments made are the lowest of low imo.
My heart goes out to her.

On the topic of polio, the disease still exists in parts of Asia and Africa (had to look it up because I didn't realize it hadn't been eradicated).
Of course, any type of charity bb put effort into was for show only. It is unlikely he cares about the suffering of other people

http://www.cdc.gov/features/poliofacts/

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/diseases-thought-eradicated-reappear-u-s/


Here we have an example of the character of a true sociopath ~ the sheep in wolf's clothing type.

Is it me, or does this trial seem like a joke? I mean, why bother?

I'm surprised to learn about the effort of TG over at the Hinky Meter as I wasn't aware of it before (or TG herself).
TG's willingness to be someone's slave at the level she described, is dangerous too. Good thing for her that she wasn't given a more direct role to assist in killing Jane.
It seems to me, RG had no foreknowledge about bb's cruel plans for Jane.

Learning that bb gave TG money to pay her Vet and utility bills, gave me another reason to despise the guy. Especially after seeing his salary history. He spent Jane's money on other women and his alt lifestyle dealings.

How much longer? Does anybody see any possible out for bb at all?

Woe - I agree w/you on everything posted above. This trial is a joke - and that judge doesn't help the situation. Considering the usual 4 - 4-1/2 hr. days, I doubt the trial will end before January -- seriously. It's ridiculous. As for any possible out for BB? As horrible as it may be for us to imagine -- yes. Remember OJ Simpson? Casey Anthony? You just NEVER know what a jury's gonna do. He deserves to rot in **** as far as I'm concerned.

On a side note -- how's your puppy doing?
 
  • #402
George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 6h6 hours ago Detroit, MI
During Bob's prelim, Young testified that DNA from Gentz and Jane were found under one of her fingernails.





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Mandi Wright ‏@DetroitMandi 5h5 hours ago
Jane Bashara's steering wheel may contain DNA of her and Joseph Gentz. #bobbashara
 
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  • #404
Darkman - thanks, again, for all you do. Do you go to the trial every day?
 
  • #405
^^

Nope ... just whenever I can.
 
  • #406
Woe - I agree w/you on everything posted above. This trial is a joke - and that judge doesn't help the situation. Considering the usual 4 - 4-1/2 hr. days, I doubt the trial will end before January -- seriously. It's ridiculous. As for any possible out for BB? As horrible as it may be for us to imagine -- yes. Remember OJ Simpson? Casey Anthony? You just NEVER know what a jury's gonna do. He deserves to rot in **** as far as I'm concerned.

On a side note -- how's your puppy doing?

She hasn't had any more seizures - thank goodness. There is a little snack, those little salty beefy things, that she was getting a few times a day after she went out.
She's diabetic and we weren't aware that salt is an enemy. We need the biologist to explain exactly what can happen but, in a nutshell, salt can cause water to collect in a dog's brain (the water tries to flush the salt out but can't do it fast enough).
This process can cause a dog to have a seizure (she fell over on her side first, like dead, and then jerked for a very short time). We quit giving her snacks, especially those containing salt. We were buying these $$$ cinnamon bones (Vet approved) but our Vet quit carrying them recently. In error, we replaced those with ones that are bad for her.
We're keeping our fingers crossed that the salty snacks caused the problem. So far so good!

Thank you for your concern Grammy. :blowkiss:
 
  • #407
Wednesday, November 12, 2014, the fifteenth day of testimony. Three witnesses took the stand today.


First, returning witness No. 38, Therese Giffin, considered herself a good friend of bb's and was a participant in the BDSM lifestyle.

Second, the 41st witness, Melinda Jackson, a DNA Expert with the Michigan State Police.

Third, the 42nd witness overall, Andrea Young, a Forensic Scientist in the Biology Unit with the Michigan State Police.


http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/bashara-trial-witness-talks-dungeon-dna/29682308

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2014/11/12/bob-bashara-trial-murder/18915325/

http://www.wmyt12.com/story/27370797/csi-investigators-share-dna-evidence-found-in-bashara-trial


I'm unable to find the link to the testimony covering November 12th.
 
  • #408
She hasn't had any more seizures - thank goodness. There is a little snack, those little salty beefy things, that she was getting a few times a day after she went out.
She's diabetic and we weren't aware that salt is an enemy. We need the biologist to explain exactly what can happen but, in a nutshell, salt can cause water to collect in a dog's brain (the water tries to flush the salt out but can't do it fast enough).
This process can cause a dog to have a seizure (she fell over on her side first, like dead, and then jerked for a very short time). We quit giving her snacks, especially those containing salt. We were buying these $$$ cinnamon bones (Vet approved) but our Vet quit carrying them recently. In error, we replaced those with ones that are bad for her.
We're keeping our fingers crossed that the salty snacks caused the problem. So far so good!

Thank you for your concern Grammy. :blowkiss:

I'm SO happy she's okay...I was afraid to ask earlier. I know what it's like giving a dog something you shouldn't -- I once took the skin off KFC chicken & gave it to my Airedale. 3 hours later she had horrible stomach/intestinal problem. Rushed her to vet & was told it was from the chicken - diagnosis was pancreatitis & she was on IV for 2 days. OMG it was horrible -- and I caused it! Our dogs get very little table scraps anymore :) Give her a hug from Mary (and Maizie, our Goldendoodle)!
 
  • #409
thanks everyone for the continuing updates and coverage. I may not thank your posts, but I read them all. THANK YOU!!!!

Justice for JANE.

Ditto thanks !

Sent from my SCH-S720C using Tapatalk 2
 
  • #410
George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 2h2 hours ago Detroit, MI
Bob just lumbered in. He told judge: "The bright light is not as bad. I did, however, leave my reading glasses, but I'll muddle through."





