Found Deceased MI - Venus Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - # 8 *D. Stewart guilty*

[Kimberlyd125]

I presume she is deceased.

JMO

 

[grayjay]

I'm just guessing she would have a hard time surviving the tarp experience. I also thought his intentions for her were not along the lines of kiss and make up at all.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Not to mention there is no need for a shovel to hide her somewhere alive.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Just thought I’d throw a list of stuff together. It’s coming from memory. Please feel free to add or correct me as needed. I’m not saying all this is coming from LE, just stuff that has been reported. If I remember it came from LE, I will note that.

What we know/have heard that points to DS
Tire tracks at scene are very close to a match of DS’s truck. Waiting on Truck to arrive in MI
Police say they can put Doug Stewart in St. Joseph County, Michigan the morning Venus Stewart disappeared in April (link: http://www.wsbt.com/news/local/95411964.html )
Search Warrants we saw showed evidence found in both vehicles (Wal-Mart receipt, gloves, possible blood stain…I can’t remember what all was in there)
LE has called him POI since the beginning
LE now says they are sure he was in MI at the time of the abduction
LE now says they are sure the guy who paid the bill in NN claiming to be DS was not DS
The threats we have heard he made
LE says they have found evidence in VA, OH, and MI that they believe is related to VS’s disappearance. (I am assuming they mean evidence they have collected from DS’s apartment, his truck, the Wal-Mart in OH and his parents’ home)
We have heard VS was very scared DS would hurt/kill her if he got the chance.
We have heard VS took out a will shortly before she was abducted stating her wishes of who would take care of the girls.

What we know/have heard that points to DS being framed
Tight time frame (this would depend on if it were really DS who answered cell at 8:00 pm. We have not heard from LE either way if it was or not.)
The fact that so much evidence was left behind

 

[grayjay]

LE says they have an eye witness placing him in MI

:waitasec:
Just yesterday there was an extensive discussion on WS about this one. AFAIK, no LEO said this.

I remember this and I thought it might have been proven with fingerprints, for example, on the bag a tarp came in. Their wording is carefully vague on how they know.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I could have swore I read this today. I'll go back and look. If not, I'll edit and take the LE off.

Thanks.

ETA: fixed it and added link for that one.

 

[Marinemom]

IIRC, the .357 referred to in the document was his father's.

Figuring 750 miles between points, that's an average of roughly 62 mph. To make that average speed, and to do all that he allegedly did, not to mention making it through some of the worst/most congested traffic in the country during rush hour on a Monday afternoon and evening... I simply don't think it's possible.

.....if you ONLY do 62 mph on that highway you'd be passed even by the semi's that's speed limit is 60. I know very few people who would ONLY do 62 on a 70 mph speed limit highway. (maybe a little old lady 99 years old that can hardly see over the steering wheel?) So, driving 70 to 80 mph as MOST people do there, that cuts alot of time off the trip....ESPECIALLY if he was in a hurry to get the heck out of there)

 

[Marinemom]

Yeah.



It seems ol' Doug is quite the risk-taker. Leaving Faux-Doug to tool around NN, he heads to MI (stopping at WalMart along the way, of course), driving a gas-guzzling crew-cab truck, on the chance he'll catch Venus early in the morning---and that no one else in the home will be up and about. Has to be early morning, because he has a long drive back home, and his impersonator goes off duty that night. But what luck! Venus just happens to come out of the house --- and even luckier for Doug --- NO one hears the struggle, no one sees him take her and drive away... in spite of it being a time when people are waking up, going to school and work, walking their dogs, etc. Everyone except Venus' family, that is. Anywho... he manages to do *something* to Venus, ditches his WalMart murder kit, and heads back to VA, again taking a chance that there won't be any delays (accidents, road work, traffic congestion, vehicle trouble, tickets), making it back in an incredible 12 hours after her abduction.

If only his doppelganger hadn't decided to dress like the unabomber that fateful morning...

Most people can easily make a 750 (or less) mile trip in 10 or 10 1/2 hours - especially if you pick up your McDonalds from the drive through or get it right in the gas stations. Many are right in the gas station or truck stop now. (easy to gas up, pick up your food and hit the road)

 

[mysticrose]

Most people can easily make a 750 (or less) mile trip in 10 or 10 1/2 hours - especially if you pick up your McDonalds from the drive through or get it right in the gas stations. Many are right in the gas station or truck stop now. (easy to gas up, pick up your food and hit the road)

Or even pack your own food and your gas in extra tanks in the back, heck you would hardly need to stop

 

[thinkaboutthis]

.....if you ONLY do 62 mph on that highway you'd be passed even by the semi's that's speed limit is 60. I know very few people who would ONLY do 62 on a 70 mph speed limit highway. (maybe a little old lady 99 years old that can hardly see over the steering wheel?) So, driving 70 to 80 mph as MOST people do there, that cuts alot of time off the trip....ESPECIALLY if he was in a hurry to get the heck out of there)

Ummm...I think it's pretty obvious that she was saying the "average" speed for the entire trip would be about 62mph. Not that he would get on the highway and go 62 the whole way there. Obviously, you cannot drive 70 or more the entire way without any stops, lights, tolls, something to eat, drink, pee, gas, etc. If you factor those things in for even a hurried trip, it cuts time off of the average. Unless DS has some new technology that we're unaware of. Somebody even said they own the same type of vehicle and that they are complete gas hogs.

