Found Deceased MI - Venus Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - #10 *D. Stewart guilty*

[PickieChickie]

Here is my reply from a close family friend of Larry and Theresa McComb about when Theresa left to go to work:

Theresa left for work at approx. 5:30 AM. Doug Stewart would have known this as she has worked at the same place for 15 years.

The older two grandchildren living with the McCombs got on the bus at 7:00.

In my opinion, Doug would have had to call the house near 8:00 as it would have been suspicious that the postal carrier would have come any earlier.

The house sits on the river and the back yard and driveway face the road.

The front of the home faces the river with alot of windows, the back of the house has none.

Apparently Doug was waiting for the school bus to pick up the two older grandchildren living with the McCombs. (School bus arrived at 7:00 AM.) Once he saw the bus drive off, he hopped into the truck, sped off and drove directly to the McCombs where he called Venus pretending to be the mailman with a package.

I now believe the abduction and murder took place around 7:05 to 7:15 AM.

"A neighbor told police that at about 7 a.m. April 26, she spotted a “light gray colored” pickup truck with four doors parked in a field near her residence and that a white male was “crouched behind” the vehicle. Five minutes later, the truck was gone, the search warrant affidavit says."
SOURCE - Kalamazoo Gazette (4th paragraph): http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2010/05/tire_marks_where_venus_stewart.html

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[blackdog]

You probably need to cut and past this in the upper address area.

http://fwix.com/grandrapids/share/fdedb1205a/dramatic_testimony_in_stewart_case

 

[PickieChickie]

Thanks blackdog!

Spencer says he lied to his parents in April about where he was going on spring break so that he could hang out with Stewart in Virginia.

During Spencer's testimony he explained how Stewart tried to convince him to help with his alibi shortly after the two met in person for the first time.

“I want you to pretend to be me, to be my alibi,” said Spencer. “I want you to stay in my apartment and use my credit card.”

Spencer said he at first resisted the idea.

“I told him, no dude, **** that ****, I don't want to get involved with this, don't even talk to me about it again,” said Spencer.

Over the next several days Spencer said Stewart wore him down.
Spencer says Stewart even demonstrated how he planned to strangle his wife.

“He did it for like two seconds and I was out of breath,” said Spencer, “and he was telling me, you do that for ten seconds, the person passes out, you do it for over 30 seconds the person is dead.”

News Channel 3 http://fwix.com/grandrapids/share/fdedb1205a/dramatic_testimony_in_stewart_case

 

[Natal]

Excellent work. I think Ricky Spencer was mistaken when he stated Doug Stewart arrived home at 7:00 PM. That would be absolutely impossible, even if he took the 12 hour route because it is 12 hours between 7:00 AM and 7:00 PM and Doug clearly stated he had to dig another hole, unless Doug was lying to Ricky. Even then he would have needed time to put the dirt back in the hole and make the area look undisturbed.

You are assuming that RS is telling the truth, IMO there is a high probability that he has serious mental issues. There is a saying that incredible claims require incredible evidence, so if the prosecutor is going to rely on this guy's testimony he had better hope that LE is digging up lots of corroboration.

Aside from the bizarreness of having someone you have never met come help you conduct a kidnapping/murder, why would DS feel the need to provide any details to RS at all? All he would need from him to do was to pretend to be DS for a while, and then go away.

 

[Natal]

Thanks blackdog!

Spencer says he lied to his parents in April about where he was going on spring break so that he could hang out with Stewart in Virginia.

During Spencer's testimony he explained how Stewart tried to convince him to help with his alibi shortly after the two met in person for the first time.

“I want you to pretend to be me, to be my alibi,” said Spencer. “I want you to stay in my apartment and use my credit card.”

Spencer said he at first resisted the idea.

“I told him, no dude, **** that ****, I don't want to get involved with this, don't even talk to me about it again,” said Spencer.

