MI MI - Tanner Lucas, Alexander William, & Andrew Ryan Skelton, Morenci, 26 Nov 2010 #6

[sreshowtime]

Keepinghope...THANK YOU...I personally think it might be a good thought.

I read about that situation. Might as well put a link out, I guess that would be okay?? If not, some mod please snip?

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/03/last-suspect-arrested-in-alleged-militia-plot.html

I am going to surmise that the possibility is strong that there are persons within the general area who might be sympathetic to JS , in the context of what he has alleged..

I have been leaning toward JS family members or acquaintances possibly harboring the boys, but JS talking about an 'organization' has me very curious.

 

[sreshowtime]

(All this is speculation, trying to figure out where those little guys might be.)

If anyone has read the above link, your thoughts on the 2nd sentence in this link
http://detnews.com/article/20101124/METRO/11240390/-1/rss29

and related in this link-
http://www.freep.com/article/20101124/NEWS05/

Anyone else thinking there might a link between 'organization' and militia??

( now please understand, my take on militias are that some are 'good' whereas some are extremists, fanatics, fringe groups...such as the one I have linked to)

 

[2goldfish]

I have been hearing this too. People were saying she did not show emotions. Well I have never lost my children so I do not know how I would be. I know she is a mess. She is medicated to stop forming tears to stop her from getting dehydrated from all the crying. When I stopped to the house we stood and hugged and both sobbed for over 5 minutes, I did the same with her parents. I talk about the situation calm one minute and crying the next myself. You can probably tell I totally support her and her family. I struggle with any thoughts of her haveing any wrong doing in this. I do not believe for a minute she ever would hurt the boys. I actually investigated child abuse for over 7 years and can tell you those boys are not sexually abuse. Maybe I am to close to this situation but this website has been good for me and family. I have an outlet to talk this situation.

bbm that just broke my heart, I am so sorry for her. I know I too would dehydrate crying for my lost children. just kills me to think of it.

 

[Lera213]

organization "Children of the Underground" the founder originally was Faye Yager

No website but I found this and under the "Leaders Tab" there is a woman in Ohio who he could have contacted. Most of the links on the leaders are broken.

http://underwatch.wordpress.com/

Portia Davis is the Executive Directory of the Ross County Network for Children in Ohio. On her guestbook, she uses the term, protective parent that many consider hard evidence that she is the contact in the Midwest for the Underground. She is a member of the National Alliance for Family Court Justice.

 

[Lera213]

Yager has stated that she has Attorney's, Police, Clergy, and many many more professionals in her organization. She has stated that it isn't just for woman too. If I were the police I would seriously look into this organization but if they are in this organization these kids probably will not be found until they reach legal age.

 

[citigirl]

Yager has stated that she has Attorney's, Police, Clergy, and many many more professionals in her organization. She has stated that it isn't just for woman too. If I were the police I would seriously look into this organization but if they are in this organization these kids probably will not be found until they reach legal age.

If that is what JS has done, he can just rot in prison until then...:furious:

 

[Lera213]

If that is what JS has done, he can just rot in prison until then...:furious:

on the main page they talk about some other woman and the BOLD PART (BBM) gave me pause:

As Elizabeth Johnson’s story starts to unravel about the whereabouts of her young son, Baby Gabriel – Is she a self-proclaimed “protective parent” that is willing to stay in jail before disclosing the location of her son similar to Elizabeth Morgan? Or is she a lying and heinous child killer like Susan Smith?

 

[sreshowtime]

something interesting I ran across researching this a.m. for your perusal
http://www.bacausa.com/Internet/AboutBACA.php
snipped-
this little blurb stood out-
"We do not condone the use of violence or physical force in any manner, however, if circumstances arise such that we are the only obstacle preventing a child from further abuse, we stand ready to be that obstacle."

 

[sreshowtime]

anyone else got any ideas for 'organization' ??


Could be interesting looking at JS while thinking of Nietzsche

 

[Blue Eyed Chick]

Could they consider the online gaming folks an "organization"? It surely falls under "community". Some online gamers have very skewed ideas of what is socially acceptable, IMO.

 

[Keepinghope]

At the restruant at the eastern edge of town was their usual sign of specials but at the top it read "Morenci is Alive with Hope" I thought that was pretty cool.

 

[LaLaw2000]

I just want to say that I live in Toledo, Ohio... as I was reading previous post, a poster said that Toledo is filled with "scumbags".. I find that highly insulting.. Maybe he/she associates with such a crowd.. I am a single mother who has struggled through alot to keep a roof over our heads.. and yes, I raised my children in a mobile home park.. we had a roof over our heads, and I worked... My children are grown now, but we made it...
My son is on his way home from Afghanistan, where he has been for a year.. Not many options for us "scumbags" to make a living... We can't afford to set aside money for college, we need to pay our bills to stay warm and dry...
The rich sit at their beautifully decorated tables with their family...
I ask for a food basket and pray for my son, who is in danger everyday fighting for all of us... and he's not at our table...!!

