MI - Updates On Stanley Case-2008

[the bumblebug]

Bumblebug is back.

During the first session of the bond hearing the lead investigaztor testigied the following:

 

[the bumblebug]

During the first session of the hearing the lead investigator testified to the following.
1. James was interviewed for more than an hour in Richmond and it was taped.
2. The investigator asked another officer to conduct a detailed interview on the Stanleys. They were separated and each asked approximately 7 questions.
3. Even after the investigator was advised that Erin had probably been strangled, he did not ask for a sexual assault kit to be run nor did he ask that scrapings be taken from underneath Erin's fingernails to see if tissue, DNA, fiberts etc. might be collected that could lead them to a probable suspect.
4. The investigator said that Kelly Stanleys only role during the investigation was to help him get access to Erin's web page. She provided him her password so that he could then access Erins site via her guest status on that site.
5. The bed sheet on which Erin and James slept was collected shortly after the incident and place in a trash bag and stored in the garage. The investigator collected the sheet a few days later when he came to ask more questions of the family.
6. During the second session, Lonny Stanley testified that the night before Erin's death, she and Dale had gone to the Brown Jug for a few drinks. She indicated that they stayed there between 1 and 1 1/2 hours. She further indicated that she had had 1 White Russion before going to the tavern and had 3 while she was there. She also indicated that Dale had
drank 10 beers while they were at the tavern.

It is my sincere hope that if anyone had a different version of the testimony they will post it on this threat. I have no desire to incorrectly state what has taken place during these first two session. I know there is more....it's just my brain is tired.

 

[Busylady]

Sounds like they are gonna have a rough time providing any evidence in this case. No DNA, fibers etc, sheets left at the scene for two days??? What police force does that? If they took the time to collect them why store them at the house? I just don't get it.

Everyones alcohol tolerance is different but 3 White Russians and 10 beers in an 1 1/2 hours would definelty impair most I think, which would make any details they provided maybe questioned?

As I have said before and I realize its not a popular statement something about this whole thing just doesnt seem right. I really hope James isnt getting blamed because he is an easy target.

 

[the bumblebug]

One small correction: It was Lonnie that had the three White Russians and Dale that had the 10 beers at the tavern. Lonny also said she had one White Russian before she and Dale went to the tavern. For what its worth the top sheet and blanket that was on the bed where James and Erin slept doesn't appear to have been collected at the site and is lost or has been thrown out. That testimony also came from the investigator.

 

[the bumblebug]

Lonny Stanley said that she and Dale went to the Brown Jug tavern about once a week. I know there were a lot of individuals that wanted to know about what happened to Kelly Stanley's body. Lonny said that Kelly's body was cremated just like Erin's. Again I ask if anyone that might have attended the hearing and has a different take on what was said, please post. I am sure everyone would be anxious to hear.

 

[MCDRAW]

Sounds like they are gonna have a rough time providing any evidence in this case. No DNA, fibers etc, sheets left at the scene for two days??? What police force does that? If they took the time to collect them why store them at the house? I just don't get it.

Everyones alcohol tolerance is different but 3 White Russians and 10 beers in an 1 1/2 hours would definelty impair most I think, which would make any details they provided maybe questioned?

As I have said before and I realize its not a popular statement something about this whole thing just doesnt seem right. I really hope James isnt getting blamed because he is an easy target.

I agree.

 

[Indy Gal]

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Sounds like they are gonna have a rough time providing any evidence in this case. No DNA, fibers etc, sheets left at the scene for two days??? What police force does that? If they took the time to collect them why store them at the house? I just don't get it.

Everyones alcohol tolerance is different but 3 White Russians and 10 beers in an 1 1/2 hours would definelty impair most I think, which would make any details they provided maybe questioned?

As I have said before and I realize its not a popular statement something about this whole thing just doesnt seem right. I really hope James isnt getting blamed because he is an easy target.

 

[Taximom]

Thank you so much for the updates, bumblebug.

 

[HAWG]

Now I have more questions?
1) Why didnt they scrap her nails?
2) Why didnt they seal the bedroom if they thought she was strangled?
3) What time did they go to the Brown Jug, and what time did they get home?
4) Did they see Erin after they returned?

I will have more they just have not hit me yet.
Thank you for the update bumblebug!!!