Over the next several days Spencer said Stewart wore him down.
Spencer says Stewart even demonstrated how he planned to strangle his wife.

“He did it for like two seconds and I was out of breath,” said Spencer, “and he was telling me, you do that for ten seconds, the person passes out, you do it for over 30 seconds the person is dead.”

News Channel 3http://fwix.com/grandrapids/share/fdedb1205a/dramatic_testimony_in_stewart_case

So how long was Spencer in Virginia then?

 

[PickieChickie]

You are assuming that RS is telling the truth, IMO there is a high probability that he has serious mental issues. There is a saying that incredible claims require incredible evidence, so if the prosecutor is going to rely on this guy's testimony he had better hope that LE is digging up lots of corroboration.

Aside from the bizarreness of having someone you have never met come help you conduct a kidnapping/murder, why would DS feel the need to provide any details to RS at all? All he would need from him to do was to pretend to be DS for a while, and then go away.

Honestly, it doesn't matter when Doug Stewart got home. We were just trying to figure out where Doug buried Venus.

Ricky Spencer was approached with the idea of being the impostor while he was staying in Doug Stewart's home during Spring break for about two weeks.

Because their online relationship began clear back in 2008, it wasn't like they were complete strangers.

 

[PickieChickie]

So how long was Spencer in Virginia then?

Spencer says he lied to his parents in April about where he was going on spring break so that he could hang out with Stewart in Virginia.

During Spencer's testimony he explained how Stewart tried to convince him to help with his alibi shortly after the two met in person for the first time.

“I want you to pretend to be me, to be my alibi,” said Spencer. “I want you to stay in my apartment and use my credit card.”

Spencer said he at first resisted the idea.

“I told him, no dude, **** that ****, I don't want to get involved with this, don't even talk to me about it again,” said Spencer.

Over the next several days Spencer said Stewart wore him down.

“My wife is mentally hurting my kids and physically hurting my kids,” said Spencer. “He was like all I want to do is protect them and at that point I told him, okay dude, I'll be your alibi.”

MY REPLY: It appears he was there for at least four days.

Source for quote: http://fwix.com/grandrapids/share/fdedb1205a/dramatic_testimony_in_stewart_case

 

[Natal]

Honestly, it doesn't matter when Doug Stewart got home. We were just trying to figure out where Doug buried Venus.

Ricky Spencer was approached with the idea of being the impostor while he was staying in Doug Stewart's home during Spring break for about two weeks.

Because their online relationship began clear back in 2008, it wasn't like they were complete strangers.

It does matter when he got home because (depending on whether LE has evidence that irrefutably places either men at various places, or how strong that evidence is, if it exists) it is possible that there was no imposter and it was Spencer that was in Michigan. Since he had access to DS's property, and no doubt was fully aware of DS's relationship with Venus, and if he is nuts then it is quite concievable that he may be the perp. Remember the strange behaviour of aquaman, who's ID sketch bears a remarkable similarity to Spencer? When aquaman was first reported, I dismissed it as a local oddball since it didnt seem reasonable for the incident to be related, but now I know about Spencer I'm not so sure about that.

That is why I think that LE really need to corroborate what this guy is saying, because this case may be even stranger than what it appears to be now.

 

[BeanE]

You are assuming that RS is telling the truth, IMO there is a high probability that he has serious mental issues. There is a saying that incredible claims require incredible evidence, so if the prosecutor is going to rely on this guy's testimony he had better hope that LE is digging up lots of corroboration.

Aside from the bizarreness of having someone you have never met come help you conduct a kidnapping/murder, why would DS feel the need to provide any details to RS at all? All he would need from him to do was to pretend to be DS for a while, and then go away.

BBM. Indeed they do. What mental disorder gives one knowledge of the details and circumstances of a murder that one did not commit and could not know unless told them by the murderer? I've never heard of that one.

 

[believe09]

Oh I think RS is going to require some corroberation, BUT, it all comes back again to the fact that DS had someone impersonate him so he could drive to MI. VS did disappear.

