GUILTY MI - Jane Bashara, 56, dies in contract killing, Grosse Pointe Park, 25 Jan 2012 #5

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
After a short sidebar, the jury is being escorted out. I've never covered a trial where the jury is asked to leave as often as this one.


George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
Jury gone. Thomas Ramsey is Tommy. Hindelang is saying he threatened Schatz with Bob present. Diallo is arguing that this can't be entered.



George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
Tommy is dead. Diallo said she can't question him, and just because prosecutors say he threatened Schatz, it isn't necessarily true.

 

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
Judge is reading something, apparently to make a ruling on whether testimony about Tommy's threats can be allowed.


George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
Judge wants to review case law. Hindelang says at the prelim, Schatz testified that Bob agreed with everything Tommy said in threat...

 

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
So, Hindelang says, Bob wasn't just present; there's indication that Bob had a hand in the threats.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
Diallo is objecting. "I do not think this is proper...we don't have an opportunity to confront Mr. Ramsey"

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI Hindelang: "The right to confrontation is cross-examining this witness."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 1h1 hour ago Detroit, MI
10 minute recess called so judge can review the case law.

 

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 55m55 minutes ago Detroit, MI
Judge is back. She will examine Schatz outside the presence of the jury about Tommy's threats...

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 52m52 minutes ago Detroit, MI
If Bob's actions supported Thomas Ramsey's threats, then the judge will allow the jury to hear them. Schatz is coming back to the stand now

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 52m52 minutes ago Detroit, MI
Schatz being questioned about threats outside presence of the jury

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 52m52 minutes ago Detroit, MI This happened in the laundry room. Bob and Tommy were in there with him in the small room.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 51m51 minutes ago Detroit, MI Tommy told him: "I should leave Bob alone; Bob has nothing to do with his wife's murder; I should stop spreading rumors about Bob."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 51m51 minutes ago Detroit, MI "I should stop talking to police; I could be evicted."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 49m49 minutes ago Detroit, MI "(Bob) said he agreed with Tommy. He said that I should keep my mouth shut; I should not talk to the police; I should not talk to police"

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 47m47 minutes ago Detroit, MI Judge will allow jury to hear about Tommy's threats to Schatz. Jury is back now.


Gina Damron ‏@ginadamron 44m44 minutes ago William Schatz, one of Bob Bashara's former tenants, testifying today. pic.twitter.com/lMAtHXox5B

 

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 48m48 minutes ago Detroit, MI
Said he was scared “Because of the way Bob would react to people. If people would be late (on rent) he’d get mad.”

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 46m46 minutes ago Detroit, MI
Schatz said Bob would show up at the apt bldg at 3 am wearing sunglasses and "wiping his nose like he was high on something."

 

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 42m42 minutes ago Detroit, MI
Diallo reading previous statements in which Schatz said he told Stephanie what to write in the letter supporting Bob

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 42m42 minutes ago Detroit, MI
Diallo: "You told Stephanie what to write, correct?"
Schatz: "If I did, I was scared of Bob."

 

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 35m35 minutes ago Detroit, MI
Schatz: "I was scared of Bob Bashara. I was scared of prosecutors. When I see police, I'm scared."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 35m35 minutes ago Detroit, MI
Diallo: "Did one of the detectives say, 'Listen here, a-hole'? (as was in his letter supporting Bob)."
Schatz said Stephane wrote that

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 34m34 minutes ago Detroit, MI Bob tried to sell Schatz that 1981 Cadillac in 2010. He'd apparently been trying to get rid of it for some time.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 33m33 minutes ago Detroit, MI That Cadillac didn't run, Schatz said. "They pushed it around like a ...lawnmower" to avoid getting a ticket.

 

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 31m31 minutes ago Detroit, MI
Schatz is admitting he gossiped about Bob

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 28m28 minutes ago Detroit, MI
Jury is laughing as Schatz again says they'd move Bob's Cadillac "like a riding lawnmower" to avoid abandoned vehicle ticket

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 28m28 minutes ago Detroit, MI Schatz told a fellow tenant, "Shelly" to watch out and be careful around Bob, according to previous testimony

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 27m27 minutes ago Detroit, MI Bob to Schatz: "I will throw your mother-#@$ing ass out if you continue talking **** about me."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 27m27 minutes ago Detroit, MI Liliian, on Bob: "He's a big guy; you're scared of big people, aren't you?"
Schatz, who's 5'5: "Oh, I'm frightened."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 27m27 minutes ago Detroit, MI Lillian: "Are you scared of me, too?"

