Found Deceased MI - Venus Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - # 5 *D. Stewart guilty*

[PickieChickie]

BlackDog...wanna go on a document run for us?

I actually meant to inquire if there was anyone participating in this thread who lives near the Virginia courthouse where Venus filed for the Protective Order and Doug filed for a Dissolution of Marriage.

I don't know how much the copying fee per page is but if someone has the financial means and time to have copies made of the documents and can scan them to make them available, they can be uploaded to a Photo Bucket account then embedded here for discussion.

I would be willing to start a new thread and post all the images of the documents in sequence then open the thread for discussion and comments when I'm finished, if someone wants to obtain these documents then e-mail the scans to me.

I'd also be willing to upload them all to a Photo Bucket account. Just let me know.

 

[BeanE]

IMO all this about divorce filings, restraining orders, abuse allegations, parent statements, wet-man etc... is overwhelming the simple facts of this case.

JMO - This relationship was volatile to the point of all those things stated above. Neither VS or DS were angels during this relationship, IMO. I think we all agree their kids were paying a hefty price for that.

Now, when I say the simple facts of THIS case, I am referring to this…
-Venus takes her kids to 4 states away and has temp custody of them.
-Venus says she is scared DS will kill her.
-Venus makes out a will.
-Venus comes up missing, most likely abducted (says MSP)
-DS is named POI really early on in the case.
-DS has receipt for shovel, cap, gloves, and tarp in his truck (from a store that would have been on the way from VA to MI).
-DS does not cooperate with MSP and gets an attorney.

I understand stranger things have happened, but the implications that VS just walked away after framing DS for her abduction/possible murder makes no sense to me at all.

In a lot of posts, it seems some are trying so hard to defend DS and make VS look bad by her actions previous to this crime. IMO The fact VS is missing and DS is a POI means a lot.
What she did 2 years ago has no bearing on this case IMO.


VS is the victim until MSP says otherwise.

Excellent post, Kim. If I may, I would add:

- Judge grants Venus a protective order against DS

and

- DS remains today the one and only Person of Interest per MSP

 

[thinkaboutthis]

IMO all this about divorce filings, restraining orders, abuse allegations, parent statements, wet-man etc... is overwhelming the simple facts of this case.

JMO - This relationship was volatile to the point of all those things stated above. Neither VS or DS were angels during this relationship, IMO. I think we all agree their kids were paying a hefty price for that.

Now, when I say the simple facts of THIS case, I am referring to this…
-Venus takes her kids to 4 states away and has temp custody of them.
-Venus says she is scared DS will kill her.
-Venus makes out a will.
-Venus comes up missing, most likely abducted (says MSP)
-DS is named POI really early on in the case.
-DS has receipt for shovel, cap, gloves, and tarp in his truck (from a store that would have been on the way from VA to MI).
-DS does not cooperate with MSP and gets an attorney.

I understand stranger things have happened, but the implications that VS just walked away after framing DS for her abduction/possible murder makes no sense to me at all.

In a lot of posts, it seems some are trying so hard to defend DS and make VS look bad by her actions previous to this crime. IMO The fact VS is missing and DS is a POI means a lot.
What she did 2 years ago has no bearing on this case IMO.


VS is the victim until MSP says otherwise.

Actually, unfortunately, I don't think there are any simple facts in this case. If you are of the opinion that we should only focus on THIS case, that would start from the time she was allegedly abducted and what has happened since then, because if you go back in the history beyond that then her history is every bit as relevant as his.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Actually, unfortunately, I don't think there are any simple facts in this case. If you are of the opinion that we should only focus on THIS case, that would start from the time she was allegedly abducted and what has happened since then, because if you go back in the history beyond that then her history is every bit as relevant as his.

Pulling up dirt on a victim is not normally how things are done here at WS. ETA: Now, saying that, pulling up dirt on a POI is something we do here.
JMO

I said in my post, the realationship was a volatile one. I said neither was an angel in the relationship. I said the children were the ones paying a hefty price for their actions. We don't know all the facts and we can not learn them by pulling court documents. Anybody can file any court document they want to. It's a he said/she said kinda thing.

All the court documents and who did what to who means nothing to me. If she smacked him 5 or 9 times in the nose 2 years ago means nothing to me in THIS case.