  1. marie osborne ‏@marieosbornewwj 2h2 hours ago
  2. #bobbashara tells judge he left his reading glasses at jail. Judge offered to send someone to get them.@WWJ950 pic.twitter.com/5sXwM8cdqI
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  1. George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 2h2 hours ago Detroit, MI
  2. The judge offered to have someone retrieve his reading glasses from the jail, but Bob declined.
 
  • #411
Young continues where she left yesterday ...



George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 2h2 hours ago Detroit, MI
1st Witness: Andrea Young, MSP forensic investigator

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 2h2 hours ago Detroit, MI
Young said it's impossible to tell how long DNA has been on an item.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 2h2 hours ago Detroit, MI Bob's attorney Lillian Diallo: "Am I shedding DNA as I speak?"
Judge: "Don't shed it on Mr. Muscat (assistant prosecutor)"

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 2h2 hours ago Detroit, MI Photo of stains on the Basharas' garage floor being shown.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 2h2 hours ago Detroit, MI Young is finished testifying.

2nd Witness: Kenneth Allen GPP Building Inspector

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 2h2 hours ago Detroit, MI His title is Building and Electrical Inspector


marie osborne ‏@marieosbornewwj 2h2 hours ago Kenneth Allen building inspector for Grosse Point Park .#bobbashara pic.twitter.com/wD43JUrEg5

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  • #412
George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 2h2 hours ago Detroit, MI
Allen's job is to inspect for safety violations and property maintenance; along with electrical inspections.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 2h2 hours ago Detroit, MI
Allen met Bob multiple times on inspections of his properties.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 2h2 hours ago Detroit, MI A photo of the building that housed Dylan's, the Hard Luck Lounge, and the dungeon in the basement, is being shown.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 2h2 hours ago Detroit, MI The two-story building takes up an entire block, at Mack and Nottingham in Grosse Pointe Park.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 2h2 hours ago Detroit, MI The first floor of the building are bars and storefronts, some empty. On the 2nd floor are apartments. And we know what was in the basement.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 2h2 hours ago Detroit, MI
Allen said he never inspected the basement.
Judge: "I'm just curious: Don''t they have circuit breakers in the basement area?"

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 2h2 hours ago Detroit, MI Judge "Why wouldn't you check the basement to see if they're installed properly?"
Allen said sometimes basements are locked

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 2h2 hours ago Detroit, MI Allen also inspected Bob and Rachel's planned love nest, the house on Kensington, a few blocks from Bob's family home
 
  • #413
George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
Diallo: "When you did see Bob that particular day, he never mentioned Rachel Gillett; shacking up w another woman?""Correct."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
Allen is done. Today's 3rd witness: William Shatz, who rented an apartment from Bob in St. Clair Shores


marie osborne ‏@marieosbornewwj 1h1 hour ago Next witness William Schatz. He lived in #bobbashara apartment. pic.twitter.com/FVFF7uCxKw

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
Schatz said he saw Bob around the apartment complex often.


George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
Schatz said Bob tried to sell him the Cadillac which was later used to pay Gentz for killing Jane.
 
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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
When shown a picture of the 1981 Cadillac, Schatz said, "hey, that's my house!"

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
Schatz paid Bob, and did odd jobs around the apartment building, to move from the 2nd to 1st floor.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI Schatz learned about the murder from the news. He said he was surprised to learn Bob was married. "He brung another woman to the apt. bldg."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI Bob held a BBQ for the tenants, and brought Rachel, whom he described as "a friend."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI Schatz learned police were looking for a Cadillac, so he called police.


Elisha Anderson ‏@elishaanderson 1h1 hour ago @DetroitMandi is not in court today. So picture of car is from my iPhone. Sorry for quality. pic.twitter.com/ffr53eWizB

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
Schatz called police 4 times, and they came out on the 4th try and took pix of the Cadillac.





marie osborne ‏@marieosbornewwj 1h1 hour ago Schatz is the one who called police (4x's)to say there was a Cadillac in parking lot@WWJ950 #bobbashara pic.twitter.com/SKQB02vG4n

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
The day after police questioned Schatz, Bob showed up.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
Bob told him: "He said I got to keep my mouth shut; I don't know him. If I don't keep my mouth shut, he's gonna throw my butt out the bldg.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI Schatz: "He said 'I didn't kill my wife.'" Schatz didn't ask Bob; he volunteered that information.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI Schatz: "He was very angry. I could see the angriness in his face."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI Schatz: "He just walked up and started saying I got to keep my mouth shut. Like an angry tone." Imitating Bob in low voice:

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI Previous testimony being read in which Schatz told prosecutors that Bob told him "You have no right to talk to detectives.."
 
  • #419
George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
"I'm tired of you running your mouth about me." And threatened to evict him if he talked to police


George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
After yelling at Schatz, Bob asked him to write a letter on his behalf.


George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
Bob and his cousin Stephanie were there when Bob asked him to write a letter. Stephanie had her laptop there


George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
Bob's cousin wrote the letter; Schatz signed it.


George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
Bob dictated the letter, his cousin typed it. Schatz said he signed it "Because I was scared to be evicted."
 
  • #420
George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
In the letter, written June 22, 2012, Schatz (actually, Bob) wrote that prosecutors and police were rude when they questioned him in Feb.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
"They wanted to know if there was a sex dungeon in Grosse Pointe, and if I ever partied there. My answer was no."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI Bob and a guy named Tommy had another conversation with Schatz in the apartment complex laundry room.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI When shown picture of Tommy, Schantz said "Whoa!" Asst. prosecutor Mark Hindelang asked why he did that, and Schantz said:
"Because I was scared of both of them. Him and Bob. Still am."
 
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