GUILTY MI - Paul DeWolf, 25, fatally shot in Ann Arbor frat house, 23 July 2013

[LambChop]

If you are stating a fact please link to where the new information is coming from. If it's just your opinion based on a rumor you have heard please state "it's an opinion" in your post. It is getting very difficult to separate fact from fiction at this point. lease:

 

[kittycat3]

Perhaps we watched different videos. I recall that SS, when asked about drama in the victims life, unequivocally stated that there was absolutely none that she was aware of. Did not dodge the question at all, in fact quite the opposite.

 

[popsicle]

I know this isn't a game... but this case really reminds me of the game clue more so than other cases, for some reason.

 

[jjenny]

I know this isn't a game... but this case really reminds me of the game clue more so than other cases, for some reason.

Maybe because so far there are no clues.

 

[psyquestor]

I personally cannot see any reason to intentionally hit someone's neck. It is awkward and not a very exposed target, like a head would be.

If it's personal and intentionally aimed, the gunshot would be to the head or face area :cow:

Most often, it's the body shot first, because it's easier to hit. The head/face wound comes later.

What I'm trying to say is, I think the perp aimed at the head not the neck, and missed.<snip>
:dunno:

Also my own opinion, but thinking like the short female I am - if I were to aim to shoot a man in the head, I'd likely hit his neck. (due to my stature). I'm curious at this point how tall the victim was?

...following along.

 

[psyquestor]

I've just come upon this thread late, so forgive me if this has already has been asked and answered (I did however read through 11 pages).

As to a poster claiming the victim "had womanizing ways" please cite a reference to this. Yes, I see he had many girlfriends, but this does not qualify him as having done anything inappropriate - perhaps he was simply popular with the girls. *meh* Could you please cite a source or withdraw the characterization?

As to a few posters naming a few of his ex-gf's names, I found this distasteful at best. Yet another poster stated that due to his current gf not being friends on FB with his purported bestie gf might lead to the question of strife between the two is simply outrageous IMHO.

At least some of the posters here have claimed these tidbits to be opinion, but again, I found it tasteless to even suggest the ex or the current gf [and name them] without anything to back it up. IF there is something to back it up, please cite the source.

All of this was just my observations upon reading through this thread. It left quite a bad taste in my mouth really and I was surprised to see that some of this was allowed here. If you have no evidence, then stating someone as a likely suspect (and assigning a motive that is unproven (i.e. jealousy)) is slanderous imo. These poor people have suffered a loss. God forbid they come here and see that others suspect them of murder.

Again, I apologize if all of this has been stated previously or if it sounds at all snarky. This is not my intent. My intention was to get current on the case and see what had transpired. I had a hard time following the facts, due to all of the conjecture and rumor. I see that a Mod did come along and ask the topic to get back on track. tyvm Mod.

Since I'm new, I hope this post is not out of line. I felt a need to state my feelings and will hop off of my soapbox now.

 

[black_squirrel]

I've just come upon this thread late, so forgive me if this has already has been asked and answered (I did however read through 11 pages).

As to a poster claiming the victim "had womanizing ways" please cite a reference to this. Yes, I see he had many girlfriends, but this does not qualify him as having done anything inappropriate - perhaps he was simply popular with the girls. *meh* Could you please cite a source or withdraw the characterization?

As to a few posters naming a few of his ex-gf's names, I found this distasteful at best. Yet another poster stated that due to his current gf not being friends on FB with his purported bestie gf might lead to the question of strife between the two is simply outrageous IMHO.

At least some of the posters here have claimed these tidbits to be opinion, but again, I found it tasteless to even suggest the ex or the current gf [and name them] without anything to back it up. IF there is something to back it up, please cite the source.

All of this was just my observations upon reading through this thread. It left quite a bad taste in my mouth really and I was surprised to see that some of this was allowed here. If you have no evidence, then stating someone as a likely suspect (and assigning a motive that is unproven (i.e. jealousy)) is slanderous imo. These poor people have suffered a loss. God forbid they come here and see that others suspect them of murder.

Again, I apologize if all of this has been stated previously or if it sounds at all snarky. This is not my intent. My intention was to get current on the case and see what had transpired. I had a hard time following the facts, due to all of the conjecture and rumor. I see that a Mod did come along and ask the topic to get back on track. tyvm Mod.

Since I'm new, I hope this post is not out of line. I felt a need to state my feelings and will hop off of my soapbox now.

J.D., one of DeWolf’s closest friends from medical school, said he should be remembered for his commitment to service and as a brother, son, friend, scholar, athlete, inspiration and as a ladies’ man.

