Found Deceased MI - Venus Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - # 8 *D. Stewart guilty*

[Natal]

Why would the arrest him now, when they're still looking for the person who alibied him? Why start the speedy trial clock ticking while they're still investigating?

If they could irrefutably place him at the scene it wouldn't matter what his alibi was. They don't need to find the "impersonator". That person would be facing separate charges and that investigation could continue irrespective of what happens with DS.

 

[BeanE]

LARRY MCCOMB: He told me he told the police every step he took that day. I asked him again. He repeated his answer.

Every step. This has been ringing in my head the past few days.

 

[BeanE]

Well, regardless of that, they need to place him at Venus' parents house at the time she disappeared.

I'm sure they want to, but they don't need to.

 

[BeanE]

If they could irrefutably place him at the scene it wouldn't matter what his alibi was.

What type of evidence irrefutably places a person at a crime scene? My understanding is that there is no type of evidence of this sort that has not been refuted at trial - video, DNA, fingerprints, eyewitnesses - I just can't think of anything that hasn't been refuted.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I would like to hear someones theory of how this could have went down if DS did not do it.

Seems all the theories based on evidence and statements by LE have been shot down by some who think DS is being framed.

Can someone who thinks he did not do this share their theory of how someone else could have planted all of this to frame DS.

There seems to be a lot of things pointing to DS. There has been evidence that LE believes is related to the abduction that has been collected at his apartment, his truck, his car, his parents home, and now LE says they KNOW he was the one who bought the items at Wal-Mart.

IMO if you feel sure he did not abduct VS you have a theory in mind. Anyone have an theories?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

They say or express an opinion you mean.

No, I mean it's already cracked. If they have evidence that puts DS in the Wal-mart at 6 something Sunday night, where he was before that is invalid. They say they have evidence that puts him in the Wal-mart then in MI. What would it matter where he was before?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I doubt the shovel was part of the plan, if it was he would have got all that stuff in Virginia before he left (if we are to believe all the elaborate preparations he did there). Also, when he got to Colon he apparently had no plan at all, just wait outside on the off chance that she would come out alone (what are the chances of that?).

The whole proposed elaborate plan/no plan at all aspect of this is just crazy.

So, why do you think he bought the shovel along with the tarp, the gloves, and the hat.

In my opinion, it had to be part of the plan. Just as much as the other items.

 

[maggieo]

I have to say, if this really did happen the way it looks like it happened, it's got to be one of the most original murder schemes I've ever seen. Instead of hiring a guy to do the murder while he stayed home and lived a life of bill-paying and apartment dwelling, he hired a guy to play the INNOCENT him, while he went off and did the murder!

Seriously, I wish I'd written it.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

If the person on the video resembled DS, and was wearing a hoodie and sunglasses, they can't be sure that it wasn't him. If the video was clear enough to be certain that it wasn't DS then it is clear enough to put on TV to get the public to call in tips. Why hasn't that been done if they really want to find this person? That is done in other cases where an unknown party involved in a crime appears on video, so why not in this case?

Risko also could not say how they know DS was in Ohio and Michigan. If their evidence is the reciept and/or unrelated third party witnesses then they can't be sure of that even if they say they are.

Well they say they KNOW it wasn't him, are you saying they are lieing?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

LARRY MCCOMB: He told me he told the police every step he took that day. I asked him again. He repeated his answer.

Every step. This has been ringing in my head the past few days.

Yeah he told them every step allright. He gave them a false alibi is what he did. Now LE knows he was lieing through his teeth.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I have to say, if this really did happen the way it looks like it happened, it's got to be one of the most original murder schemes I've ever seen. Instead of hiring a guy to do the murder while he stayed home and lived a life of bill-paying and apartment dwelling, he hired a guy to play the INNOCENT him, while he went off and did the murder!

Seriously, I wish I'd written it.

Because he's a control freak IMO. He wanted to hurt her. His rage and ego took over. He thought he would give his fake alibi and be cleared right away.

 

[maggieo]

Because he's a control freak IMO. He wanted to hurt her. His rage and ego took over. He thought he would give his fake alibi and be cleared right away.

I think you're right. He didn't trust anyone else to do it right.

(My comment wasn't one of disbelief -- just amazement at the weirdness of this story. I've been following this from the very beginning and had NO clue it would get this bizarre.)

