MI - Neurosurgeon Dr. Devon Hoover, 53, found fatally shot during welfare check, Detroit, Apr 2023

  • #201
It just seems like if they LE has texts, video surveillance and DNA, that should be enough. I don’t understand why they have to have the murder weapon for an arrest. The murder weapon in the BK Idaho murders was never found and BK is in jail.

If the POI had reasonably been in Dr. Hoover's residence on other occasions, then his DNA would legitimately be there. Just speculation on my part.
 
  • #202
It just seems like if they LE has texts, video surveillance and DNA, that should be enough. I don’t understand why they have to have the murder weapon for an arrest. The murder weapon in the BK Idaho murders was never found and BK is in jail.
I think they want the strongest case possible-- there is no rush to charge someone with murder at this point--
Down the road, if they cant find the weapon, and they feel they have other strong evidence, they will proceed
to charge the suspect IMO
 
  • #203
Speculating ... blood trail or odor? Wonder if they recovered his cell phone. Even if they don't have the physical phone the cell phone carrier will have records that may help. JMO.
Given the time from when he was last seen to the time police entered his home, it was more than likely the odour of decomp that pricked suspicion as any sign of disturbance would not immediately lead to the loft space moreover a stronger smell as they searched. From what i've read i would be inclined to surmise the offender is a fairly recent acquaintance of the Dr, almost certainly Male, White, approx 25-35yrs old due to disorganised nature of body deposition and shame displayed by the fact the body was wrapped up using an item from the house. I'd look at recent or new patients that may have struck a cord with the Dr with financial difficulties but not nesseccerily a down and out broke, perhaps a student, medical or otherwise.
 
  • #204
I think they want the strongest case possible-- there is no rush to charge someone with murder at this point--
Down the road, if they cant find the weapon, and they feel they have other strong evidence, they will proceed
to charge the suspect IMO
Let's hope LE has eyes on the POI so he doesn't skip town while they continue to gather evidence. JMO
 
  • #205
It just seems like if they LE has texts, video surveillance and DNA, that should be enough. I don’t understand why they have to have the murder weapon for an arrest. The murder weapon in the BK Idaho murders was never found and BK is in jail.
True, however BK used a knife that, even if found, couldn't be tied to him owning it. Plus, they have the sheath with DNA, so that does tie him directly to the weapon.

I think with a gun, in addition to potential DNA, they could possibly trace its ownership to the killer. That would take the proof well beyond a reasonable doubt, IMO, make the whole trial process simple and direct, saving so much time and $$ in trying to build a circumstantial case, that might not convict.

JMO
 
  • #206
Thursday Bump as we await #FelonyFriday

Justice For Dr. Hoover!
 
  • #207
Oh man, I was hoping this would be solved by the next time I checked his thread. Sad to see this wasn't the case. I hope they're able to crack it soon and bring justice for Dr. Hoover.
 
  • #208
IMO LE has a suspect on their radar and are busy building a solid case. I think we’ll soon see an arrest. At least I hope so.
 
  • #209
IMO LE has a suspect on their radar and are busy building a solid case. I think we’ll soon see an arrest. At least I hope so.

That's my hope, as well.

I wonder how likely it will be LE locates the murder weapon?
 
  • #210
Welcome Newbie. :)
Hope this, plus many other crimes, continue to be solved.
Creeps responsible put into prison: away from public. :)
 
  • #211
Yep, they’re not having to send out a search party; it’s almost a solved case.

A bad date or a tryst that went wrong?

It will be reported on soon enough.

Well, I sure was wrong on this case it seems.

The only conclusions are 1/ there is nothing 2/ they know they have the right party but not enough evidence and are going to have to wait for the perp to brag or err in some way.

If there’s a third one, I cannot think of it at the moment.
 
  • #212
Well, I sure was wrong on this case it seems.

The only conclusions are 1/ there is nothing 2/ they know they have the right party but not enough evidence and are going to have to wait for the perp to brag or err in some way.

If there’s a third one, I cannot think of it at the moment.
IMO there’s a third option: LE knows who murdered the doctor and has collected forensic evidence. Now it’s about getting all the lab results, interviewing people, consulting with the DA and making sure they have strong probable cause.