 

[the bumblebug]

HAWG
You'll have to ask the lead investigator regarding Q #1 This came from his own testimony
Q-2 Again you will have to ask the lead investigator
Q-3 I believe Lonny said they went there early in the evening
Q-4 I don't know if they saw Erin after they returned
Note: I am even more concerned about why they didn't run a sexual assault kit. There is a lot more that did not make it into the local paper.
Anyone out there know why?

 

[the bumblebug]

During Lonny Stanley's testimony she was asked about James and his behavior toward Erin and the Stanley family in general. More specifically, she was asked if she had ever seen James violent or if she had ever seen him threaten anyone. She said she had not seen him violent or threaten anyone. When asked about the specific night Erin and James returned from Ohio, Lonny said that nothing out of the ordinary had occurred. Lonny was then asked about the "the stressful day' comment heard on the 911 tape. She said that what she meant pertained to the long trip to Columbus Ohio and back and the cleaning out of space in the house space for James, Erin's and Alexis' things. She said there were no threats or arguments among James, Erin, Dale or herself. She also said that Kelly's visit to a friends house was just that. Kelly just asked if she could spend the night at a friends house and was told it would be OK. comment: I was just thinking about Alexis and I sure hope she is doing OK...I know that about a week ago an intoxicated mother passed out and rolled over on top of her 2 year old and the baby suffocated. Any feedback would be welcome.

 

[Taximom]

Thanks again, bumblebug. I would like to know if the parents were allowing James to stay there or if he had to move out. I thought I remembered hearing he had to leave by the next day.

Then there was the "argument" a neighbor heard. I wonder if there will be testimony about that?

 

[the bumblebug]

I too heard that there had been an argument that had been heard by a neighbor. I also remember hearing that he was asked to leave. I don't think Lonny's testimony included any comments about the argument. Please remember I am only referencing what came out of testimony...I am not in search of anything beyond that because that would be conjecture. I thin Lonny's testimony did cover the issue of James taking care of the baby when the parents accompanied Erin to the hospital. She did say that the baby was left with James. In all honesty I find Lonny's testimony compelling with respect the immediate mood within the house before Erin's death and immediately after the Stanleys left for the hospital. Does their behavior suggest to anybody that they thought there was any reason to believe James was involved. If anyone living in Wayne county has a different take on what I have posted. Please post your ideas. I'm having a hard time making sense of this case based on testimony given thus far.

 

[Taximom]

Oh, I know, bumblebug. I was just wondering out loud. I suppose they'll call that neighbor if they are really interested in that.

I'd have to go back over all the threads to remember all that I once knew about this case! lol So far it does not sound like James was a danger to anyone. Just IMO from what I'm seeing here. I wish they had transcripts or video available....

 

[the bumblebug]

Taximom
I imagine that a transcript can be obtained but it might take a little time and cost a few pennies since it will probably have to be transcribed and put into a more readable form. Again I want to emphasize that the information I have posted came from testimony given in the first two sessions of the bond hearing. Needless to say that there is still a lot more to be said by others on the witness lists. I think Dale Stanley will be next after Lonny finishes. If I come up with more I will share it.

 

[Taximom]

Thanks for all you are doing, bumblebug!! :blowkiss:

 

[HAWG]

Thank you bumblebug!!!

How is James holding up?
The more I here about this the more I think that this is a big mess. It wasnt handled very professional!!! I just dont think they have what it is going to take to convict him.

 

[the bumblebug]

I just made another post and this time it was on the Suspect James McFarland thread.

 

[the bumblebug]

HAWG and others
Today Dale Stanley testified as did the coroner. We now apparently know that even though everyone was told at the autopsy that Erin (a 19 year old female) died under suspicious circumstances. Neither the investigator, the coroner nor the pathologist thought it might be a good idea to comb the body for hair, threads etc. run a sexual assault kit (rape Kit) on the body or collect scrapings from the fingernails that might help in one way or another determine who might have assaulted or otherwise choked this young lady. I believe there will be one more session with Lonny Stanley to finish up questioning that was completed at the last questioning. For Wayne county residence Have you seen any of these items reported in the local media lately.

 

[Taximom]

Oh boy, bumblebug. I'm half for letting him off just because they did such a shoddy job. The defense will have a blast with this.

Thanks again! :blowkiss: