Found Deceased MI - Venus Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - # 4 *D. Stewart guilty*

[panthera]

I know you're not talking to me, but since I've had too much coffee, I thought I would respond lol. I do think they saw the Sable. I think if the Sable weren't involved, it would have been in DS's parking spot when LE went to the NN apartment. Someone wouldn't be playing musical vehicles with it. And since blood was found in it, it would APPEAR that it is yet another crime scene in this case. TM already dismissed the blood in the truck as being DS's.

So both vehicles possibly were in MI at the same time Venus was abducted. If true, I'd like to hear what DS' explanation is, unless he's going to say he was moving back there anyway, but then again, why would they be back in VA when they were located? :waitasec: MOO

 

[Marinemom]

WHY? What is your best guess?

Venus's father was asleep and stated he was annoyed because the children were being so loud they woke him up.

Why didn't Venus give the letter to her mother to mail?

Why didn't Venus put the letter in the mail box before her mother left for work?

Why didn't Venus wait until her father woke up to mail the letter?

Why did Venus leave the children in the house, while her father was asleep, to mail the letter?

Why didn't Venus take the children with her to the mail box?

What time does the mail carrier routinely pick up mail at Venus's parent's home?

How many feet/yards is it to the mail box from the house?

Where is the letter Venus supposedly tried to mail?

PLEASE don't respond with "Only Venus knows". ​

I believe the answer to nearly all of the questions above, is that VS felt 'safe' at her parents home, and thought no harm would come to her or the children by just going to the end of the driveway to the mailbox. I think it just wasn't a 'big deal' to go out and mail a letter....just like the rest of us. (.....and she probably 'thought' DS was hundreds of miles away and no threat to her at that time) JMO

 

[panthera]

The mailbox is 80 feet from the house. That's the only question I can answer.

I'll just expand on your post and answer what I can from the original question ~ why she didn't wait for her dad to get up ~ that Venus probably didn't think she'd be out of the house that long so as for the children to make such a commotion that would waken her dad. MOO

 

[Marinemom]

My guess is the children were still in bed and she did not think she was in moment-by-moment danger...even if someone is fearful, putting a letter or bill in the mailbox may not seem dangerous; as far as she knew, the person she feared was several states away. Why should going out to the mailbox be a dangerous activity? And she may have still been writnig the letter and/or check she was planning to mail when her mother left. I don't think she was thinking of danger at this hour of the morning even if she was scared of DS. It's bright daylight, you aren't leaving your property-I don't recall reading that she never left the home at all since arriving, but I may have missed it. And why would she take the children? She wasn't leaving, she was stepping outside the house. JMO

I completely agree with all of this post!!! She 'probably' thought it was probably 'no big issue or threat' to just run out and mail a letter. Especially since DS was thought to be hundreds of miles away.

 

[pufnstuf]

It was described as "late evening". Evening is the period of time around sunset. They didn't provide exact times, but the phrase "evening" tells us approximately when it must have happened.

Risko said Douglas Stewart, whom police were able to contact by phone late Monday night in Newport News, Va., where he resides, is a “person of interest” in his wife’s disappearance.

http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2010/04/michigan_state_police_remain_h.html

 

[pufnstuf]

Questions that need to be answered:

1) Did Doug call from his cell phone on Sunday?
2) Was Doug at work on Monday?
3) What is the substance of his alibi?

 

[pufnstuf]

And one more thing:

I want to read the affidavit for the search warrants. Anyone near Newport News want to run down to the clerk and grab us a copy?

 

[panthera]

Risko said Douglas Stewart, whom police were able to contact by phone late Monday night in Newport News, Va., where he resides, is a “person of interest” in his wife’s disappearance.

http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2010/04/michigan_state_police_remain_h.html

I'd also like to know if they contacted him on his cell phone or land line. MOO

 

[panthera]

Questions that need to be answered:

1) Did Doug call from his cell phone on Sunday?
2) Was Doug at work on Monday?
3) What is the substance of his alibi?

LE most likely has all those answers but they're not sharing with us!

 

[pufnstuf]

I have a lot of personal perspective on the topic of spousal abuse, but I won't offer it up, because it's anecdotal--and personal. I will say, though, AGAIN, that the history is irrelevant when we look at the fact that Venus did the right thing. She got out and took the children. She left a written record of what she and the girls had been through. She filed for and received a protective order. She did everything that the law would allow. And now SHE is the one who is missing, and presumably dead.

 

[pufnstuf]

LE most likely has all those answers but they're not sharing with us!

I know that the affidavit can be perused by the public...it's just getting our hands on it. I wish wish wish that we could get a copy!

 

[BeanE]

To recap,

Dont forget that the only night he has missed calling the children would be the day Venus disappeared (hink)

That would be because LE was talking to him when he was supposed to be calling them. (un-hink)

I haven't seen that he was talking to LE at the time he was supposed to call his kids.

May I have a link for that please? I'd like to read about it.

It was described as "late evening". Evening is the period of time around sunset. They didn't provide exact times, but the phrase "evening" tells us approximately when it must have happened.

Risko said Douglas Stewart, whom police were able to contact by phone late Monday night in Newport News, Va., where he resides, is a “person of interest” in his wife’s disappearance.

http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2010/04/michigan_state_police_remain_h.html

Thank you, puf.

 

[RubyRed]

Thank you, Ruby. If I recall correctly, the father was quoted as saying he was really annoyed because the children woke him up. I suspect it had been made very clear that Venus was to keep the children quiet in the mornings so her father could sleep, especially since it was revealed one of the girls was an early riser. Because of that, and if there had been a problem in the past with the father getting annoyed because of being awakened too early, one would think she would have taken the girl with her outside rather than leave her in the house to wake up the grouchy father and possibly the other sibling.