You can't change the fact she had custody of the kids, she was in MI, she is missing. He's the ONLY POI at this point. To me, those are pretty simple facts.

She is the victim. That's a pretty simple fact to me.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Also, can I ask, how does the fact VS struck DS in 2008, have anything to do with her missing?
If DS was missing, that fact would be something to look at.

To me, bringing up that adds nothing to THIS case, he's not missing.

 

[cluciano63]

I think all of the posters writing about the divorce actions and who did what and when are frustrated by lack of any new information in this case and there is nothing much else to write about until LE releases more info or makes an arrest...

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I think all of the posters writing about the divorce actions and who did what and when are frustrated by lack of any new information in this case and there is nothing much else to write about until LE releases more info or makes an arrest...

I certainly understand the frustration of waiting for new info on a case. But, if we are a victim friendly forum, there should be a line that is not crossed. IMO

To me, IMO/JMO/MOO, the line should be no digging up dirt on the victim who is still missing.

 

[PickieChickie]

Also, can I ask, how does the fact VS struck DS in 2008, have anything to do with her missing?
If DS was missing, that fact would be something to look at.

To me, bringing up that adds nothing to THIS case, he's not missing.

Do we know for a fact Venus struck Doug? Did she admit it or was she bullied into pleading no contest?

For all we know he punched himself in the nose then had her arrested for domestic violence just to be a ****

Whether or not Venus hit Doug in the nose doesn't matter. Nothing Venus has done justifies what has happened to her.

I find it strange that both Doug and Venus filed court documents in which they both claimed they were afraid their spouse was going to kill them.

It seems there may have been some "tit for tat" going on.

Since Venus is the one who appears to have been murdered, it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume Doug's claims he was afraid Venus was going to kill him were lies and yet another way he manipulated the relationship to gain more control over Venus. It seems he wanted her to feel helpless, stupid, dependent, worthless, etc.

"I'll file documents and claim I am afraid you are trying to kill me. Who do you think the judge will believe? You or me? I am the one who served our country. I am more important than you. Go ahead and just try to get the kids away from me. I'll make you look like the fool. The judge will believe me. I'll have him convinced you are crazy."

 

[Natal]

For the hearing, he would have received notice - there's no blindsiding about it. And of course, it would have been entirely his choice whether or not to retain representation. So, with the notice that's required, and the right we all have to representation, the logistics of the hearing shouldn't have been an issue.

Things don't allways work out the way they are supposed to though. It could be that happened in this case, you could see how something like that might enrage a person.

 

[Natal]

I certainly understand the frustration of waiting for new info on a case. But, if we are a victim friendly forum, there should be a line that is not crossed. IMO

To me, IMO/JMO/MOO, the line should be no digging up dirt on the victim who is still missing.

I don't think it is possible to look only at the domestic history of DS and not at VS since both are inter-related. You have to either look at both or neither.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I don't think it is possible to look only at the domestic history of DS and not at VS since both are inter-related. You have to either look at both or neither.

Ok, they have both been looked at.

How is anything she did prior to her abduction relavent to her abduction?
Has there been some info found where she said she was gonna fake an abduction, or leave her kids, or make DS pay by framing him, or have we seen info that she has a new boyfriend and wants to start a new life???
Anything??? Anything in her past that could point towards her being gone?

Not that I have seen, but even if you don't look at DSs past, look at the present.

She is missing, he's the POI, evidence has been found in his vehicles pointing to him...That's my point.

All the court filings and banter back and forth have nothing to do with the fact she is missing.

Why do we need to dig up her past? Why do we need to talk about her wrong doings over and over again? She is the victim.

That's the point I'm trying to make.

Maybe if we list all her wrong doings from the time she met him, that may help us find her:waitasec:. I don't think that's the case.

JMO

 

[spamelope]

OT But a badly decomposed body was found in Greeley this morning not far from where Kayleah Wilson disappeared from.

 

[LIONKING21]

Though I would love to help secure some of these documents from the courthouse, I do not feel morally comfortable doing so because of my close relationship with a few of the family members. I am sure you all understand. Thanks

 

[BeanE]

I think all of the posters writing about the divorce actions and who did what and when are frustrated by lack of any new information in this case and there is nothing much else to write about until LE releases more info or makes an arrest...