My guess is that LE has her cell phone record or the Mccomb's phone records of the phone call into the home at 710AM from the disposable phone.

Venus must have been terrified when she realized who lured her out of the house.

 

[grayjay]

You are assuming that RS is telling the truth, IMO there is a high probability that he has serious mental issues. There is a saying that incredible claims require incredible evidence, so if the prosecutor is going to rely on this guy's testimony he had better hope that LE is digging up lots of corroboration.

Aside from the bizarreness of having someone you have never met come help you conduct a kidnapping/murder, why would DS feel the need to provide any details to RS at all? All he would need from him to do was to pretend to be DS for a while, and then go away.

I don't find RS claims incredible. To me he comes off as very credible, actually.

 

[PickieChickie]

It does matter when he got home because (depending on whether LE has evidence that irrefutably places either men at various places, or how strong that evidence is, if it exists) it is possible that there was no imposter and it was Spencer that was in Michigan. Since he had access to DS's property, and no doubt was fully aware of DS's relationship with Venus, and if he is nuts then it is quite concievable that he may be the perp. Remember the strange behaviour of aquaman, who's ID sketch bears a remarkable similarity to Spencer? When aquaman was first reported, I dismissed it as a local oddball since it didnt seem reasonable for the incident to be related, but now I know about Spencer I'm not so sure about that.

That is why I think that LE really need to corroborate what this guy is saying, because this case may be even stranger than what it appears to be now.

It has been reported to the media law enforcement can absolutely place Doug Stewart in Michigan when he claimed to be home in Newport News, Virginia.

It has also been reported the Michigan State Police went to the Ohio Walmart to review the security camera footage and that it was Doug Stewart who purchased the hat, gloves, tarp and shovel.

Doug Stewart was not at work the day Venus disappeared.

The people who want so much for the county prosecutor to not have enough evidence to prove it was indeed Doug Stewart who murdered Venus are going to be very disappointed.

There are some apparent advocates of Doug on this thread, which is their right. However, sad to say, it isn't looking too good for their guy.

 

[spamelope]

I do find some of the statements incredible.
"Approximately a week before Venus disappeared, Spencer says Stewart drove to Michigan, with plans to kill his wife.

“Early morning the next day he calls me and he's pissed off. He told me he got pulled over by a cop because he was drifting,” said Spencer. “So they had him in the records that he was in Michigan and the plan was off.” http://fwix.com/grandrapids/share/fdedb1205a/dramatic_testimony_in_stewart_case
THe week before was the custody hearing so Doug had a legitimate reason to be in MI anyway. He said Doug got home at 7 pm that night-I can understand being off by an hour, but 2 or more?
I was out of town and haven't watched the video yet. That just jumped out at me from reading a few articles and trying to catch up here.
OT-Hope everyone has a great and safe holiday weekend. Happy Birthday, America!

 

[PickieChickie]

So how long was Spencer in Virginia then?

“A few days later he (Stewart) found out that Children’s Services was doing an investigation on him.” At that point, the Xbox sessions again intensified, Spencer said. He said that Stewart began asking him to go visit him in Newport News. Spencer agreed to do so over Spring Break the first week in April.


Spencer said his visit at Stewart’s continued on until Sunday, April 11, at which point he returned to Delaware. Early in the next week, a custody hearing was to be held in Michigan. Spencer said that Stewart told him that he wanted “to do it” on that Thursday.

Source Three Rivers Commercial News: http://threeriversnews.com/articles/2010/07/02/news/local_news/doc4c2def66eda57594938158.txt

 

[spamelope]

"The people who want so much for the county prosecutor to not have enough evidence to prove it was indeed Doug Stewart who murdered Venus are going to be very disappointed.

