GUILTY MI - Paul DeWolf, 25, fatally shot in Ann Arbor frat house, 23 July 2013

  • #621
There does not appear to be an osteopathic medicine program at University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, MI where Paul attends.

Here's a link to OD schools in USA:
http://www.osteopathic.org/inside-aoa/about/affiliates/Pages/osteopathic-medical-schools.aspx

Whole person medicine is ahead of the times as far as reality goes imo.
Besides, once you have a problem you just want a doctor who believes you and can find the cause of it and hopefully fix it. While they're doing that, it would be nice if they kept in mind you're a person who may be waiting (and anxious) to find out if death seems imminent or not.

How's this for an example (not as severe as waiting on a possible death sentence) - pretend you go to the emergency room while your five year old is at school and your husband is deployed (so nobody is around to help you with an issue like this) because while taking a shower, you feel a little bump between your shoulder blades. Lo and behold, you can see by using a handheld mirror, what looks like a tick there. So, you quickly get dressed and go the ER thinking, 'yikes, how long has that thing been there?".

Once you get to the ER, they take their time calling your name. Finally, you're brought into a little curtain area. The doctor who tends to you can't find the tool/instrument he's looking for and begins asking everybody and calling different people inquiring where's the ???. In the meantime, almost two hours later by now, the doctor and another medical 'professional' begin chatting about a policy argument or a medical issue that is unrelated to the tick that's still clinging to your back. You've finally had it and ask, 'Hey, doctor, remember me? Are you going to take the damn tick out of my back?" (Kid needs to be picked up at school and you're beginning to freak out.)

Okay that gets his attention but, for some reason, taking the tick out isn't too easy and he expresses the difficulty he's having out loud (without the special tool - never located the darn thing afterall). Finally the tick is out and three people (others have already been in and out looking at your back) come in to look, discussing the tick as if you're not there. In case you haven't guessed by now, this happened to me.

A few days later, I receive a call from doctor somebody who begins by telling me "Congratulations, you don't have syphilis." Me - "What?"
Turns out the lyme test is similar to the one used to determine syphilis.
Me - "Real funny, a-hole". The doctor thinks he's funny; he likes to practice his stand up on patients who are waiting for test results (I guess)! Professional? Would you employ him? Make you feel secure/respected?

Paul sounds as if he wanted to improve upon a climate problem. Although he probably didn't even know how bad it might be.
 
  • #622
I view doctors as a necessary evil.

Most of them are pretty much useless, like my doctor who I've been seeing for years and looks at me as though he's never seen me before every time I go.

I sit and tell him what's wrong with me, what I've decided I need, and he almost always totally agrees, gives me a script and rushes me out for the next on the conveyor belt

Yeup that was worth $$$. Not.

Nothing personal to ALL doctors, I'm sure P was going to be at the top of his game and probably be a wonderful addition to the profession. What a waste.
 
  • #623
There does not appear to be an osteopathic medicine program at University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, MI where Paul attends.

Here's a link to OD schools in USA:
http://www.osteopathic.org/inside-aoa/about/affiliates/Pages/osteopathic-medical-schools.aspx

His parents mentioned his paper topic because they are proud of the compassion he demonstrated by choosing that topic. Paul sounds as if he was a self-actualizing individual and aware of his own growth.

Another poster brought up the subject of the DO title; not sure the significance or why it matters really. We often go off on little tangents; I know I do!
 
  • #624
Just some thoughts on potential perps & motives:
1) Relative of Paul, long-standing jealousy/rivalry
2) Close friend to Paul who's also in AirForce Security, jealousy
3) Girlfriend, unrequited love
4) Male friend with romantic interest in Paul, unrequited love
5) Stalker of Paul, could be any motive
6) Random Burglar, Paul got in his way and perp panicked
7) Random, opportunistic perp, thrill kill

Truly wish we can get more info on alibis of some of the key POIs.

Thank you for narrowing down the suspect list - :scared: :banghead:.
 
  • #625
Whole person medicine is ahead of the times as far as reality goes imo.
Besides, once you have a problem you just want a doctor who believes you and can find the cause of it and hopefully fix it. While they're doing that, it would be nice if they kept in mind you're a person who may be waiting (and anxious) to find out if death seems imminent or not.