D. recounted how DeWolf ruined many pictures making a face that echoed Ben Stiller’s “Blue Steel” look in Zoolander, a face that he said was almost as good at grabbing the attention of women as his terrible pick-up lines.

http://www.annarbor.com/news/crime/friends-and-family-share-laughs-in-celebration-of-paul-dewolfs-life/

 

[black_squirrel]

Also my own opinion, but thinking like the short female I am - if I were to aim to shoot a man in the head, I'd likely hit his neck. (due to my stature). I'm curious at this point how tall the victim was?

...following along.

Couldn't you just aim up?
In group pictures, he always seems to be amongst the tallest people. So I would guess at least 6ft.

 

[danzn16]

As a medical student they do have hospital duties...may see things they think are unethical. My ex did his medical student duties in some air force hospitals and his residency at Wright Pat.

All medical students have hospital duties. I train in the same hospitals as my friends that are in the Air Force. They are not working inside the Air Force yet as they are still in training to become a physician. Now residency is entirely different as you are starting to work for the military then and are in a military residency. But Paul was a 4th year. He would know no inner Air Force secrets anymore than I, just a medical student, would. People have been stating maybe it has something to do with the military and I'm just stating he is not deep into that yet. If you think it could be because he is a medical student then that is different than what I was refuting.


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[ATasteOfHoney]

I've just come upon this thread late, so forgive me if this has already has been asked and answered (I did however read through 11 pages).

As to a poster claiming the victim "had womanizing ways" please cite a reference to this. Yes, I see he had many girlfriends, but this does not qualify him as having done anything inappropriate - perhaps he was simply popular with the girls. *meh* Could you please cite a source or withdraw the characterization?

As to a few posters naming a few of his ex-gf's names, I found this distasteful at best. Yet another poster stated that due to his current gf not being friends on FB with his purported bestie gf might lead to the question of strife between the two is simply outrageous IMHO.

At least some of the posters here have claimed these tidbits to be opinion, but again, I found it tasteless to even suggest the ex or the current gf [and name them] without anything to back it up. IF there is something to back it up, please cite the source.

All of this was just my observations upon reading through this thread. It left quite a bad taste in my mouth really and I was surprised to see that some of this was allowed here. If you have no evidence, then stating someone as a likely suspect (and assigning a motive that is unproven (i.e. jealousy)) is slanderous imo. These poor people have suffered a loss. God forbid they come here and see that others suspect them of murder.

Again, I apologize if all of this has been stated previously or if it sounds at all snarky. This is not my intent. My intention was to get current on the case and see what had transpired. I had a hard time following the facts, due to all of the conjecture and rumor. I see that a Mod did come along and ask the topic to get back on track. tyvm Mod.

Since I'm new, I hope this post is not out of line. I felt a need to state my feelings and will hop off of my soapbox now.

So I'm wondering who do you think killed him? Do you think it was someone that knew him or a random stranger? What could've been the motive?
I am sincerely asking.

 

[psyquestor]

So I'm wondering who do you think killed him? Do you think it was someone that knew him or a random stranger? What could've been the motive?
I am sincerely asking.

At this point there isn't enough information to draw a conclusion, imo. The roommates heard nothing. There is no obvious motive (i.e. larceny, love triangle blah blah) and the guy was well liked by many. IF it was one of his girlfriends of past or present, you would think to have seen more malice in the killing; not a single shot and nothing else (struggle etc.). I would presume a murderous rage would produce more action, if it were a jealousy based crime, as was supposed a few pages ago.

If I were to make an observation based on what is known, I would say the killer might have been a person of small stature or a horribly awful shot - either of which could explain why the vic was shot in the neck. (Aiming up at the head from a low position, could explain the neck shot - among other things I'm sure). It also could have been an accidental shooting for all we know. It could have been one of the frat members mistook him for a criminal? This as much as anything else would explain the single shot. Perhaps the killer shot him then realized his "mistake" and fled?

Again, no way to know without more information. :twocents: All completely my unprofessional observation. Mayhaps I've watched too much CSI? (probably not!)

[ Random thought - It would be nice to know the trajectory of the bullet wound. ]

 

[psyquestor]

Couldn't you just aim up?
In group pictures, he always seems to be amongst the tallest people. So I would guess at least 6ft.

Or even supposing it was a large gun, a poorly controlled kick back could explain this - if say the person was aiming at his chest. Many things could explain it, depending upon information we simply don't have (or that I've missed).

(My husband just told me that the bullet would be long out of the barrel before the recoil would happen, so my theory is already shot before I've posted LOL).

I do not think that the shot to the throat is a sign of a skilled hitman however. I just don't see that as being a place someone would intentionally aim at from any sort of distance. Just my gut feeling.

