MI MI - Tanner Lucas, Alexander William, & Andrew Ryan Skelton, Morenci, 26 Nov 2010 #3

[SuziQ]

Why of course he is going to fight extradition! He can't just give in and go back to MI, he has to have control! I am so angry right now I could spit nails! (am sitting on fingers-I like WS too much, don't want a banishment!)

I feel your pain!

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

What's the bank account for? I can see needing money for 3 little funerals ( ) but I hope they use the money wisely...

As of now, the boys' bodies haven't been found, so there aren't funeral arrangements being made. I would not donate money to a "family fund" without knowing how the money would be used. Right now, it looks like someone will need to come up with a significant amount of cash to spring JS. I'd be happy to make a contribution at such time that specifics are outlined about the purpose of the bank account. jmo

 

[chasing.halos]

Oh and, how many times have we seen families in complete denial? Scott Peterson's family, Casey Anthony's family......... you would think it wouldn't surprise me but it still does every single time. I have come to the conclusion that family's in denial must raise kids in denial. Not good. I try not to focus on them because it gets ludicrous and it makes me even angrier that people are so clueless.

 

[twall]

JS doesn't want to return to Michigan because he'd likely face murder charges and could get life without parole if convicted. He's only charged with three counts of parental kidnapping in Ohio that carries a minimal penalty, perhaps a year in prison.

Bank account set up for the family. This puzzles me. What's the money for? I hope it's not for the dad's defense fund.

Maybe I am misunderstanding the situation but I thought he didn't have any charges in OH, the kidnapping charges are from MI. I'm not so sure the state is ready to charge him for the murders just yet. He allegedly admitted to FBI agents he killed them but they need more than just his word to charge him for their murders.
He is fighting extradition to be a pain in the you know what and to prolong going back to MI. Typical stall tactic.

JMO

 

[huskiki]

How can this man or his family claim he loved these children when he will not disclose their location? :furious: :curses:

They probably all still believe the boys are with the mystery woman (insert sarcasm here)

His family has to be in denial (or just plain ignorant). If he were my brother I would have been at the jail waiting for him when he got there ...to kick his sorry @#!*%

 

[Java]

I’m guessing “fighting extradition” would be one reason he went to a hosp. In Ohio instead of Michigan??? (if so pre-meditation?)
He wanted to be out of Michigan or there was not a mental facility, other than the one in Ohio?

This guy is a real piece of work!

I so hope something turns up today. Michigan/Ohio snow is probably just like ours, once it starts you don’t see much bare ground again until Spring. That would certainly hamper searches.

 

[Cubby]

As of now, the boys' bodies haven't been found, so there aren't funeral arrangements being made. I would not donate money to a "family fund" without knowing how the money would be used. Right now, it looks like someone will need to come up with a significant amount of cash to spring JS. I'd be happy to make a contribution at such time that specifics are outlined about the purpose of the bank account. jmo

I'm sure some of the funds may be used to assist with the search.
I would also not assume funds are being collected to assist JS. I'm sure they meant the funds to assist the childrens mother. If you've followed other missing persons cases, you'll see it is often difficult for the parents to go back to work. I'm sure the boys mom will need assistance to for day to day life..... In many missing persons cases the persons are simply unable to go back to work. In some they have gone onto lose their homes. (I forget which case specifically, but a missing childs mother lost her home due to the inability to go back to work after her childs disappearance/murder.)

I'm also sure someone will be overseeing how the funds are used and that they are used appropriately.

jmo

 

[huskiki]

As of now, the boys' bodies haven't been found, so there aren't funeral arrangements being made. I would not donate money to a "family fund" without knowing how the money would be used. Right now, it looks like someone will need to come up with a significant amount of cash to spring JS. I'd be happy to make a contribution at such time that specifics are outlined about the purpose of the bank account. jmo

I wonder if it's a fund to support future search efforts since it sounds like things will be scaling down at the end of this week. Just a possibility.

 

[twall]

Cindy A. must have made a trip north to J'ville to serve JS's family her kool-aid. :crazy:

:truce:

:banghead: Geez, what is with these peeps? :furious:

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

http://detnews.com/article/20101201/METRO/12010386/$3M-bond-set-for-father-of-missing-Morenci-boys

 

[Lera213]

He won't tell the cops where the bodies are because decompose isn't enough to hide what he actually did to those boys. He will tell once those bodies decompose much further. MOO

 

[Cubby]

I’m guessing “fighting extradition” would be one reason he went to a hosp. In Ohio instead of Michigan??? (if so pre-meditation?)

Respectfully snipped and BBM. I'm sure it was premeditated once he believed he could not convince his STBX wife to work on the relationship....

The whole fake suicide and having a friend pick him up in MI ( someone pls confirm if the friend picked him up in MI... ) and drive him to OH... really leads me to believe the children are not in OH, but actually in MI. IF he really wanted to kill himself -he bleeping would have. As much as he is not cooperating I really think part of his plan would be to avoid the DP if caught.... though, I don't think he thought he'd be caught..... but I have a feeling the kids are in MI for some reason. Could be wrong....

Are there any searches occuring in MI in addition to OH?

 

[Cubby]

He won't tell the cops where the bodies are because decompose isn't enough to hide what he actually did to those boys. He will tell once those bodies decompose much further. MOO

I have to respectfully disagree. I don't believe he will tell at all..... Casey didn't tell. Why would JS? He'd lose the control he continues to excersize over his STBX if he told.....