How's this for an example (not as severe as waiting on a possible death sentence) - pretend you go to the emergency room while your five year old is at school and your husband is deployed (so nobody is around to help you with an issue like this) because while taking a shower, you feel a little bump between your shoulder blades. Lo and behold, you can see by using a handheld mirror, what looks like a tick there. So, you quickly get dressed and go the ER thinking, 'yikes, how long has that thing been there?".

Once you get to the ER, they take their time calling your name. Finally, you're brought into a little curtain area. The doctor who tends to you can't find the tool/instrument he's looking for and begins asking everybody and calling different people inquiring where's the ???. In the meantime, almost two hours later by now, the doctor and another medical 'professional' begin chatting about a policy argument or a medical issue that is unrelated to the tick that's still clinging to your back. You've finally had it and ask, 'Hey, doctor, remember me? Are you going to take the damn tick out of my back?" (Kid needs to be picked up at school and you're beginning to freak out.)

Okay that gets his attention but, for some reason, taking the tick out isn't too easy and he expresses the difficulty he's having out loud (without the special tool - never located the darn thing afterall). Finally the tick is out and three people (others have already been in and out looking at your back) come in to look, discussing the tick as if you're not there. In case you haven't guessed by now, this happened to me.

A few days later, I receive a call from doctor somebody who begins by telling me "Congratulations, you don't have syphilis." Me - "What?"
Turns out the lyme test is similar to the one used to determine syphilis.
Me - "Real funny, a-hole". The doctor thinks he's funny; he likes to practice his stand up on patients who are waiting for test results (I guess)! Professional? Would you employ him? Make you feel secure/respected?

Paul sounds as if he wanted to improve upon a climate problem. Although he probably didn't even know how bad it might be.

Wow, your experience with your doctor sounds horrendous! I have to say I've not had a bad experience with my doctors before, but perhaps it's because I worked in medicine before and doctors relate to me more? IDK

I agree, Paul, sounds like a *holistic* doctor, treating the whole patient and not just their symptoms. He sounds like an ideal physician who truly cares about a patient and has great bedside manners. :)
 
  • #626
Thank you for narrowing down the suspect list - :scared: :banghead:.

:floorlaugh::scared:

I feel like we're on a :rollercoaster: going in circles -- not having any new facts/evidence to analyze...lol
 
  • #627
Just some thoughts on potential perps & motives:
1) Relative of Paul, long-standing jealousy/rivalry
2) Close friend to Paul who's also in AirForce Security, jealousy
3) Girlfriend, unrequited love
4) Male friend with romantic interest in Paul, unrequited love
5) Stalker of Paul, could be any motive
6) Random Burglar, Paul got in his way and perp panicked
7) Random, opportunistic perp, thrill kill

Truly wish we can get more info on alibis of some of the key POIs.

8) Conspiracy theory involving military or medical/research field
 
  • #628
8) Conspiracy theory involving military or medical/research field

Good one! I never thought of that! Maybe it was a drone attack! LOL

But what would be the motive?
 
  • #629
I'm pretty sure I know who a lot of folks are thinking the perp is. Someone needs to clue me in on FB links, lol. I can't see anything.

But one person is kind of obvious if this were a movie, let's say. Or at least I think so. I don't know any alibis (like with time frames), so that makes it hard not to go there.

But... and I can't get this out of my head: the person I'm thinking of would be an excellent shot. The best shot of anyone around Paul that I've read about.

I can't see this being done by someone very very familiar with guns and an excellent shot. I think the neck hit and the location (in a house with others) seems like someone you wouldn't really expect to have or use a gun. I'm scratching prime suspect #1 off my personal speculation list for now.

I have a good question to ponder, I hope. Why -- if this were someone extremely close to Paul -- would the perp not have gotten Paul out of the house and in the dark parking lot, at least? Or they could jog through a secluded park!

This may be someone who did it without planning it much. That sort of perp would know the comings and goings in the house since s/he did choose a great time to not be noticed. That person would be in the house normally, imho. It could still be a visitor, but it would probably be a frequent one.

