Found Deceased MI - Venus Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - # 5 *D. Stewart guilty*

[cluciano63]

I think a lot of this back and forth on this couple's marital history will either be clarified or deemed irrelevant, depending upon the turns this case takes. I have stayed out of the discussions as I have never been through a divorce or been in an abusive relationship and it seems many posters here have experience in one or both of those situations. Every broken marriage is different, IMO, and the reasons leading to Venus' disappearance might well be linked to hers, if DS is the culprit. I am waiting to be convinced of that fact and the longer LE takes to connect him to the crime, the more benefit of the doubt I am giving him. That said, I really do not see how having court documents to review as to when he/she accused who, etc....is going to help anything at all. JMO

 

[BeanE]

O/T - Phuong Le's funeral service is being streamed live for anyone who wants to watch, maybe in another window:
http://www.news10.net/news/liveonline/default-on.aspx?menuid=181

 

[Amster]

I have started three replies to the stuff going on in this thread, and I've deleted them all because I don't want to run afoul of WS's policies.

This is not a court of law where the case is to be tried. This is a forum that attempts to help crime victims--and has made a very real difference in some recent cases. If people don't want to abide by the policies here, there are plenty of forums out there where people can post whatever they want.

I don't want this thread to end up being shut down like the Mackenzie Cowell thread was. In that thread, people posted that she was probably a drug dealer, was probably a slutty girl, probably was in a gang, and her mother probably was involved in her murder. All untrue.

The worst part of it was that recently LE had to release a statement to counter the accusations made at WEBSLEUTHS and this forum's owner had to take the time to write a letter to the newspaper explaining why the Mackenzie thread was closed.

Let's not do that in this thread. We are victim-friendly. Anyone who doesn't like that can find somewhere else to post.

Since we don't know what happened to Venus....and, there has been no arrest....what are we supposed to "sleuth"? Only the POI? It's ok to make up stuff that he has or hasn't done? Just because some think he's an abuser and fits some "profile"? Seems that has been gone over and over and over. I guess I'll sign off until there is some news.

 

[Amster]

O/T - Phuong Le's funeral service is being streamed live for anyone who wants to watch, maybe in another window:
http://www.news10.net/news/liveonline/default-on.aspx?menuid=181

Thanks BeanE.....another sad, sad case.

 

[Marinemom]

I have thought it was very likely that Doug somehow contacted Venus at the last minute to let her know he was outside with the truck, that he'd driven it all the way to Michigan as a surprise for her so she'd have transportation of her own or that he'd brought some of her belongings and some money for her.

It just seems to be too much of a coincidence that the guy crouching behind the truck, if that was indeed Doug or whomever abducted Venus, was so lucky that Venus just happened to come out of the house at the right time.

However, if Venus was NOT allowed to smoke in the house and Doug knew that, he knew she'd be coming out every 15 minutes or so to have a smoke. But, why take her in broad daylight? That's what is so strange to me.

That part perplexes me as well. I know that it is very strange for whoever it was to 'grab her during the daylight in her own yard'. It could have very easily been seen or heard by her father or daughters or a neighbor. It's very bold.

I still keep thinking that something else was planned......like that he was gonna steal the kids or something. BUT, the reasoning about her having been called to meet up outside does make sense to me, and sounds like it could be a possibility.

I think it's pretty weird actually that the person who saw someone crouching behind a strange truck across the road to NOT keep watching! If that had been me - I would have watched continuously until they left, just to see what that person was up to, and why they were crouching and what they were doing over there??? Maybe because I'm nosy......but I would have just been way to curious as to why someone would be acting in that strange way, and why they were parked in that field and hanging around and seem to be sort of hiding?

I wish we knew how she got back to Michigan when she left him. If her parents went there to get her and the kids, or what? That should be no big secret. "Maybe" that is his explanation as to why BOTH vehicles were spotted in MI. Because he brought one to her and a friend followed with the other to take him back home to VA??


There are still very many unanswered questions to us in this case, but I'm VERY sure that LE has most of these answers, so they are on a trustworthy path to finding out what exactly happened. Soooo, come on guys let us in on the secrets - ok???

 

[RubyRed]

That part perplexes me as well. I know that it is very strange for whoever it was to 'grab her during the daylight in her own yard'. It could have very easily been seen or heard by her father or daughters or a neighbor. It's very bold.