O/T

Right on, froginTtown! GB you and your family, and a big thank you to your son for serving our country!!! Welcome home to your son and his fellow soldiers! They are my heros! And you are a great person for doing what you did as a single mother. Looks like you were successful at raising good children even though it was so hard to be a single mom.

No town has nothing but scumbags. I do not know where that was said or why it was said, but that was wrong, IMO.

Merry Christmas to you and your family! May your holiday be warm and filled with love! So very happy that your son is on his way home to all of you!

 

[LaLaw2000]

If that is what JS has done, he can just rot in prison until then...:furious:

I agree, and if this is an organization that will not return those boys for fear of the organization members being identified, then why does JS not call for them to just take them somewhere safe and let them go? They could remain anonymous. They would surely know by now that whatever JS may have told them was a lie.

I think JS is FOS and that those boys are no longer with us. Sorry, I believe in hope as much as anyone, but if those boys coats were left at JS's home, then I do not think they are alive.

I also hope that JS rots in prison! He is refusing to talk, so just leave him there.

IMO

 

[LaLaw2000]

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Motorcycle Organizations? I belong to some motorcycle organizations and know of people in several others and I really don't think they are about hiding children. Even the 1% motorcyle clubs (Hells Angels, Banditos, Mongrels etc) are not going to hide children. If JS were a member of one of those groups, we would have heard about it by now.

Militia group, now that may be something else.

I agree, Pollywog.
JS does not belong to some bad-azz motorcycle gang. He has the wrong type motorcycle. The gangs and the hard nose real Harley riders have a souped up/chopped motorcycle like Peter Fonda. The motorcycle JS has/had would stand out like a sore thumb in a gang.

Remember the movie 'Wild Hogs' with John Travolta? Well, their motorcycles were not the bad boy motorcycles. I have two brothers who are business professionals who have the luxury Harleys. There is everything you can imagine on them, and they go to Harley Bike Week in Daytona, Florida every year. They also have the nice enclosed trailers they transport their motorcycles in. They are razzed every year because they do not ride their motorcycles into Daytona. The die hards ride their cycles hundreds of miles to get there. My brothers also ride for charities and escorts military funerals. Good group of guys, IMO.

I have seen a pic of JS's motorcycle and it is just not a badazz one, IMO. I just do not see him with that motorcycle belonging to any club that would condone hiding children. So that one is out at least for me.

I just think that JS got into drugs and online gaming (fantasy) and just started thinking illogically. IMO, JS is a spiteful, mean person who was losing everything and just decided to do the very worst thing he could do. Suicide? No, because if someone is serious about killing themselves, they do not screw up like he says he did, IMO.

Sorry for the long winded post.

MOO's

 

[catydid]

I doubt JS was in a militia. His MS profile would have screamed it. He would have had the don't tread on me flag, pics of all his guns that he doesn't want "TPTB" to take away, and other militia friends. He wasn't in any militia.

 

[sreshowtime]

I doubt JS was in a militia. His MS profile would have screamed it. He would have had the don't tread on me flag, pics of all his guns that he doesn't want "TPTB" to take away, and other militia friends. He wasn't in any militia.

Oh I am not thinking he was actually IN one, but maybe had acquaintances who might be or who knew people that are.

Those different militias have training camps...places to hide.
Or if he were aware of these places, perfect place to hide bodies?

 

[Wondergirl]

I would like to know what proof the family has been given that the boys are with an organization?

They seem to believe it.

Pretty much everything John Skelton has said or done has been proven to be a lie, hasn't it? What do they think about that, I wonder?

Surely they are not going on his word alone, right?

If they are, why are they allowing so many people to be going through torture and heartbreak, wondering about those boys?

Where are those precious boys?

Stop the games.

 

[sreshowtime]

goodnite little guys- you are being thought of...maybe this week you will come home

 

[catydid]

I would like to know what proof the family has been given that the boys are with an organization?

They seem to believe it.

Pretty much everything John Skelton has said or done has been proven to be a lie, hasn't it? What do they think about that, I wonder?

Surely they are not going on his word alone, right?

If they are, why are they allowing so many people to be going through torture and heartbreak, wondering about those boys?

Where are those precious boys?

Stop the games.

That's why I'm thinking they know more than we do. They don't seem to doubt him at all. I think those boys are with his family somewhere, or at least a close family friend.

 

[citigirl]

In this article just released in a local paper, Tanya Skelton does plead with the people who she believes has the boys. Also (sbm) "Tanya Skelton said her intuition still tells her “that my boys are alive and they’re with someone they know.”

http://www.lenconnect.com/breaking/x998474496/Missing-boys-mother-says-she-believes-theyre-alive-pleads-for-their-return