Do we know what time Venus's father was awakened because of the noisy children?

Stewart, 32, was last seen in her pajamas outside the residence around 7 a.m. Monday.

I am thinking this is the Mom who saw her. Does anyone remember when the Mom left for work?

abducted her between 7:10 and 8:30 a.m

8:30 is when I think the Father got up and she was gone. jmo


http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2010/04/michigan_state_police_remain_h.html

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/sw_mich/Missing-mom-wouldnt-leave-on-her-own

 

[mommame]

Thank you, Ruby. If I recall correctly, the father was quoted as saying he was really annoyed because the children woke him up. I suspect it had been made very clear that Venus was to keep the children quiet in the mornings so her father could sleep, especially since it was revealed one of the girls was an early riser. Because of that, and if there had been a problem in the past with the father getting annoyed because of being awakened too early, one would think she would have taken the girl with her outside rather than leave her in the house to wake up the grouchy father and possibly the other sibling.

Do we know what time Venus's father was awakened because of the noisy children?

I have to comment on this post ( Sorry, not trying to be snarky) But............About the father not wanting to be awakened. My husband worked 32 yrs at GM (General Motors) and mostly all of that time he spent working the afternoon shift which means that even though he is retired, he can't go to bed before 1-2-3 in the morning. So, he does sleep in, like he has for years. Does he like being woke up? Heck no! Doesn't make him grouchy, lol just sleeps different hours then most. When our kids and Grandkids visit, it is understood, Dad sleeps in and everyone has to be quiet in the morning.....

 

[fran]

Hmmm......so DS lawyered up but then returned to Mi and called the news station and gave a statement,...................interesting.

Guess he's preparing to take back his children.

So, he didn't work the day VS disappeared but he has two witnesses that he was in Va? .........................interesting.

Seems the longer VS is gone, the more it appears there is foul play. Oh, I know she has a DV report against her and he doesn''t but then like others have said, SHE is the one missing.

It's really not unusual for an abused survivor to take off with nothing but the clothes on their back. You put in the alleged abuse of one of the kids, welllll......she wanted to get away from him ASAP. For anyone thinking she went to Mi to get a better div deal, ...............ehhhh............she was FROM Mi and DS had her isolated in VA. She needed to get where she had 'moral' support. I don't think that's so difficult to figure out.

Another sad case.

JMHO
fran

PS.....Oh, I wonder if DS has shown LE the items on his Walmart receipt? You know, gloves, cap, shovel???????

 

[pufnstuf]

I am thinking this is the Mom who saw her. Does anyone remember when the Mom left for work?



8:30 is when I think the Father got up and she was gone. jmo


http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2010/04/michigan_state_police_remain_h.html

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/sw_mich/Missing-mom-wouldnt-leave-on-her-own

Plus the neighbor saw the man crouched by the Dodge Ram at "about 7AM" and five minutes later, he was gone.

ETA: Your quotes didn't carry forward...

Her mother left at 6AM. Venus had coffee with her before she left.

 

[panthera]

Plus the neighbor saw the man crouched by the Dodge Ram at "about 7AM" and five minutes later, he was gone.

ETA: Your quotes didn't carry forward...

Her mother left at 6AM. Venus had coffee with her before she left.

I thought the mother left at 6:00am also, so is that article incorrectly worded or did someone else see Venus outside at 7:00am? I've never understood where the "7:10am-8:30am" timeline came from unless she was known to be alive at 7:10am and dad didn't awaken until 8:30am? MOO

 

[pufnstuf]

I thought the mother left at 6:00am also, so is that article incorrectly worded or did someone else see Venus outside at 7:00am? I've never understood where the "7:10am-8:30am" timeline came from unless she was known to be alive at 7:10am and dad didn't awaken until 8:30am? MOO

If someone saw Venus outside at 7AM, they just missed seeing the abduction, in my opinion.

I believe that she was abducted at 7-7:15...somewhere in there...based on the neighbor seeing the truck and then the truck gone the next time she looked.

 

[pufnstuf]

I thought the mother left at 6:00am also, so is that article incorrectly worded or did someone else see Venus outside at 7:00am? I've never understood where the "7:10am-8:30am" timeline came from unless she was known to be alive at 7:10am and dad didn't awaken until 8:30am? MOO

I've thought about that, too. Maybe she sent a text a 7:10. Or maybe Therese called home and told her not to forget to put the ____ in the mail. Maybe someone was outside next door until 7:10 and didn't see her out.

Dunno. Hope all of this is explained eventually.

 

[PickieChickie]

I have to comment on this post ( Sorry, not trying to be snarky) But............About the father not wanting to be awakened. My husband worked 32 yrs at GM (General Motors) and mostly all of that time he spent working the afternoon shift which means that even though he is retired, he can't go to bed before 1-2-3 in the morning. So, he does sleep in, like he has for years. Does he like being woke up? Heck no! Doesn't make him grouchy, lol just sleeps different hours then most. When our kids and Grandkids visit, it is understood, Dad sleeps in and everyone has to be quiet in the morning.....

So you are concurring that it would have been a well established rule in the house that Venus was to keep the girls quiet so father could sleep in.

Venus's father made it clear he awakened to the noisy children, was really annoyed and wondered why they were being so loud and got up to check which is when he learned Venus had gone outside.

Grandchildren visiting a grandpa who sleeps in late is a bit different than grandchildren who are living with Grandpa for an extended amount of time as the excitement of the initial visit is over and it's back to the normal routine.