 

[thinkaboutthis]

Or even pack your own food and your gas in extra tanks in the back, heck you would hardly need to stop

Maybe he had a short order chef in the back end of the truck and he could just signal when he was hungry and "Cookie" would just whip him up an omelette or a burger?

 

[mysticrose]

Remember the astronaut lady, the one who put a diaper on and just drove and drove until she reached FL to try and wack off the other woman ? If you are determined enough you can do anything ......

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Well, I think your point was very valid marinemom.
Yours too mysticrose.

IMO it is possible he made the trip back. We don't know for sure what time he got back. All we know is his phone was answered around 8:00 pm. LE did not see him there. And, he had someone else paying his bills and claiming to be him. So, not a far stretch of the imagination to think someone else answered his phone and that allowed him more time to make it home. That extra time would allow for meals and tee tee breaks. IMO

 

[mysticrose]

Ya know my aunt used to set up her home phone to automaticly ring over to her cell phone when she was going to be out of town.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Yeah, I was wondering about call forwarding too. I'm sure if a cell was involved, they may be able to tell if forwarding was done. But, I don't know for sure.
I just don't think he had his cell phone with him because he knew it would be pinging like crazy from VA to MI. I think he left it with the bill paying imposter.

JMO

ETA: Unless he had his calls forwarded to a throw away phones. I'm not sure how that would be traced.
Great point.

 

[pufnstuf]

Yeah, after we've heard that it's possible that the person who answered the phone was the imposter, there's really no time limit anymore.

We don't know when the real Doug got back to his apartment. The thing that's always perplexed me since reading the warrants is that blood was found on the floorboard of the back seat of the Mercury. To me, it sounds like the body may have been transferred from the truck to the car and then disposed of somewhere in Virginia.

Maybe you can explain blood on the truck's interior door as old--Venus got had a cut or something--but how do you explain blood on the floorboard of the Mercury?

 

[pufnstuf]

ETA: Unless he had his calls forwarded to a throw away phones. I'm not sure how that would be traced.
Great point.

That's what I think, Kimberly.

He had a throw-away. He's such a control freak that he would not have left Virginia without some way to keep in touch with his Mini-Me. Likely, Mini-Me also had a throw-away, as well as Doug's cell phone.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I just don't see how anybody would have had access to all the places they have found evidence that they believe is related to the abduction, except DS.
If someone wanted to frame him by doing this, they would have had a lot of places to plant evidence in a very short amount of time. They would have also had to arrange for the bill paying imposter. IMO that would not be easy because the bill paying imposter had a credit/debit card of DS's. How would anybody else have that? Oh, and would have had to have taken DS's truck. And they would have to look a whole lot like DS since LE is saying they can put DS in MI at the time of the abduction.

As hard as I try to wrap my head around the frame theory...I just can't.
I don't think anyone could have pulled that off.

He was the only one that had access to all those places.

ETA: And I forgot about the car. Evidence was found in the car as well.

 

[Cyan]

.....if you ONLY do 62 mph on that highway you'd be passed even by the semi's that's speed limit is 60. I know very few people who would ONLY do 62 on a 70 mph speed limit highway. (maybe a little old lady 99 years old that can hardly see over the steering wheel?) So, driving 70 to 80 mph as MOST people do there, that cuts alot of time off the trip....ESPECIALLY if he was in a hurry to get the heck out of there)

I've driven a similar route... From Kalamazoo, MI to Charlottesville, VA. Approx. 680 miles.
During the day, it took about 11 hours (stopping only to gas up and use facilities, no food stops).

At night, the same route took about 10.25 hours. Interstate the majority of the way. Ave speed on my trips: 70 mph

Kalamazoo, MI to Birmingham, AL. 720 miles. At night 70-75ish mph speeds: 9.5 hours. Daytime: about 10.25 hours.

It's very very possible.

 

[mysticrose]

I wonder if the truck had dual gas tanks ? Plus he very well could have had extra gas in the back of the truck limiting how many times he would need to stop.
Around here you always see trucks with actual small fuel tanks in the bed of the truck holding at least 50 or more gallons of gas with a little pump like this pick here, it says it holds an extra 90 gallons;

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/to...cm_ite=3490130?ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=3490130