Found Deceased MI - Venus Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - # 8 *D. Stewart guilty*

[Marinemom]

Remember the astronaut lady, the one who put a diaper on and just drove and drove until she reached FL to try and wack off the other woman ? If you are determined enough you can do anything ......

Well, my father-in-law carries a men's urinal (the plastic ones like from the hospital) in his vehicle so he doesn't have to stop on road trips. :waitasec:

just sayin'....

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Yeah, a lot of trucks have auxiliary tanks. You just flip a switch in the cab while driving down the road.

 

[thinkaboutthis]

I just don't see how anybody would have had access to all the places they have found evidence that they believe is related to the abduction, except DS.
If someone wanted to frame him by doing this, they would have had a lot of places to plant evidence in a very short amount of time. They would have also had to arrange for the bill paying imposter. IMO that would not be easy because the bill paying imposter had a credit/debit card of DS's. How would anybody else have that? Oh, and would have had to have taken DS's truck. And they would have to look a whole lot like DS since LE is saying they can put DS in MI at the time of the abduction.

As hard as I try to wrap my head around the frame theory...I just can't.
I don't think anyone could have pulled that off.

He was the only one that had access to all those places.

ETA: And I forgot about the car. Evidence was found in the car as well.

If you go back and read the search warrant docs for the truck, a debit card was found in the truck...along with the Walmart receipt.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Well, my father-in-law carries a men's urinal (the plastic ones like from the hospital) in his vehicle so he doesn't have to stop on road trips. :waitasec:

just sayin'....

Men have it so easy. :crazy:

 

[Kimberlyd125]

If you go back and read the search warrant docs for the truck, a debit card was found in the truck...along with the Walmart receipt.

Ok, but I'm talking about the bill payment. I have several cards in my wallet. The card found in the truck may or may not be related to the bill payment or the purchase at Wal-Mart.
Not sure I'm following what you are saying.

ETA: Wouldn't it be possible for the bill paying imposter to have a card of DS's and DS have a card of DS's?

 

[pufnstuf]

I just don't see how anybody would have had access to all the places they have found evidence that they believe is related to the abduction, except DS.
If someone wanted to frame him by doing this, they would have had a lot of places to plant evidence in a very short amount of time. They would have also had to arrange for the bill paying imposter. IMO that would not be easy because the bill paying imposter had a credit/debit card of DS's. How would anybody else have that? Oh, and would have had to have taken DS's truck. And they would have to look a whole lot like DS since LE is saying they can put DS in MI at the time of the abduction.

As hard as I try to wrap my head around the frame theory...I just can't.
I don't think anyone could have pulled that off.

He was the only one that had access to all those places.

ETA: And I forgot about the car. Evidence was found in the car as well.

To me, it's not even a possibility that Doug is being framed. Not even a possibility at all.

Because it was DOUG who provided his alibi to MSP--including paying a bill at his lawyer's office. When MSP checked that alibi, they found that it wasn't Doug who paid the bill but an imposter.

How could someone frame Doug? HE provided his alibi. The alibi that DOUG provided is now fraudulent. No one else could have provided MSP Doug's alibi, only Doug could have. So there's just no way that Doug's being framed.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I agree Puf

ETA: Again, I still think he's toast.

 

[pufnstuf]

Just a guess... just intuition and not grounded in any fact.

But I think that we'll see Doug file for bankruptcy soon. There's no way he can afford all of the lawyer bills that are about to hit him. I wonder how he expects to pay for his defense attorney, once he's charged.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Public defender? Unless some atty or group of attys want free publicity for giving their services in a high profile case.

 

[pufnstuf]

Ok, but I'm talking about the bill payment. I have several cards in my wallet. The card found in the truck may or may not be related to the bill payment or the purchase at Wal-Mart.
Not sure I'm following what you are saying.

ETA: Wouldn't it be possible for the bill paying imposter to have a card of DS's and DS have a card of DS's?

Of course it would.

I guarantee you that DS has credit cards. Doug2 may have had one of Doug1's credit cards and may have paid bills with that. You can also withdraw cash with a credit card.

 

[pufnstuf]

Public defender? Unless some atty or group of attys want free publicity for giving their services in a high profile case.

Who is Michigan's Jose Baez?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Who is Michigan's Jose Baez?

I have no clue. Most cases I have followed have been in FL, NC, CA. I'm not familiar with any MI attorneys. But, I bet they will be crawling out of the woodwork for a high profile case. And if they gather a "dream team" to argue every little thing at every pre trial hearing it will wind up costing the state of MI a ton of money.
Happens all too often.