In the Idaho murders LE shocked us all when we learned they zeroed in on their suspect within a week or so. It took time before they made an arrest but they have a solid case against him and that’s what matters.

There are so many cases that looked like they went cold and would never be solved. Then bam! arrest.

This case is high profile yet hasn’t been in the news much in the last few weeks. To me it means something is cooking and a perp will be arrested. We just need to be patient (yeah, I know) until then. All MOO
 
  • #213
IMO there’s a third option: LE knows who murdered the doctor and has collected forensic evidence. Now it’s about getting all the lab results, interviewing people, consulting with the DA and making sure they have strong probable cause.

In the Idaho murders LE shocked us all when we learned they zeroed in on their suspect within a week or so. It took time before they made an arrest but they have a solid case against him and that’s what matters.

There are so many cases that looked like they went cold and would never be solved. Then bam! arrest.

This case is high profile yet hasn’t been in the news much in the last few weeks. To me it means something is cooking and a perp will be arrested. We just need to be patient (yeah, I know) until then. All MOO

Yep, that would be a second case but awaiting test results etc.

I feel that LE knows but there isn’t the evidence needed for a conviction, yet.

If not, it’s downright weird to have nothing in the news or searching for a suspect etc.

What I found ‘interesting’ was the ‘domestic‘ bit as the reports were that he lived alone.



IMO. MOO, JMO
 
  • #214
Do we know if DH went to the Flower Market on the Saturday before he was found deceased by LE? It was said that it was his usual practice to go to the Flower Market every Saturday, so this could help with a timeline if he was seen at the Flower Market that Saturday, or not. I don't remember seeing this info in MSM articles but maybe I missed it.
 
  • #215
Does anyone else hate the thought of a murderer walking free amongst us while a case is built? They know it is a matter of time before they will be charged... what's to stop them from murdering someone else? Too close to home for me. MOO

I hope the police are able to arrest them soon!
 
  • #216
Does anyone else hate the thought of a murderer walking free amongst us while a case is built? They know it is a matter of time before they will be charged... what's to stop them from murdering someone else? Too close to home for me. MOO

I hope the police are able to arrest them soon!
I keep thinking this wasn't a one man job.
 
  • #217
IMO the perp can’t be someone with a bad back, owing to the fact the body was dragged, and would therefore require considerable physical abilities. So, the perp is unlikely DH’s ex-patient, especially by someone whose neuro-surgery didn’t work out.
 
  • #218
Do we know if DH went to the Flower Market on the Saturday before he was found deceased by LE? It was said that it was his usual practice to go to the Flower Market every Saturday, so this could help with a timeline if he was seen at the Flower Market that Saturday, or not. I don't remember seeing this info in MSM articles but maybe I missed it.
Multiple have said that he did not go to the Flower Market on that Saturday, that he had planned to skip it so he could go to Indiana to be with his family (mother dying).
 
  • #219
Multiple have said that he did not go to the Flower Market on that Saturday, that he had planned to skip it so he could go to Indiana to be with his family (mother dying).
Thanks, I had wondered about that, when he was expected in Indiana, etc.

So if he was last seen at work on Friday (if that is the case) and he was found by LE on Sunday, then there is a fair amount of time unaccounted for, as far as the public knows. Hope LE has narrowed down the time, perhaps the autopsy provided some information, stomach contents, or other.
 
  • #220
Does anyone else hate the thought of a murderer walking free amongst us while a case is built? They know it is a matter of time before they will be charged... what's to stop them from murdering someone else? Too close to home for me. MOO

I hope the police are able to arrest them soon!
If the crime was considered random, like BK in Idaho, then I agree. However, when they believe it was targetted to a particular person, because of a specific circumstance, then IMO there isn't the same risk. Also, LE normally keeps the person under close surveillance to gather evidence, so would probably be able to intervene if anything fishy happened.

Interesting to me that, in this case, they arrested the person on unrelated charges and announced publicly that they were a POI. LE don't always do that, it seems to me often they don't want the suspect to know they are a suspect, they watch them to see what they'll do when they don't know police are watching...

JMO
 

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