 

[believe09]

They would have asked questions when they called, and he would have answered them. Not the answers they would have wanted, but still answers. And an answer doesn't need to be factual to be an answer, it could be something like "i don't know", "I don't care", "F you", who knows, but he would have said something. Unless you are trying to suggest that he didn't say anything at all or just hung up.

Or he lawyered up immediately-and referred all questions. Which is what I believe he did. Because, let's face it they had not chatted with him before. How hard would it be to have the faux Doug read off a prepared statement regarding referring all questions to DS' attorney?

Not that I am completely invested in the theory that this is what happened. I am a fan of DS making it back in time to get the call.

 

[BeanE]

I have to say, if this really did happen the way it looks like it happened, it's got to be one of the most original murder schemes I've ever seen. Instead of hiring a guy to do the murder while he stayed home and lived a life of bill-paying and apartment dwelling, he hired a guy to play the INNOCENT him, while he went off and did the murder!

Seriously, I wish I'd written it.

Actually, it's not original. Someone posted a case in the last thread where someone did the same thing. I'm sure with some searching more similar cases could be found.

 

[mommame]

Not if they can place an item he bought there at the scene of the crime.
And if the UPC code on that tarp wrapper matches the UPC code on the tarp he bought the day before, that would pretty much do it. IMO

Wouldn't the UPC code match the code on the receipt?

 

[BeanE]

Yeah he told them every step allright. He gave them a false alibi is what he did. Now LE knows he was lieing through his teeth.

Well, the reason that keeps playing through my head is because I couldn't tell you every step of what I did yesterday. But... if I'd constructed a script or set of instructions for someone to do A, then B, then C, etc, I most definitely would be able to recite that. Every step of it. Easy peasy.

The thing is, people have no reason to track and remember and recite every step of what they did on a certain day, and so, they are unable to readily, upon receiving an unexpected phone call, have one and only one conversation in which they are able to recite every step of what they did on a certain day. We're just not constructed that way, that we can do that.

 

[grayjay]

They would certainly have fingerprint results back weeks ago. If DS's fingerprints were on the tarp bag he would probably be under arrest by now or at the very least LE would be placing him directly at the scene. The fact that none of that has happened suggests there are no fingerprints, at least not his.

They might not want to tell everything they know, and yet want to tip enough of it to get help from the public. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they can already place him directly at the scene.

It could also be cheaper, to send the tire cast to NN and have a tire expert there make the comparison, than to ship the truck on a flatbed. They could very well also have that information nailed down and not feel the need to tip the public on it.

 

[mommame]

ok, here is a WHAT IF situation..all just MOO and thinking out loud but

What if his original plan when he got the accomplise was to go and get his kids.....one way or another they are his kids and no way was he letting her have them...........Doug2 bought into that plan. And agreed to cover for Doug1........but along the way to Mi Doug1 decided to do things a bit different, and since he had the perfect alibi, he would end up with his girls any way. Might take a bit longer but it would all work out for him ( in his mind any way) hence he then stopped and did the infamous Walmart shopping trip.

Doug2 may well have bought that story...some men/father's have been burnt by ex's and will buy into another guys sob stories and want to help ( meaning been burnt in their own minds and not always the case but any way) I can see Doug2 wanting to help in this kind of situation much more then "Hey, ya wanna cover for me, I'm off on a day trip to Mi to kidnap and murder my wife who just left me" . ..not saying this is what happened at all but........kinda makes sence to me that he could have gotten help this way...after the fact doug2 finds out what really took place and now............he is up **** creek. either way he is in to deep to come forward..........he had already pretended for a whole day to be Doug1

MOO and all that stuff

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Well, the reason that keeps playing through my head is because I couldn't tell you every step of what I did yesterday. But... if I'd constructed a script or set of instructions for someone to do A, then B, then C, etc, I most definitely would be able to recite that. Every step of it. Easy peasy.

The thing is, people have no reason to track and remember and recite every step of what they did on a certain day, and so, they are unable to readily, upon receiving an unexpected phone call, have one and only one conversation in which they are able to recite every step of what they did on a certain day. We're just not constructed that way, that we can do that.

I totally agree. He had this all planned out in his head and most likely went over it in his head several times on his long trip to MI.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Wouldn't the UPC code match the code on the receipt?

I'm sure it would. That tarp wrapper will place him at the crime scene. IMO