I still keep thinking that something else was planned......like that he was gonna steal the kids or something. BUT, the reasoning about her having been called to meet up outside does make sense to me, and sounds like it could be a possibility.

I think it's pretty weird actually that the person who saw someone crouching behind a strange truck across the road to NOT keep watching! If that had been me - I would have watched continuously until they left, just to see what that person was up to, and why they were crouching and what they were doing over there??? Maybe because I'm nosy......but I would have just been way to curious as to why someone would be acting in that strange way, and why they were parked in that field and hanging around and seem to be sort of hiding?

I wish we knew how she got back to Michigan when she left him. If her parents went there to get her and the kids, or what? That should be no big secret. "Maybe" that is his explanation as to why BOTH vehicles were spotted in MI. Because he brought one to her and a friend followed with the other to take him back home to VA??


There are still very many unanswered questions to us in this case, but I'm VERY sure that LE has most of these answers, so they are on a trustworthy path to finding out what exactly happened. Soooo, come on guys let us in on the secrets - ok???

bbm

I would have been watching too.

 

[Marinemom]

I was thinking she may have received a call at 7:10 AM (the earliest time they believe she was abducted) that led her outside, but if she had, surely they would be able to trace the number it came from and then the source of the call?

....maybe they HAVE, and they just haven't told US?

 

[cluciano63]

I thought it was weird from the start that the witness who saw the crouching man did not wait to see more...but they could have been driving by? Not sure if the location of witness was stated factually. Also it seems that there are not any houses so close by as to hear a daylight abduction, necessarily. But in no way was this random, IMO, if such a rural area...you could wait a long time to see a person exit a house...

 

[RubyRed]

I was thinking she may have received a call at 7:10 AM (the earliest time they believe she was abducted) that led her outside, but if she had, surely they would be able to trace the number it came from and then the source of the call?

Or she sent an e-mail.

 

[spamelope]

But he filed for divorce in Virginia on March 30. She left in February, sometime after the 22nd.

I don't think that they were going to agree on anything.

The only way that Michigan would insert itself into a custody issue is if it were an emergency custody issue, unless Venus and the children had been in MI for over 180 days.

Even though he's moved back to Michigan, the divorce filing in Virginia is still standing, because that's where both had been residents.

Right now, Doug has two lawyers. A divorce lawyer in VA and a defense lawyer in MI. Yet their house went into foreclosure. Venus doesn't have a lawyer in Virginia (according to the ct records I saw), and I don't know if she does in MI.

So much is yet to be known about this case.

About the DV conviction and how that would play into the divorce and custody in MI... I wonder if the judge would even weigh that in a custody battle, considering that he's already given her a PPO against Doug. Evidently he believes that Doug is a danger to Venus.

Sigh... so much to think about in this case. None of it is obvious, is it?

I'm sorry, Puf. I should have answered this before. I am all upset about the possibility of Kayleah being found. very bad day with 2 funerals, too.
Doug may have filed in VA even if he was planning on moving back to MI because it could be done faster than if he had to reestablish residency there. And MI would be considered the girls home state since they've spent all but 6 mos of their lives there, which trumps the 6 mos rule that would apply in VA. Custody and divorce are two diff actions, usually, but not necessarily done at the same time. A PPO is a civil matter, unless you violate it, then it becomes criminal. Since all it requires is two pple not harassing each other, judges are not reluctant to order one. It would probably not be the same judge to hear custody as who granted the PPO.They both had PPOs and it probably wouldn't even be admissible. A DV charge, however, would assure you probably wouldn't get custody. Especially if you had 2 and one child was hurt. Since she cleaned out the bank acct in Feb, I don't think DS had the funds to do a whole lot except hire attys and pay child support-and not hit men. Not that i think he's too nice to not try to solicit a hit, just too broke.

 

[thinkaboutthis]

I'm think I'm ready to just occam's razor this thing out and call it a day, how about you guys?

 

[spamelope]

I'm think I'm ready to just occam's razor this thing out and call it a day, how about you guys?