Or it could be someone more calculated who had to stalk the cr*p out of him, basically. That person wasn't close enough to Paul to ask him to go somewhere with him or her. They had to do it in Paul's room with others in the house because that's the best, most private, situation they could manage.

I still don't know enough about the folks in Paul's life to know who these folks would be. And this speculation is pretty cold because they are real people! But that's how my mind is turning over the problem, anyway. All I can think of is what sort of situation it had to be and what that implies about a theoretical perp.
 
  • #630
Oh, and the conspiracy theory ones raise the little hairs on my neck! It's crazy, but he looks just like a guy I knew in Oxford who got murdered :( Just. Like. Him.

That sad situation ended up shrouded in mystery and conspiracies because the guy did work with MI6 (I thought he was in journalism when we would chat).

So my mind wants to say who is killing sweet guys who look just like sweet murdered spies :( ? Of course no one is. But man, they really look alike!
 
  • #631
writer7: Just type "facebook.com" into your browser. When you get to the facebook page, type in the name and location of the person you are looking for. Such as "Paul Dewolf Michigan".

BUT you may need to be a member of Facebook to navigate the site. It is no big deal to register with Facebook and you can use a recently created yahoo or gmail address to do so. That way you don't have to hook the account up to your personal email address if you don't want to do so.

And yes, I too was shocked when a certain Facebook page came up. Yikes! Guns, paintball, gun magazines, shooting based games, etc.

Sometimes who does and doesn't submit to interviews is interesting, isn't it? Makes me wonder who all got polygraphed.
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His sister graduated as a "CNA". This is a Certified Nursing Assistant. Not a BSN, nor an RN, nor an LPN.
I cannot imagine a 4th year medical student needing to consult with a CNA about any issue of anatomy. Unless that 4th year medical student was being very kind to that CNA.

I am not trying to be snarky. But CNAs are not nurses. They are nursing assistants.
 
  • #632
His sister graduated as a "CNA". This is a Certified Nursing Assistant. Not a BSN, nor an RN, nor an LPN.
I cannot imagine a 4th year medical student needing to consult with a CNA about any issue of anatomy. Unless that 4th year medical student was being very kind to that CNA.

I am not trying to be snarky. But CNAs are not nurses. They are nursing assistants.

I thought the same thing. But this was clarified in one of the interviews.
One of the anatomy books was at the parents and sister's home. So she
was just looking up stuff in that book for Paul.
 
  • #633
Here's a poster who says he's an Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeon, a medical professional in the Navy, and that he "addicted" to paintball. He talks about injuries of paintball to the neck region.

"Getting hit in the Thyroid Cartilage aka the Adam's Apple:

From a distance this will just make you not feel too good for a few min, welp, bruise, made fun of. If you were to get hit there from a less then 15 - 20ft away, it could possible casue enough damage to collapse your trachea (windpipe) or actually cause enough swelling to make you start choking. Both of these are not really that likely but could possibly happen

Getting hit in the Carotid Sheath (Carotid Artery, Jugular Vein, and Vegus Nerve) aka the side of the neck:

From a distant see above. If you were to get hit from close, you could disturb the Carotid Basal Bodies, which are partially responsible for regulating blood pressure. Depending on the damage, your BP could go up (massive headache) or go down (really dizzy, possible faint). If the Carotid Artery was to become damaged, you wouldn't immediatley know it becasue the opposite side would provide enough blood to supply the brain. Within about 5-10 min, you would have a hematoma (massive swelling of blood) in you neck which would probably begin drainging into you chest cavity causing difficulty breathing a decreased heart function. If your Jugular Vein, you would instantly know it becasue your Blood pressure would begin rising and the same Hematoma formation would begin. If the impact were to casue any type of Nerve damamge, you could possible get heart palpitaitons, or difficulty breathing

Either injury could possibly cause death if the impact is placed in the right location, from the right distance, at the right FPS. History shows us that no one has died from these types of injuries but the question was asked and I thought I would give a fair assesment"

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2561719&page=3

NOTE: I have no idea if this poster is telling the truth or not and IDK if we can take his words at face value.