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 27m27 minutes ago Detroit, MI Okay, now everyone is cracking up. Schatz said that Caddy was being moved "like a John Deere." That brought the house down.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 25m25 minutes ago Detroit, MI
Lillian: "You were gossiping about a lot of other people, too, right?"
Schatz: "I was a bigmouth. I'll be honest, I was a bigmouth."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 26m26 minutes ago Detroit, MI Judge: "You're a changed man."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 24m24 minutes ago Detroit, MI Judge asked Schatz to describe Tommy. "He's a little stocky dude. I was scared of him, too."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 24m24 minutes ago Detroit, MI Schatz: "I was gossiping about him, too."

A male juror in the back row just let out a huge belly laugh.

 

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 22m22 minutes ago Detroit, MI
Bob's handyman Robert Fick had an obvious nickname: "Handyman Bob."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 21m21 minutes ago Detroit, MI
Hindelang: "Were you the only tenant talking about Mr. Bashara?"
Schatz: "At the time, yes. The other tenants had their own opinion."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 20m20 minutes ago Detroit, MI Other tenants complained Bob didn't take care of his property - but Schatz was talking about Bob's personal biz.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 20m20 minutes ago Detroit, MI Schatz is yet another in a long line of characters in this trial.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 20m20 minutes ago Detroit, MI Schatz told a fellow tenant about Bob: "Watch out...he might choke you."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 19m19 minutes ago Detroit, MI According to Schatz, Bob told him "you will be out of here quick, I promise you (if he didn't stop talking about him)."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 19m19 minutes ago Detroit, MI Schatz told a fellow tenant named Shelly about Bob: "He has a hot temper. He might hurt you. He might choke you."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 18m18 minutes ago Detroit, MI Judge: "Did you have a job?"

Answer: No.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14m14 minutes ago Detroit, MI Schatz said he saw the Cadillac on Channel 4 news as part of a story that Bob paid Gentz $$ and a Cadillac to kill Jane

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 13m13 minutes ago Detroit, MI Schatz is done testifying.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14m14 minutes ago Detroit, MI The next witness will take about an hour, Robert Moran said.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 12m12 minutes ago Detroit, MI Lunch break. The judge said we'll take a longer lunch break today. "I've got a flat tire and I've got to get it fixed," she said.

 

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 2m2 minutes ago Detroit, MI
Poor William Schatz. I was told he was still shaking in the hallway outside the courtroom after his testimony!

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 3m3 minutes ago Detroit, MI
Up next: "Ponytail Bob" and "Handyman Bob" - Robert Fick, one of Bashara's handymen.

 

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 2m2 minutes ago Detroit, MI
Judge is back on the bench for the #bobbashara trial. A tight-lipped Bob, ubiquitous brown folder tucked under his arm, just strode in

 

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Hi Bravo! An entertaining day in court? lol!

 

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Hi Bravo! An entertaining day in court? lol!

:seeya: bravo !


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LOL And that it was. I have much sideline comments to post. I know u all have the jist of the Testimony. I need to not only collect the few notes I made but my own thoughts. Absolutely exhausted. Drove to Detroit thru some wet snow. Home was a mixed bag of blinding sun, clear, huge snow flakes coming straight at me. Poor visibility. Stuck in the Tunnel back to Canada. Mile from home roads were slick. It's all good. Spoke with many of the media. George had some awesome things to say about Websleuths. Sorry to cut out so soon. Maybe after a coffee I will be back tonight. I have a huge day tomorrow and promise I will try to post and if not Sat. at the latest. Thanks BDE we ate at Pegasus. Beyond delish!!!!!!!!!! Oh and not much to say about the Jurors as far as details. Where I sat I could not see them all. My intent was to give a descript. of each. I did watch them often. They are engaged. I can tell they struggle in the aft. as we all were. I do like the Judge but the interruptions are astounding. Forgive my typos if they are any I am still on this stupid desktop. Since work heard my laptop fried we are in negotiations as they may spring for some of it. Not sure I want to wait that long LOL.

 

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI
Ok, we were told Robert Fick would be next, but the day's 4th witness is Jacquelynne Foster, a social worker at Wayne County Jail

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI
She came in contact w Bob in Spring, 2012. She was his social worker.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI Foster said she helps inmates make phone calls. She helps them fill out forms, and is allowed to make 1 personal call for them

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI Foster said she helps inmates make phone calls. She helps them fill out forms, and is allowed to make 1 personal call for them

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI Inmates get "yellow kites" - forms to fill out for phone call requests. "I saw Mr. Bashara by himself (in his cell)." So she filled out form

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI There were spaces for 10 names on the form - 9 personal, one for attorney.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI Judge asking who pays for the calls. Answer: Inmates can do debits by purchasing phone cards thru commissary, or call home collect.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI Making phone call on the list costs $; but Foster would make a free call for the inmates, too.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI When Bob put Rachel's name on the list, she told him she was aware there was a PPO against him from Rachel, and that she coudln't call her

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI “I told him that would be a violation of the PPO.”

