MI MI - Romulus, LIVING BlkFem 40-60, Double Amputee, Names: Cj, Jesse, China Black, May'18

[John/Jane Doe]

China Black Amnesia Victim 2013 | DNA Doe Project

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[Lwieckowicz]

China Black Amnesia Victim 2013 | DNA Doe Project

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Following

 

[Bit of hope]

It looks like they are having a hard time finding out her identity.

China Black Amnesia Victim 2013 | DNA Doe Project

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Link to More Information
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Michigan State Police attempt to identify Metro Detroit woman who doesn't remember her identity
Who is Michigan's first living Jane Doe?

Status: Research in Progress
Image Credit: MSP Metro South Post
Last Updated: May 4, 2022
Posted on February 19, 2021

Patience is the only way.

 

[Lwieckowicz]

It looks like they are having a hard time finding out her identity.

China Black Amnesia Victim 2013 | DNA Doe Project

dnadoeproject.org

Link to More Information
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Michigan State Police attempt to identify Metro Detroit woman who doesn't remember her identity
Who is Michigan's first living Jane Doe?

Status: Research in Progress
Image Credit: MSP Metro South Post
Last Updated: May 4, 2022
Posted on February 19, 2021

Patience is the only way.

She’s going on year 10 of living unidentified so yeah I’d say they’re having a hard time lol or they’re not really trying not sure which

 

[EllaMinnowP]

@iamshadow21, Thanks for mentioning China Black over in the ‘Angel Grace Lnu’ thread.
I had never heard of this intriguing case, but I am following now. It seems she has so many features that should make her identifiable. Can’t believe her case has gone unsolved for so long!

EBM

 

[iamshadow21]

@iamshadow21, Thanks for mentioning China Black over in the ‘Angel Grace Lnu’ thread.
I had never heard of this intriguing case, but I am following now. It seems she has so many features that should make her identifiable. Can’t believe her case has gone unsolved for so long!

EBM

No problem!

When people think of living Does, they tend to think of very young children or infants, or the elderly with some form of dementia. China Black, I think, is a great example of a middle-aged person who has lived a life, who is verbal (unlike our Midland young man), but nonetheless has no idea who she is. China's the one I thought of as an example, but she's far from the only one out there. It's just as important that regular detective work and modern DNA techniques help living Does like China as is it for them to ID the deceased Does we're so much more familiar with.

 

[HmmMysterious]

China Black has a new high match of 211.3 centimorgans per DNA Doe Project's Facebook page. Almost the exact equivalent of a third cousin.

 

[iamshadow21]

China Black has a new high match of 211.3 centimorgans per DNA Doe Project's Facebook page. Almost the exact equivalent of a third cousin.
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Exciting! Hopefully getting closer to an ID.

 

[EmiliaRT007]

So this woman has no clue who she is? How sad would it be to see, hear, and communicate with someone but not know what they should call you. The name is one of the first things given to you. This woman isn’t trying to use aliases for any malicious intent. It’s sad she doesn’t remember. I remember watching my great grandfather deteriorate from dementia. He was just like this almost. He got to a point where he would call himself by a different name. His name was Elias (he was born as Illia, which is a Russian form of the name, he had it changed when he immigrated to the US in his 30s.) and he called himself basically any name he could find that started with E.

 

[EmiliaRT007]

China Black has a new high match of 211.3 centimorgans per DNA Doe Project's Facebook page. Almost the exact equivalent of a third cousin.
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Woohoo! Great update, thanks for sharing.

 

[EmiliaRT007]

No problem!

When people think of living Does, they tend to think of very young children or infants, or the elderly with some form of dementia. China Black, I think, is a great example of a middle-aged person who has lived a life, who is verbal (unlike our Midland young man), but nonetheless has no idea who she is. China's the one I thought of as an example, but she's far from the only one out there. It's just as important that regular detective work and modern DNA techniques help living Does like China as is it for them to ID the deceased Does we're so much more familiar with.

I was a living Jane Doe. Only for a couple days though. I have a seizure disorder, so I need to be very careful. I had asked my mom to go ride my bike on the trails when I had just turned 13. She said yes. I had a 20 minute seizure that knocked me into a comatose state for 2 days. There were a handful of posters put around the trails by locals who found me unconscious. All they knew about me was that I was between 8-11 (actually 13, but I was a late bloomer), 4’10”, 85 lbs, white female with blue eyes and brown hair, surgical scars on the groin, an appendectomy scar, surgical scars on the legs, and a homemade tattoo. My friend, who was 11 at the time, had called the LE because the girl in the poster looked like me. He said he recognized me because of my homemade tattoo. I was ID’d quite quickly because my parents had tracked my phone and saw it was in the hospital. I recovered really fast. It can happen to just about anyone. It’s a really sad situation. I hope she finds out who she is and we do too.

