Found Deceased MI - Venus Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - # 5 *D. Stewart guilty*

[BeanE]

It is a hypothesis.

To answer your question, no

Thanks. I didn't want to miss anything

 

[pufnstuf]

I see, what about the car?

Floorboard, back driver's side.

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - MI MI - Venus Rose Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - ABDUCTED - #3

Above is a link to a transcript of the warrants.

 

[blackdog]

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I drove passed the house on Walnut street tonight: it's not very big, it's almost on the railroad tracks, and it's in foreclosure. Maybe he charged it on his visa.

 

[pufnstuf]

And something must have set him off, if he did this. Ask yourself this, what reason might someone have for doing that? Would they just have a random psychotic break? The general sort of thing going on was what their life had been like for the last three years or so, the last week wasn't any different, so why would someone hypothetically suddenly drive a quarter of the way across the country and back again? Just because now was the time? I don't think so, there would have to be something to prompt it, and the only thing we know about that could be consistent with that would be the phone calls.

Respectfully snipped.

Never before had Venus received custody of the children. Within the week before she went missing, Doug received notice that she had won temporary custody of the children.

I imagine that that was bitter pill for him to swallow.

 

[PickieChickie]

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Never before had Venus received custody of the children. Within the week before she went missing, Doug received notice that she had won temporary custody of the children.

I imagine that that was bitter pill for him to swallow.

I've asked this twice and have never received an answer. Temporary custody is just that: temporary.

When did the temporary custody expire?

 

[pufnstuf]

I've asked this twice and have never received an answer. Temporary custody is just that: temporary.

When did the temporary custody expire?

Let me look at code and see...brb.

 

[BeanE]

I drove passed the house on Walnut street tonight: it's not very big, it's almost on the railroad tracks, and it's in foreclosure. Maybe he charged it on his visa.

:floorlaugh: Too too funny.

 

[BeanE]

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Never before had Venus received custody of the children. Within the week before she went missing, Doug received notice that she had won temporary custody of the children.

I imagine that that was bitter pill for him to swallow.

Bingo

 

[pufnstuf]

All I'm finding is that the temporary custody order stays in effect until the permanent order is issued.

And that, most of the time, the person who has temporary custody goes on to win permanent custody.

This is really kinda confusing because Venus was in Michigan with the kids, and Doug had filed for divorce in Virginia.

According to everything I've read (and I think cubby posted it, also), Venus couldn't file for divorce in Michigan until she had been back there six months. Then there would be another 180-day "cooling off" period before the divorce would be finalized. So my guess is that the temp custody order would be in effect until the divorce was finalized.

This is where we need two lawyers in this thread--one from MI and one from VA. ha.

 

[cluciano63]

Do I remember reading they found a wrapper from a throw away cell phone in the truck?​

I think it was a cellophane wrapper...

 

[Kimberlyd125]

No, Pickie...

I think there was a mistake in reading the warrant. It said "cellophane," and it looked like "cell phone," so I think someone earlier made that mistake, which was perfectly understandable. Cop writing is almost as bad as doctor writing!

Yep, that would be me. :blushing:
I was reading, typing, posting...looked like cellphone wrapper to my eyes at the time. But, someone pointed out that it was cellophane like that is around a pack of smokes.

Sorry y'all.

That being said, I would not doubt he had a throw away/pay as you go kinda phone on him for the trip, if indeed he is the one who took her.

JMO

 

[thinkaboutthis]

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Never before had Venus received custody of the children. Within the week before she went missing, Doug received notice that she had won temporary custody of the children.

I imagine that that was bitter pill for him to swallow.

Someone files, the other party is served papers. Discoveries are gathered. A hearing is set to temporarily set up custody, child support and visitation. The initial temporary orders stay in place until until the divorce is finalized with the judgement of divorce which lays out how things will be handled permanently. That she got temp custody isn't abnormal when filing in Michigan and the other party is clearly living halfway accross the country. Neither is him being allowed to call his kids every day.

I am sure that his attorney would have explained to him that what was set up was not indicative of how the final judgement of divorce would be set up with regards to custody and visitation and that it was normal and customary in that regard. Now, depending on his income...the child support thing could have been the crusher.