LOL No, Please don't go. You crack me up!
Normally, a case like this really wouldn't hold my interest at all. I would say, "Oh, this is just like we've seen 100 other times. He killed her. So sad. The End." And I would move on to the next thread.
What intrigues me is the fact that I feel like I am being played. There is too much evidence saying "It's DOUG, DOUG DID THIS." This case reeks of staging. There are endless possibilities where DS could be behind all this. There are those where he is 100% innocent. But really, the thing that makes me obsessive about this case is the gut feeling that nothing is as it seems here. I really hope LE tosses us a bone soon. They have been way, way too quiet lately. I wonder what's up?

 

[cluciano63]

Me too...I have nothing more to say until LE has more to say.

 

[BeanE]

Okay I've been searching for a few things and I'm coming up empty. Need some help.

- The guy in the sketch. What happened to him? It seems that news stories just stopped talking about him, stopped saying that LE was looking for him. But I didn't see any announcement from LE that they no longer wish to speak with him. Did LE find him? Talk to him? They're done with him?

- I've seen it posted that Venus left with no clothes or anything for the children. Can't find any articles that talk about that. Did that come out as info at some point?

- I've seen it posted both that when Venus left she took all the money *and* that she left penniless. I can't find any articles that talk about what she did money-wise when she left. Did info come out at some point about this.

- I found two NG transcripts on Venus. Anyone know if there were more than two shows?

Thank you!

 

[daisy7]

- I've seen it posted that Venus left with no clothes or anything for the children. Can't find any articles that talk about that. Did that come out as info at some point?

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[PickieChickie]

Okay I've been searching for a few things and I'm coming up empty. Need some help.

- I found two NG transcripts on Venus. Anyone know if there were more than two shows?

Thank you!

Here is a YouTube search result for Venus Stewart (in order by upload date) where you will find videos of the four shows during which Nancy Grace discussed the abduction of Venus Rose Stewart: http://www.youtube.com/results?sear...o_date_uploaded&suggested_categories=25&uni=3

Perhaps watching those videos will answer your other questions.

 

[thinkaboutthis]

Okay I've been searching for a few things and I'm coming up empty. Need some help.

- The guy in the sketch. What happened to him? It seems that news stories just stopped talking about him, stopped saying that LE was looking for him. But I didn't see any announcement from LE that they no longer wish to speak with him. Did LE find him? Talk to him? They're done with him?

- I've seen it posted that Venus left with no clothes or anything for the children. Can't find any articles that talk about that. Did that come out as info at some point?

- I've seen it posted both that when Venus left she took all the money *and* that she left penniless. I can't find any articles that talk about what she did money-wise when she left. Did info come out at some point about this.

- I found two NG transcripts on Venus. Anyone know if there were more than two shows?

Thank you!

Wetman? Aww shucks...he's like a Unicorn or a Sasquatch. An old Colon wive's tale...he only comes out on the 115th day of each year, except in leap years, then it's the 116th day.
He is rumored to live in the woodsy, swampy areas and he is only seen when he gets a super bad nicotine craving.
He is said to be suffering from early onset Alzheimer's and sometimes forgets to disrobe before swimming.
I wouldn't worry about him. He's just a simple local hump who don't know his butt from a hole in the ground.

I don't think there have been any links stating anything about her leaving with the clothes on her back or draining the bank account. But if someone were to say it on NG, then it must be true.

 

[BeanE]

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Thank you, Daisy. Ugh. I hope Doug has sent the children's clothes and belongings by now. Poor little girls.

 

[mommame]

Okay I've been searching for a few things and I'm coming up empty. Need some help.

- The guy in the sketch. What happened to him? It seems that news stories just stopped talking about him, stopped saying that LE was looking for him. But I didn't see any announcement from LE that they no longer wish to speak with him. Did LE find him? Talk to him? They're done with him?

- I've seen it posted that Venus left with no clothes or anything for the children. Can't find any articles that talk about that. Did that come out as info at some point?

- I've seen it posted both that when Venus left she took all the money *and* that she left penniless. I can't find any articles that talk about what she did money-wise when she left. Did info come out at some point about this.

- I found two NG transcripts on Venus. Anyone know if there were more than two shows?

Thank you!

Can't link it but as I remember it...The money thing came up on a message board that someone linked on here (to a TV station maybe?) where someone posted she wiped the bank account clean.........sooo as far as I have seen nothing credible has been said either way on that subject.

 

[maggieo]

Me too...I have nothing more to say until LE has more to say.

Me three. I'm still thinking about Venus, but I don't think this case is going anywhere until a body is found.