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI She gave the request form back to Bob. "Mr. Bashara...tore it into tiny pieces," Foster said.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI Bob wrote a message to give to someone named Richard Fercallo (sp?): "Don't believe everything you hear."

marie osborne ‏@marieosbornewwj 15h15 hours ago No cross examination. Quick witness #bobbashara

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI Foster is done testifying. Looks like "Ponytail Bob" - Robert Fick - is next. At least, the guy standing in the doorway has a ponytail!


George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Ponytail Bob waiting to testify pic.twitter.com/c3SAPvoFmS

 

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI
Ponytail Bob met Master Bob through a mutual friend


George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI
Bob introduced Fick to Rachel "as a friend"



marie osborne ‏@marieosbornewwj 15h15 hours ago
Robert Fick takes the stand.Former#BobBashara handy man.He's sporting a long grey pony tail@WWJ950 pic.twitter.com/LY2lg6evCZ

 

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI
Bob later introduced Rachel as "his girlfriend."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI
Fick saw Rachel collecting coins out of the apartment complex washing machines and dryers.


marie osborne ‏@marieosbornewwj 15h15 hours ago Fick tells jury #bobbashara introduced Rachel as girlfriend @WWJ950 pic.twitter.com/T8ZxCBNzm7

 

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI
Fick did work at Rachel's house, fixing shower doors, etc.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI
After Jane was killed, Fick went to Rachel's house to fix a gate.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI In January, Fick found out on the news Jane had been killed. "I couldn't believe it...it was horrible," he said.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 15h15 hours ago Detroit, MI After Jane was killed, Bob told Fick to tell him if the cops were coming around.

He says Bob told him over the phone to let him know if people were talking to cops.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14h14 hours ago Detroit, MI Fick said he complied with Bob because he needed a job.


marie osborne ‏@marieosbornewwj 14h14 hours ago Correction,Fick has a long curly pony tail,not a braid. @WWJ950 #bobbashara pic.twitter.com/UMHG0t6UO8

 

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George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14h14 hours ago Detroit, MI
Fick: “I did overhear (Bob) say (to tenants): ‘Don’t talk to the police’”

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14h14 hours ago Detroit, MI In Feb. 2012, cops came by to photograph the Cadillac. Fick told Bob about it "Because I didn't want to get thrown out of my place."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14h14 hours ago Detroit, MI Fick didn't tell cops about Bob's relationship with Rachel. He also didn't say he'd seen her recently.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14h14 hours ago Detroit, MI Fick said he withheld information: "I needed a job; needed a place to live."

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14h14 hours ago Detroit, MI After Jane was killed, Bob asked Fick to use his cell phone. Bob walked away for about 15 minutes and came back.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14h14 hours ago Detroit, MI Fick looked at his phone to see who Bob had called. Bob deleted the number.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14h14 hours ago Detroit, MI The number Bob called from Fick's phone was Wayne State University -- Rachel's employer.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14h14 hours ago Detroit, MI Asst. Prosecutor Moran pointing out to the part in the subpoena that says it's confidential; but Fick told Bob about it.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14h14 hours ago Detroit, MI The day Fick was subpoenaed, Bob paid him "$400-some" he owed him.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14h14 hours ago Detroit, MI Bob told Fick to not say anything about Rachel to prosecutors. Moran again pointing out that he was supposed to tell the truth.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14h14 hours ago Detroit, MI At the investigative subpoena hearing, they took a break. Fick said: “My blood pressure was high; (I was) upset; scared; nervous.”

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14h14 hours ago Detroit, MI Fick was later admitted to the hospital. "My blood pressure was sky high."
He came back and this time had an attorney present.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14h14 hours ago Detroit, MI Fick says he told the truth at the 2nd hearing, and told prosecutors that he'd lied in the 1st hearing about Rachel

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14h14 hours ago Detroit, MI Fick had never heard of Gentz prior to Jane's murder.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14h14 hours ago Detroit, MI Fick said Bob told him Gentz probably killed Jane.

George Hunter ‏@GeorgeHunter_DN 14h14 hours ago Detroit, MI After Jane died, Bob called Fick from his mother's phone.