 

[OldSteve]

Or even supposing it was a large gun, a poorly controlled kick back could explain this - if say the person was aiming at his chest. Many things could explain it, depending upon information we simply don't have (or that I've missed).

(My husband just told me that the bullet would be long out of the barrel before the recoil would happen, so my theory is already shot before I've posted LOL).

I do not think that the shot to the throat is a sign of a skilled hitman however. I just don't see that as being a place someone would intentionally aim at from any sort of distance. Just my gut feeling.

BBM - Agree! We haven't been told the bullet caliber, but IMO small. Seems like something a thief might carry.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

http://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/join-air-force-reserve.html

Considering PW was already a second lieutenant in the Air Force doesn't that mean he was already part of and in the Air Force? I read that PW was in the Reserves. Doesn't that mean he was obligated to train one weekend a month and for two weeks straight every year? This training very well may have been tied in with the military health care system as PW was a medical student or, the requirement may have been AF training in general. I'm not sure.

What I'm trying to understand, is the reason one would not consider PW a member of the AF yet. He was a commissioned second lieutenant, right?

On another topic ~

Veterans Health Administration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Earlier I posted that AF investigators were asked into the case because PW worked at a VA hospital.
Duh (back in the day I knew this), but the VA hospital system is a separate entity from the Department of Defense as explained in the wiki link above. Therefore, I'm uncertain if the AF would be asked in for that reason. The reason must be due to the fact that PW was a second lieutenant in the AF and was under the umbrella of the AF.

For instance, if an Army private or major (enlisted or officer) gets a dui off post by the local LE, it will be reported to the soldier's unit commander and go on his record. So, a soldier receives a double whammy so-to-speak. Because, if a person works for IBM, the police don't notify their boss.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

All medical students have hospital duties. I train in the same hospitals as my friends that are in the Air Force. They are not working inside the Air Force yet as they are still in training to become a physician. Now residency is entirely different as you are starting to work for the military then and are in a military residency. But Paul was a 4th year. He would know no inner Air Force secrets anymore than I, just a medical student, would. People have been stating maybe it has something to do with the military and I'm just stating he is not deep into that yet. If you think it could be because he is a medical student then that is different than what I was refuting.


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As per my post above, I'm not sure about the statement that PW wouldn't know anything about AF policy as compared with a civilian medical student. I did notice that the VA hospitals, separate from military hospital systems, may have bio medicine involvements/programs. Considering how bright PW was could he have been privy to information therein? I'm reaching for something. Just ideas.

 

[danzn16]

All my friends in med school under Air Force scholarships are 2nd lieutenants. They are considered in the Air Force as their school is getting paid for and they get a $20,000 a year stipend. Being in med school gives you a higher rank than those just entering and higher rank once graduated as well. However it is not feasible to go to med school and train once a month or 2 times a week like you're asking. Med school is just too intense. They do train a few times throughout the semesters and did training between 2nd and 3rd year after boards. They are in the Air Force they are just not "inside" the Air Force like many posters are assuming here. They are spending all their time studying and in rotations. They are in the same hospitals as those not in the Air Force. There would be no extra military secrets they would know about that would contribute to the possibility of them being killed like some are suggesting. That's all I'm saying. And this is from my experience. It is my opinion that him being on an Air Force scholarship has nothing to do with his murder. I'm stating my opinion with my personal knowledge but everyone else is also free to their opinions


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[SapphireSteel]

My brother did his degree through the Navy.

He had Officer Training at the same time on base, so yes I would imagine PW was very familiar with being in the Armed Forces, the regulations etc.

:twocents:

 

[danzn16]

He would definitely know the regulations of being in the Air Force. Of course. They do have to do limited training while in med school. They are in the Air Force from the day they sign that contract. But that's not what I am denying. I am denying major involvement within the Air Force to where one would know secrets etc that would get you killed. They are signed up with that military service to work within it upon graduation in residency and thereafter. Paul was a 4th year, had not graduated, and had not entered Air Force work yet so although he knew military regulations and did perform some training he was not privy to inside details about secrets that would get him killed if there are any of those secrets at all.


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[popsicle]

I think what woe is referring to is that reservists serve 1 weekend a month and 2 weeks every summer. jmo

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Since LE hasn't named a suspect, all commentary is simply speculation based on impressions of the people who appeared in or made comments to the media.

LE begins by looking at those closest to the victim and works their way out when a case has no witnesses or leaves no obvious clues.
Significant others, colleagues, friends and other associates are suspect but not suspects.
It's understandable, and I'd hate it too if it were me, to be placed under a microscope for speaking out about your friend. As far as I know, no one here has the perp picked out or insists he/she must be a specific person (whose name is already out there for whatever reason).

Speculation is impossible to avoid when thinking of all the possibilities there are when trying to determine who committed this crime.