Found Deceased MI - Venus Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - # 5 *D. Stewart guilty*

[Amster]

Forgive me if this has already been answered. Did Venus ever report the alleged sexual abuse of her children? Did she report it to LE, did she ever take her children to a pediatrician for an exam? Into counseling with a professional who the children disclosed to? I ask because the way this is written, is very similiar to other claims I have read online by mothers claiming sexual molestation and those claims have been proven by LE as being unfounded - suspect cleared. I'm just not buying it based on how it's written.

JMO

IIRC, her claims were investigated and dropped for lack of evidence.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Forgive me if this has already been answered. Did Venus ever report the alleged sexual abuse of her children? Did she report it to LE, did she ever take her children to a pediatrician for an exam? Into counseling with a professional who the children disclosed to? I ask because the way this is written, is very similiar to other claims I have read online by mothers claiming sexual molestation and those claims have been proven by LE as being unfounded - suspect cleared. I'm just not buying it based on how it's written.

JMO

From what I understand, she found out about it later, after the move to VA.
She said the child told her it happened at the old house in MI.
I think she did report it, but it had been a while and there was not enough evidence for charges.
From the letter that was written, it seems she is claiming DS requested that his child touch him, not that he did anything that would have caused something to show up at an exam.

This is all from my mind as I remember it.
Anybody, please correct me if I'm wrong. It happens a lot. lol

 

[Salem]

The lastest - which is just a recap of everything we already know: http://www.southbendtribune.com/article/20100518/News01/5180362/-1/googleNews

Salem

 

[thinkaboutthis]

Forgive me if this has already been answered. Did Venus ever report the alleged sexual abuse of her children? Did she report it to LE, did she ever take her children to a pediatrician for an exam? Into counseling with a professional who the children disclosed to? I ask because the way this is written, is very similiar to other claims I have read online by mothers claiming sexual molestation and those claims have been proven by LE as being unfounded - suspect cleared. I'm just not buying it based on how it's written.

JMO

http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2010/04/missing_st_joseph_county_woman_1.html

Before moving to Virginia in 2009, court documents show that Venus Stewart filed a second petition for a personal-protection order against her husband in March 2009, alleging that he threatened her and made a false criminal accusation against her father.

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/sw_mich/Dad-finds-handwritten-letter-from-Venus

The Schoolcraft Police Department investigated the claims made in the notes. Allegedly, Douglas had one of his daughters touch him inappropriately. A younger sibling was home at the time of the alleged incident, but in a different room.

The Kalamazoo County prosecutor's office told 24 Hour News 8 no charges were filed against Douglas because there was "insufficient evidence."


http://www.truecrimereport.com/2010/05/venus_rose_stewart_mom_missing.php

After Venus disappeared, her dad found her notes detailing her daughter's charges of molestation against Douglas Stewart. The notes say that, back in February, one of the daughters claimed that Douglas had her touch him while a younger child was in another room.

Virginia police didn't charge him over the incident, saying there was insufficient evidence.

It looks like she may have had 2 different jurisdictions try to get DS on this and they both told her the same thing...unless the last link is a typo.

 

[Cubby]

IIRC, her claims were investigated and dropped for lack of evidence.

Thanks. That is what I thought...... Unfortunately, and I mean no disrespect to Venus as she is the victim here, but so often allegations of sexual abuse are used as a weapon in bitter custody battles. It makes me wonder if perhaps that was part of what made Doug snap. Granted, it is not an excuse or reason to excuse is behavior as I have seen other fathers falsely accused and able to maintain their composure and fight the allegations - and then end up with full custody-. And sometimes the mothers continue on and on with the false allegations and end up having their parental rights revoked depending on how long the nonsense goes on. In those cases it is usually several years.... but that is getting OT so I will end here.

I have some articles saved regarding such. If anyone wishes copies please send me a pm and I will send you the link. This thread is not the place for them.

 

[Salem]

Would some one please help me find a picture of DS?

Also, has the sketch been compared to any known ROS's in the area?

Could this case be somewhat similar to Chealsea King's case?

TIA,

Salem

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I know there are false claims of child abuse in a lot in divorces. But, a lot of the time, a child is assaulted and since there is not enough evidence, the charges are dropped. It's a child's word against an adults. And we know how that turns out.

We will never know in this case if those claims were true or not.

 

[mommame]

Thanks. That is what I thought...... Unfortunately, and I mean no disrespect to Venus as she is the victim here, but so often allegations of sexual abuse are used as a weapon in bitter custody battles. It makes me wonder if perhaps that was part of what made Doug snap. Granted, it is not an excuse or reason to excuse is behavior as I have seen other fathers falsely accused and able to maintain their composure and fight the allegations - and then end up with full custody-. And sometimes the mothers continue on and on with the false allegations and end up having their parental rights revoked depending on how long the nonsense goes on. In those cases it is usually several years.... but that is getting OT so I will end here.

I have some articles saved regarding such. If anyone wishes copies please send me a pm and I will send you the link. This thread is not the place for them.