There have been comments made about a possible person of interest, and i am tending to agree it should be further investigated. I came across "this person's" screen name during 2006-2007 and he was a member of the PB site mentioned by bourne at least during those years. I found no recent posts there, but the screen name might possibly have been changed or the person just reads without posting now? It is hard to try to discuss this person without giving links, but I have also stumbled upon another interest of this person that troubles me (possibly X-rated?). It seems he has interest that are in conflict with the family values. I don't like where my mind is going.

(edited to add: According to the paintball website, his last activity there was 6/13/2013)
 
  • #634
Can't we assign a "nom de plume" to a person? Something Biblical perhaps, like Jeremiah?

I always liked that song "Jeremiah Was A Bullfrog". And another favorite of mine is an old John Mellancamp song called "The Walls Came Tumblin' Down".

As far as the investigation that has taken place so far, we can presume LE followed their standard procedure of starting with the inner circle of friends, family, and acquaintances and then moving outward from there. We know at least one friend took a polygraph. And the article states polygraphs, as in plural. Certainly alibis for the time in question would have been provided and checked out?

As we know from the Casey Anthony case, telephone use patterns and computer usage times - especially for an avid gamer can be interesting to examine.

As other posters have stated, we don't know that LE doesn't already have a POI but don't feel they have enough evidence to make an arrest.

This is a sad case. Maybe even a doubly sad case.
 
  • #635
Can't we assign a "nom de plume" to a person? Something Biblical perhaps, like Jeremiah?

I always liked that song "Jeremiah Was A Bullfrog". And another favorite of mine is an old John Mellancamp song called "The Walls Came Tumblin' Down".

As far as the investigation that has taken place so far, we can presume LE followed their standard procedure of starting with the inner circle of friends, family, and acquaintances and then moving outward from there. We know at least one friend took a polygraph. And the article states polygraphs, as in plural. Certainly alibis for the time in question would have been provided and checked out?

As we know from the Casey Anthony case, telephone use patterns and computer usage times - especially for an avid gamer can be interesting to examine.

As other posters have stated, we don't know that LE doesn't already have a POI but don't feel they have enough evidence to make an arrest.

This is a sad case. Maybe even a doubly sad case.

Those poor people.

The gun culture has a lot to answer for, sorry if that offends...

People argue with loved ones here too, but they don't have a gun in the cupboard. I'm sure just the fact that folks have easy access to them, makes them more of a choice when emotions run high.

God I used to be in the marriage from hell, one of us wouldn't be here now if we'd had a gun in the house. For sure.

:(
 
  • #636
I really hope this case does not go cold. I am getting a little worried.
 
  • #637
  • #638
I just got caught up with the most recent few pages of posts...dear God. I looked at certain person's fb page and I positivly got the tingles all down my neck! Disturbing "hobby" to say the least. Considering the relationship here and the nature of Paul's death...why would you even put photos like that up?! I would think that certain people close to Paul would find this insensitive and macabre...jmo
 
  • #639
Those poor people.

The gun culture has a lot to answer for, sorry if that offends...

People argue with loved ones here too, but they don't have a gun in the cupboard. I'm sure just the fact that folks have easy access to them, makes them more of a choice when emotions run high.

God I used to be in the marriage from hell, one of us wouldn't be here now if we'd had a gun in the house. For sure.

:(

As much as I detest guns...if someone wants to kill, they will find a way gun or no gun. It is simply an instrument. Plus, this crime seems planned...not a heat of the moment impulse. Why not blame Call of Duty or other video games? People want a reason for things or something to blame because it is just too hard to fathome the psyche of a killer.

With that being said, I know this is not the place or platform for gun control discussions. But...if we bring back the facts; ie Homicide by gunshot wound, I think we can analyze the correlation of guns and power to look at the mind of the potential killer. This person who feels left out, an under achiever, someone who feels a huge disparity in success between themselves and Paul, jealousy, self imposed inferiority, a black sheep, etc. might feel invincible and powerful by shooting a gun and or role playing a position of power and importance. Jmo.
 
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