 

[Laura Avery]

Sent this lady in, no photo to compare sadly,not been ruled out, the weight loss and amputees easily to explain by being long term homeless. It's just the names that got my interest and the burns on possible top of left hand, Chinas missing her left finger?
Also did I read somewhere she mentions a "Big al" and "Grand rapids" ? I can't find info for the schools it just posted on one social media school group x The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[relaxininaz]

I help adoptees find their birth parents thru dna testing. I am baffled as to why this hasn't been done. Cece Moore is a world famous dna detective. She could identify this woman's family within days of getting the Ancestry DNA results back. I emailed the detective the information to hire her.
I attempted to look at marriage records, but it is such a common name and we can't narrow it down to a city.

 

[sasha17]

I help adoptees find their birth parents thru dna testing. I am baffled as to why this hasn't been done. Cece Moore is a world famous dna detective. She could identify this woman's family within days of getting the Ancestry DNA results back. I emailed the detective the information to hire her.
I attempted to look at marriage records, but it is such a common name and we can't narrow it down to a city.

China Black is in active research with DNA Doe Project. Sounds like they're getting closer.

China Black has a new high match of 211.3 centimorgans per DNA Doe Project's Facebook page. Almost the exact equivalent of a third cousin.
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Hopefully they'll have answers for her soon. China Black Amnesia Victim 2013 - DNA Doe Project

 

[sudo_someone]

I have a very random question:

Do we know if the Police Department actually CHECKED for a woman named China Black with Michigan ties?

I've been following this case since it came out, and just signed in and saw a notification reply to the thread, so it prompted me to start doing some digging again. (Yay, OSINT).

There is a woman named China Black who is 49 years old, and from Detroit, MI, which I remember hearing that Living Jane Doe China Black may have ties to per DNA Doe Case.

The record doesn't advise China Black is deceased (the search entity normally does tell me), so my interest began to pique further.

Now, self declared Living Jane Doe (LJD) China Black has an estimated age range of 40-60 years per NAMUS.

When I did the search and found an entry for a China Black, this is what REALLY got to me:


There is only ONE address on file for the past TEN YEARS from 2014-2024 for this China Black.

NO email on file, which doesn't surprise me.

NO phone number on file -- AT ALL, which DOES surprise me.

The record doesn't advise that the China Black I found is deceased....and there are also NO associated individuals with this individual, which is ALSO very odd to me.

Normally, when you search these "people" sites, you normally will see associated family members, friends, neighbors, associates.

Hell, even the deceased has folks adjacent to them in the databases (this is common), so the lack of a woman named China Black from Detroit, MI and no information like a phone number or other people to associate to, and she's been living at the same address for ten years....

I just find it odd.

Someone tell me I'm not insane for this please.

I genuinely think about this woman every couple of months, if not weeks at a time.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Perhaps life has been so unkind to this dear soul that she prefers to remain anonymous, and for the time being, safe from harm.
Those of us housed, healthy, and unharmed have much to be grateful for. I know I am.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[sudo_someone]

Perhaps life has been so unkind to this dear soul that she prefers to remain anonymous, and for the time being, safe from harm.
Those of us housed, healthy, and unharmed have much to be grateful for. I know I am.

Amateur opinion and speculation

I hear what you're saying, but the living Jane Doe advised that she can't remember anything after being hit from a car, so I genuinely don't think that's the case, and Sgt Sarah Krebs advised of the difficulty of living without knowing your SSN (or getting the assistance needed as a result of her disabilities now, as she is a double amputee at the knees).

Link posted here: Michigan State Police attempt to identify Metro Detroit woman who doesn't remember her identity

Regardless, I do agree with you in the matter that she is in safer hands being housed, healthy, and with folks hoping she can get her name back. That's something I have gratitude everyday for, especially when I log onto the site.

 

[Laura Avery]

Another new rule out.

 

[Laura Avery]

Sorry I'm not posting links to photos it would then be encouraging social media searches oddly I've always posted unlinked pictures for privacy reasons and they have never been deleted. I'll inform the police I believe I've found who she is.

 

[fidgeypie]

Sorry I'm not posting links to photos it would then be encouraging social media searches oddly I've always posted unlinked pictures for privacy reasons and they have never been deleted. I'll inform the police I believe I've found who she is.

Got my fingers crossed that she's a match