 

[Strawberry Fields]

Just have to also wonder if he will be on some kind of suicidal watch in jail/prison while he awaits trial. Could he have actually been released from the psychiatric hospital because he was not "deemed a threat to himself or others?". That seems to be why a person would be released from a psychiatric facility. (of course I know he is a threat to others and himself, too, if he is indeed suicidal) Just wondering about this. Maybe they felt he was beyond help and best for all concerned for him to be behind bars? It would be such a tragedy if he was able to finish himself off before he provides the location of the boys. After that, he can have at it as far as I am concerned. Also, I am sure some other inmates would love to get at him for what he has allegedly done to those children, so they will probably have him in a solitary cell.

 

[neicee7681]

I just started following this yesterday, and think I have read through everything now. I have come up with a few questions and/or theories.

Has anyone said why JS and STBX were divorcing??
Also if he took the kids twice before, why was he still allowed unsupervised visitation with the kids?? I read somewhere that a judge in FL ruled that the kids be returned, but didn't see if there were any charges brought against him then.

I'm wondering if he did do something to the kids, could he have hurt his ankle in the process and that is why he chose hanging as his suicide attempt. It could have been the only one he thought would cover it??
Also, does anyone else think that he would maybe hide the kids somewhere else (with the help of someone else) and go through all of this, saying that he killed the kids, but without them being found. If he makes the mother think that the kids have been killed, maybe he thinks that she will eventually stop looking for them and without bodies being found, maybe he thinks he has a chance of getting off. All just speculations and thoughts that have crossed my mind. I just hope that they are found soon.

 

[Lera213]

I have to respectfully disagree. I don't believe he will tell at all..... Casey didn't tell. Why would JS? He'd lose the control he continues to excersize over his STBX if he told.....

You could be right but I think the first part the reason why he isn't telling them is because of the decomp. I'm thinking he did something really bad to those kids when he was drunk.

 

[huskiki]

"Meanwhile, Tanya Skelton moved forward with her case against John in circuit court, winning sole custody of the kids. In documents released Tuesday, Tanya’s lawyer sites John’s alleged attempt to commit suicide and his refusal to disclose the location of the little boys."

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/skelton-in-jail,-action-news-uncovers-chilling-myspace-entry-from-some-time-ago

It's sad that it has to reach this point to get custody.

 

[Cazzie]

The attitudes of JS' mother and sister go in line with my ongoing suspicion that JS may have handed them off alive to someone (friend, relative, trucker).

Also, his apparent controlling behavior and his game-playing with LE/FBI (the lies, the wild goose chase search tips)...

I still haven't seen a solid MSM article with a quote from LE that he admitted to killing them (just "according to sources, Police Chief Weeks said...").

With all the training of LE, FBI, mental health professionals...is it possible that he could pull off a lie that he killed them (if he said that)?

speculation:

Could the boys be alive? Maybe he thinks that would be the second best way to torture TS...for her (and almost everyone else) to believe the boys are dead but not found. Meanwhile they are alive and would go on to live their lives hidden somewhere until discovered, or old enough to either escape or be on their own. Then they might seek out help and maybe their maternal side of the family.

IF he had handed them off...I would hope that it was to someone who would raise them in a loving home and community. But I have zero confidence that he was capable of making such a good choice. And, of course, IMO, he had no moral or legal right to do such.

It is difficult to come up with a best-case scenario within the confines of what info has been released.

 

[Cubby]

Just have to also wonder if he will be on some kind of suicidal watch in jail/prison while he awaits trial. Could he have actually been released from the psychiatric hospital because he was not "deemed a threat to himself or others?". That seems to be why a person would be released from a psychiatric facility. (of course I know he is a threat to others and himself, too, if he is indeed suicidal) Just wondering about this. Maybe they felt he was beyond help and best for all concerned for him to be behind bars? It would be such a tragedy if he was able to finish himself off before he provides the location of the boys. After that, he can have at it as far as I am concerned. Also, I am sure some other inmates would love to get at him for what he has allegedly done to those children, so they will probably have him in a solitary cell.

Respectfully, a doctors oath supercedes and the professionals would not release him if he was deemed mentally ill and the jail where he would be housed could not provide appropriate mental health services for him. Kind of like how inmates are sent from jail to the hospital.... I'm sure the suicidal tendencies were a load of crap and no treatment was necessary.

Also, while incarcerated they will have to keep him isolated or as I would like to call it on 'GP watch' - because in the GP he'd likely not make it to trial.

He'll sit in jail for as long as they can hold him on whatever charges they can get to stick until he can be charged with the boys murder after they are found, but imo, the Chicago Cubs will have to supercede the number of Yankees world series wins before JS will ever reveal the boys location.

jmo

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I'm sure some of the funds may be used to assist with the search.
I would also not assume funds are being collected to assist JS. I'm sure they meant the funds to assist the childrens mother. If you've followed other missing persons cases, you'll see it is often difficult for the parents to go back to work. I'm sure the boys mom will need assistance to for day to day life..... In many missing persons cases the persons are simply unable to go back to work. In some they have gone onto lose their homes. (I forget which case specifically, but a missing childs mother lost her home due to the inability to go back to work after her childs disappearance/murder.)

I'm also sure someone will be overseeing how the funds are used and that they are used appropriately.

jmo

My DH and I have made generous donations to a number of organizations, family funds, etc. for many years. In one instance, we attended a fund-raising event for which the money was to be used for a specific purpose. We later learned that the medical equipment for which the fundraiser was held was not appropriate for the intended recipient, so the money was used for another purpose. This has left us skeptical about making donations without knowing exactly how the money will be spent. jmo