 

[pufnstuf]

Have you guys seen Michelle Sigona's latest article? She talked to Risko and gleaned this info:

1. Risko - "We know Doug Stewart was in Ohio at a Wal-Mart buying a shovel, hat, gloves and tarp at 6:45 p.m. on the 25th."
2. This Wal-Mart is only two hours away from where Venus was staying with her parents.
3. They have the impersonator on video at Stewart’s apartment complex, and visiting other businesses in the area.


I haven't been online most of the day, but this is the first time that I've seen the time of the Walmart purchase, that the Walmart was only 2 hours from Colon, and that Doug2 was on video at the apartment complex.

http://www.michellesigona.com/2010/06/bizarre-twist-in-missing-mom-abduction/

 

[thinkaboutthis]

Ok, but I'm talking about the bill payment. I have several cards in my wallet. The card found in the truck may or may not be related to the bill payment or the purchase at Wal-Mart.
Not sure I'm following what you are saying.

ETA: Wouldn't it be possible for the bill paying imposter to have a card of DS's and DS have a card of DS's?

I'm saying...with what little confirmed information we have access to, Doug Squared could have had the debit card and the truck. The truck has not yet been conclusively proven to have been anywhere other than Virginia that I know of, yes, I know the likely degraded tire tracks from the spot where the witness who reported it several days after the disappearance "appear" to match, but I think MSP knows whether they match or not. They sent forensics investigators down to VA as soon as the eyewitness came forward to compare the tires with the photos of the tracks taken. The FBI was there too. IMO they know... and they have taken almost a month and still don't have the truck in Michigan to compare and see for sure? There is no proof that I've seen yet that the truck was in Ohio either. That is purely speculation at this point.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Have you guys seen Michelle Sigona's latest article? She talked to Risko and gleaned this info:

1. Risko - "We know Doug Stewart was in Ohio at a Wal-Mart buying a shovel, hat, gloves and tarp at 6:45 p.m. on the 25th."
2. This Wal-Mart is only two hours away from where Venus was staying with her parents.
3. They have the impersonator on video at Stewart’s apartment complex, and visiting other businesses in the area.


I haven't been online most of the day, but this is the first time that I've seen the time of the Walmart purchase, that the Walmart was only 2 hours from Colon, and that Doug2 was on video at the apartment complex.

http://www.michellesigona.com/2010/06/bizarre-twist-in-missing-mom-abduction/

I have not seen it.

They KNOW DS was in the Wal-Mart buying the items!!!! Slam Dunk.
And the imposter was on video at the apartment!!! We kinda figured as much, but I guess it's now confirmed. Wow. DS gave the imposter a lot of access to his stuff. He thought he had the perfect alibi.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I'm saying...with what little confirmed information we have access to, Doug Squared could have had the debit card and the truck. The truck has not yet been conclusively proven to have been anywhere other than Virginia that I know of, yes, I know the likely degraded tire tracks from the spot where the witness who reported it several days after the disappearance "appear" to match, but I think MSP knows whether they match or not. They sent forensics investigators down to VA as soon as the eyewitness came forward to compare the tires with the photos of the tracks taken. The FBI was there too. IMO they know... and they have taken almost a month and still don't have the truck in Michigan to compare and see for sure? There is no proof that I've seen yet that the truck was in Ohio either. That is purely speculation at this point.

I disagree.

Puf's post above is pretty interesting. He's toast.

 

[thinkaboutthis]

Who is Michigan's Jose Baez?

Uh...that would be Geoffrey Fieger...remember him?

Kevorkian's right hand man.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I started to go to bed an hour ago. So glad I didn't. Puf, the article you found gives me so much hope justice will be served.

He's going down!!! I feel like singing that song... na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye!

They need to find Venus. Her family needs answers. As much as her father would like to say he thinks she's alive, I bet he knows in his heart she is gone. I think denial is a big part of copeing until they find her. So sad.

JMO

 

[pufnstuf]

I bet that we'll see an arrest of the accessory soon. This person had to be close enough to Doug to be trusted by Doug to:

1) keep the alibi secret
2) allow the guy access to the apartment
3) put the credit card in his hand and trust him to make the rounds in NN
4) answer the phone and pretend to be Doug when MSP informed him that Venus was missing
5) to provide the "right" answers when questioned over phone by MSP
6) not blow it all by saying, "Hey, I'm just the guy he hired to dress up in his clothes, scoot around NN, pay some bills, and be here until he got back."

My guess... this guy is someone very close to Doug, someone trusted by Doug, and someone who will find himself in a world of hurt as soon as MSP identifies him. Unless he was obvious enough to wear gloves on his visit to the attorney's office to pay the bill, his fingerprints will be found on the credit card slip, which he would have had to sign for Doug.

 

[thinkaboutthis]

I disagree.

Puf's post above is pretty interesting. He's toast.

Yep, that.