There are some apparent advocates of Doug on this thread, which is their right. However, sad to say, it isn't looking too good for their guy."
SBM
Pickie, I am not a Doug advocate and he is not my "guy". When LE was saying that he was the one and only POI in the disappearance of VS, there were those of us who realized there had to be one, if not two, accomplices. There are many contradictions in this case. We have tried to envision all possibilities in this case, and have looked at it from many different angles. This has been one of the most interesting cases I've ever read about. Since RS didn't drive one of the vehicles back from MI, there still has to be yet another accomplice. I guess we are supposed to assume it was G-pa S who is involved, which I find kind of incredible. Watching him drive one of the kids on the tractor makes it hard for me to believe he conspired to kill her mother, but of course, anything is possible.

 

[grayjay]

"The people who want so much for the county prosecutor to not have enough evidence to prove it was indeed Doug Stewart who murdered Venus are going to be very disappointed.

There are some apparent advocates of Doug on this thread, which is their right. However, sad to say, it isn't looking too good for their guy."
SBM
Pickie, I am not a Doug advocate and he is not my "guy". When LE was saying that he was the one and only POI in the disappearance of VS, there were those of us who realized there had to be one, if not two, accomplices. There are many contradictions in this case. We have tried to envision all possibilities in this case, and have looked at it from many different angles. This has been one of the most interesting cases I've ever read about. Since RS didn't drive one of the vehicles back from MI, there still has to be yet another accomplice. I guess we are supposed to assume it was G-pa S who is involved, which I find kind of incredible. Watching him drive one of the kids on the tractor makes it hard for me to believe he conspired to kill her mother, but of course, anything is possible.

BBM

This part strongly reminds me of the Josh Powell family dynamic and how they'd say the acorn doesn't fall far from the oak tree.

I'm not finding a lot that's incredible here, except the energy and thought some people will put into getting what they want at all human costs.

 

[PickieChickie]

"The people who want so much for the county prosecutor to not have enough evidence to prove it was indeed Doug Stewart who murdered Venus are going to be very disappointed.

There are some apparent advocates of Doug on this thread, which is their right. However, sad to say, it isn't looking too good for their guy."
SBM
Pickie, I am not a Doug advocate and he is not my "guy". When LE was saying that he was the one and only POI in the disappearance of VS, there were those of us who realized there had to be one, if not two, accomplices. There are many contradictions in this case. We have tried to envision all possibilities in this case, and have looked at it from many different angles. This has been one of the most interesting cases I've ever read about. Since RS didn't drive one of the vehicles back from MI, there still has to be yet another accomplice. I guess we are supposed to assume it was G-pa S who is involved, which I find kind of incredible. Watching him drive one of the kids on the tractor makes it hard for me to believe he conspired to kill her mother, but of course, anything is possible.

I didn't have you in mind when I composed my post regarding the apparent Doug advocates.

 

[spamelope]

I didn't have you in mind when I composed my post regarding the apparent Doug advocates.

Phew! lol
I'm not so sure how I feel about this new info, though. Such a strange case.
ETA Just want to clarify that not being convinced of someone's guilt doesn't necessarily mean that you personally like the person in question. There are still some things that don't jive. I can't wait for more info to come out. I go back and forth on this case and I admit it's got me perplexed.

 

[spamelope]

BBM

This part strongly reminds me of the Josh Powell family dynamic and how they'd say the acorn doesn't fall far from the oak tree.

I'm not finding a lot that's incredible here, except the energy and thought some people will put into getting what they want at all human costs.

It's kind of scary to think that at least 2-3 people would be so helpful in murdering someone.

 

[Natal]

BBM. Indeed they do. What mental disorder gives one knowledge of the details and circumstances of a murder that one did not commit and could not know unless told them by the murderer? I've never heard of that one.

If you do something yourself you would know all the details.

Another way is that you could read the internet (such as this site), find out the current prevailing theories and fill in the gaps with unverifiable information. Then you would appear "credible" because you are fulfilling peoples expectations.

Bottom line is that they will need strong corroboration on this guy.