If DS was in Michigan for that hearing approx 1 week before VS disappeared. That wouldn't give him very much time to get back to VA afterwards and secure his alibi witnesses and hit men before this all began to unfold the following weekend.

 

[pufnstuf]

Yep, that would be me. :blushing:
I was reading, typing, posting...looked like cellphone wrapper to my eyes at the time. But, someone pointed out that it was cellophane like that is around a pack of smokes.

Sorry y'all.

That being said, I would not doubt he had a throw away/pay as you go kinda phone on him for the trip, if indeed he is the one who took her.

JMO

Like I said, cop writing--hard to read.

 

[pufnstuf]

Someone files, the other party is served papers. Discoveries are gathered. A hearing is set to temporarily set up custody, child support and visitation. The initial temporary orders stay in place until until the divorce is finalized with the judgement of divorce which lays out how things will be handled permanently. That she got temp custody isn't abnormal when filing in Michigan and the other party is clearly living halfway accross the country. Neither is him being allowed to call his kids every day.

I am sure that his attorney would have explained to him that what was set up was not indicative of how the final judgement of divorce would be set up with regards to custody and visitation and that it was normal and customary in that regard. Now, depending on his income...the child support thing could have been the crusher.

If DS was in Michigan for that hearing approx 1 week before VS disappeared. That wouldn't give him very much time to get back to VA afterwards and secure his alibi witnesses and hit men before this all began to unfold the following weekend.

I agree with what you're saying. Only thing is I don't think that he hired anyone...I think he either did it himself or with the help of someone related to him.

About the temporary order, the main thing to me is that, if he's a controlling person, losing custody of the children--even temporarily--is a huge blow to his ego. His anger wouldn't be as much about not seeing the children as about Venus actually winning in court. That's just my opinion...but I do see what you're saying and agree with what you're saying.

Just thinking out loud with this... I wonder why he was only granted phone visitation. Usually, supervised visitation would be ordered. Makes me wonder if he even showed up at court to fight for custody. Phone visitation is hardly any visitation at all, and I'd guess very rare and only for extraordinary cases--but I really don't know much about it.

 

[Natal]

Thanks. I didn't want to miss anything

Well, I thought it was pretty clear that it was a hypothesis so I was confused why you would want a link.

 

[Natal]

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Never before had Venus received custody of the children. Within the week before she went missing, Doug received notice that she had won temporary custody of the children.

I imagine that that was bitter pill for him to swallow.

But that is pretty standard though, I'm sure his attorney would have explained it to him, it would have come as no surprise. Sorry, I don't buy that as the motivation.

 

[pufnstuf]

But that is pretty standard though, I'm sure his attorney would have explained it to him, it would have come as no surprise. Sorry, I don't buy that as the motivation.

It's really not that standard for one person to have temporary custody and the other only be allowed telephonic visitation. That's not standard at all.

 

[Natal]

Just thinking out loud with this... I wonder why he was only granted phone visitation. Usually, supervised visitation would be ordered. Makes me wonder if he even showed up at court to fight for custody. Phone visitation is hardly any visitation at all, and I'd guess very rare and only for extraordinary cases--but I really don't know much about it.

Well, it was temporary and he didn't live in state, so that would have been a practical way of handling it for the time being I guess. Supervised visitation isnt worth much if you can only be there once a blue moon.

The possibility that he didnt show up is an interesting one, one wonders if he perhaps had somehow been blindsided by all of this, especially if he didnt have representation. That would explain going off the deepend.

 

[Natal]

It's really not that standard for one person to have temporary custody and the other only be allowed telephonic visitation. That's not standard at all.

It is pretty standard for the wife the recieve custody is what I meant. Unless she is an unfit mother for some reason, and there isn't any evidence for that in this case.

 

[RJA00]

It's really not that standard for one person to have temporary custody and the other only be allowed telephonic visitation. That's not standard at all.

I don't know if it different between husband and wife

but i do know someone that has custody of her great grandchildren
the papers are drawn up like reg custody papers

the papers state she has temporary custody and the mother has 1 hr a week visits
its states either by phone or visit