Certainly don't mean to be snarky here BUT sometimes the allegations ARE true and just can not be proven. I am going to give HER the benefit of the doubt here she IS the one missing...............:truce:

 

[thinkaboutthis]

Certainly don't mean to be snarky here BUT sometimes the allegations ARE true and just can not be proven. I am going to give HER the benefit of the doubt here she IS the one missing...............:truce:

The fact that she is missing lends no credibility to her sexual abuse allegations, sorry. Whether or not they are true or false does not change, regardless of where she is, or what has happened to her. I think Cubby is saying, it would be a shame "IF" she had made a false accusation against DS and it was that allegation that was enough to send him over the edge and actually cause him to harm her.

 

[Meagain]

So he filed divorce against HER 3 times? Do I have this right? Hmmm.....

 

[Cubby]

I know there are false claims of child abuse in a lot in divorces. But, a lot of the time, a child is assaulted and since there is not enough evidence, the charges are dropped. It's a child's word against an adults. And we know how that turns out.

We will never know in this case if those claims were true or not.

While we won't, I'm not going to make the assumption the allegations were true and dropped for lack of evidence. If too much time goes by before a parent reports that raises my hinky meter. What parent wouldn't immediately go to the police and wait months?

Also, physical evidence is not always necessary if the child fully discloses to a child psychologist.... I realize that is not fool proof, but a child able to describe an event to a parent and is comfortable enough to do so, should also be able to do so to a therapist. I'm also always leary when a child only discloses to one parent. There would be other behavior witnessed at preschool, school, by friends parents etc.... because a child would not know age appropriate sexual boundaries and likely have too much knowledge based on their age.

I don't want this to get OT into a debate about sexual allegations in a custody dispute. I am only sharing why I believe what I do based on being a single parent for almost 8.5 years myself and participating in SP forums where both genders participated.

 

[PickieChickie]

Would some one please help me find a picture of DS?

 

[believe09]

The multiple divorce filings...I have seen this in the past in non headline cases where a spouse is threatening the other-example: if you do not do xyz, I will divorce you and take the children away from you. (Step one, pay the filing fee to file.) See, I filed, I am telling you I am going to do it this time......

I have also seen multiple divorce filings in mutually addicted relationships as someone already mentioned. One spouse or both file repeatedly to try and break the bond, but the never make it to the end.

 

[Cubby]

The fact that she is missing lends no credibility to her sexual abuse allegations, sorry. Whether or not they are true or false does not change, regardless of where she is, or what has happened to her. I think Cubby is saying, it would be a shame "IF" she had made a false accusation against DS and it was that allegation that was enough to send him over the edge and actually cause him to harm her.

Exactly what I meant. thanks for expressing that better than I did.

 

[BeanE]

Dear Wetman,

Sorry to inconvenience your fully clothed evening swimming and cigarette bumming time, we hope you know where you are because you had to ask when you came out of the woods at Adams Lake a few weeks back, but we can't seem to find you. We know that you are most likely just a local boy with nothing to do with the case, but we'd like to chat with you. We only want to question you regarding a possible abduction/murder case we have open, and you are not a suspect or person of interest...but FYI because we don't believe you have any involvement, we went ahead and did exhaustive searches at Adams Lake on 3 seperate occasions including once with side-scanning sonar and we plan to go back again when the water levels come down.

Again, all of that searching we did, is NOT because we have any reason to suspect you, or your behavior as remotely suspicious. We just want to catch up.

Thanks in advance for your consideration. We appreciate your creepy patronage of our private properties here in Michigan.

Yours Truly,

MSP

:floorlaugh:

Post of the day

 

[spamelope]

When did they last live in Schoolcraft? I think it's a big difference if it was Jan. '09 as opposed to Dec. '09. Children that age have notoriously poor memories for things that happened long ago.

 

[believe09]

I think allegations of child sexual abuse are always troublesome because it reveals something very nasty about at least one or both of the adults.

As for this being the straw that might have broken DS' back? Although there was a temporary RO and custody determination in VS' favor, the law would have been on his side in terms of the allegations if one or more jurisdictions had found insufficient proof. I would think a GAL would have been appointed for the children (and still maybe) to try and sort out what was going on between VS and DS...and of course the children. So I dont know that it might cause him to do something so incredibly stupid as to grab his wife...

For DS to be the guilty party here for me, he would have to fall in line with the kind of spouse I am familiar with who is pathologically controlling. Her attempt to run away and start a new life without him would be sufficient to make him throw common sense to the wind and destroy her in some shape or form....in this case to take her and possibly harm her.

I am not saying he did it-but there is a lot that points to him for whatever reason.

What makes little to no sense is VS kidnapping herself. If she was going to walk away from her children, there were many other ways to do it. Unless of course you believe that she was the pathologically controlling spouse. She does not ring that way for me....there is a tremendous amount of organization and planning...hauling off and bloodying his nose makes me think that she does not have the same level of control. Again, JMO.

 

[spamelope]

:floorlaugh:

Post of the day

Could be post of the year! But I'm not going to argue with a mod. LOL

I'm still lmao.

 

[believe09]

Spam, I will not quote your post so you can delete it...but to your issues yes it seems like a dig unless there was a congenital issue with DS....which would be pretty easy to determine. God Help me, but I had a friend whose husband had an issue....it did not hinder them from having children you understand. But in the grand scheme of things, he probably had an incredible amount of difficulty in HS if he had to shower with the other fellows if you catch my drift.

 

[blackdog]

I'm going to town for paint. I know many of the officials in the case. If I run into the judge or the prosecuting attorney, what would everyone like me to ask them?