Things to do in Cases When There's No News
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[BeanE]

Things don't allways work out the way they are supposed to though. It could be that happened in this case, you could see how something like that might enrage a person.

Yes, with some people, it takes very little, or even nothing at all, for them to be off in a rage. In Gabe Johnson's case, his mother is like that. Horribly violent rages over extremely little things, or over nothing at all.

So yes, you just really never know what it is that might set someone off.

 

[PickieChickie]

Ok, they have both been looked at.

How is anything she did prior to her abduction relavent to her abduction?
Has there been some info found where she said she was gonna fake an abduction, or leave her kids, or make DS pay by framing him, or have we seen info that she has a new boyfriend and wants to start a new life???
Anything??? Anything in her past that could point towards her being gone?

Not that I have seen, but even if you don't look at DSs past, look at the present.

She is missing, he's the POI, evidence has been found in his vehicles pointing to him...That's my point.

All the court filings and banter back and forth have nothing to do with the fact she is missing.

Why do we need to dig up her past? Why do we need to talk about her wrong doings over and over again? She is the victim.

That's the point I'm trying to make.

Maybe if we list all her wrong doings from the time she met him, that may help us find her:waitasec:. I don't think that's the case.

JMO

Our discussing this case isn't going to help find Venus. We are simply exploring the relationship between Venus and Doug and the one way to better understand what lead up to Venus's disappearance would be to view the court documents that were filed by both parties.

If someone does make them available, the claims made in said documents by both parties will answer many of the questions that have been put forward on this thread.

I don't think anyone is trying to dig up dirt on Venus. At least that is not my reason for wanting to see the documents.

I want to read the declarations! I want to know when the Protective Order expires as well as what the court ordered as far as child visitation is concerned.

 

[trigger]

OT But a badly decomposed body was found in Greeley this morning not far from where Kayleah Wilson disappeared from.

OMG....Thanx spam

 

[Calliope]

Ok, they have both been looked at.

How is anything she did prior to her abduction relavent to her abduction?
Has there been some info found where she said she was gonna fake an abduction, or leave her kids, or make DS pay by framing him, or have we seen info that she has a new boyfriend and wants to start a new life???
Anything??? Anything in her past that could point towards her being gone?

Not that I have seen, but even if you don't look at DSs past, look at the present.

She is missing, he's the POI, evidence has been found in his vehicles pointing to him...That's my point.

All the court filings and banter back and forth have nothing to do with the fact she is missing.

Why do we need to dig up her past? Why do we need to talk about her wrong doings over and over again? She is the victim.

That's the point I'm trying to make.

Maybe if we list all her wrong doings from the time she met him, that may help us find her:waitasec:. I don't think that's the case.

JMO

BBM

Anything that happens prior to a crime can be relevant.

 

[pufnstuf]

Yes, with some people, it takes very little, or even nothing at all, for them to be off in a rage. In Gabe Johnson's case, his mother is like that. Horribly violent rages over extremely little things, or over nothing at all.

So yes, you just really never know what it is that might set someone off.

I have started three replies to the stuff going on in this thread, and I've deleted them all because I don't want to run afoul of WS's policies.

This is not a court of law where the case is to be tried. This is a forum that attempts to help crime victims--and has made a very real difference in some recent cases. If people don't want to abide by the policies here, there are plenty of forums out there where people can post whatever they want.

I don't want this thread to end up being shut down like the Mackenzie Cowell thread was. In that thread, people posted that she was probably a drug dealer, was probably a slutty girl, probably was in a gang, and her mother probably was involved in her murder. All untrue.

The worst part of it was that recently LE had to release a statement to counter the accusations made at WEBSLEUTHS and this forum's owner had to take the time to write a letter to the newspaper explaining why the Mackenzie thread was closed.

Let's not do that in this thread. We are victim-friendly. Anyone who doesn't like that can find somewhere else to post.

 

[pufnstuf]

BBM

Anything that happens prior to a crime can be relevant.

That's like saying a rape victim's sexual history should be investigated if she files rape charges. I disagree, vehemently.