Michael Jackson ~ new accuser files

[Linda7NJ]

Why hire Anthony Pellicano?
AKA The Sin Eater~

Anthony quit working for Jackson when he discovered some horrific truths. He fairly recently made a statement about MJ ....

Look at the people Jackson surrounded himself with...like gay pornographers whose specialty was procuring young men barely legal. He surrounded himself with people that could be bought. And when they couldn't be bought, he accused them...of being greedy, liars, thieves, grifters.

There are countless famous & successful men that somehow manage not to be repeatedly accused of child sexual abuse.

Look at his rapid fans ...that to this day, believe his ridiculous bold face lies.

All IMO

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Jailed hacker to the stars Anthony Pellicano claims Michael Jackson did 'far worse than molest young boys'

He claimed he told Jackson he would only work for him if he wasn't guilty.

'I said, "You don't have to worry about cops or lawyers. If I find out anything, I will * you over",' he said.

'I quit after I found out some truths.

'He did something far worse to young boys than molest them.'

But the investigator did not elaborate on his sensational claim.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-Jackson-did-far-worse-molest-young-boys.html

I wonder what?

 

[Linda7NJ]

Jailed hacker to the stars Anthony Pellicano claims Michael Jackson did 'far worse than molest young boys'

He claimed he told Jackson he would only work for him if he wasn't guilty.

'I said, "You don't have to worry about cops or lawyers. If I find out anything, I will * you over",' he said.

'I quit after I found out some truths.

'He did something far worse to young boys than molest them.'

But the investigator did not elaborate on his sensational claim.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-Jackson-did-far-worse-molest-young-boys.html

I wonder what?

You and me both

I'm also very interested into looking at the trip Schaffel made to South America for MJ to Brazil to be exact, with 4 million dollars.

Marc Schaffel too knows what's up...as does Debbie Rowe.

All IMO
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/07/10/michael-jackson-tried-to-adopt-brazilian-babies/

 

[Linda7NJ]

Here's a little more about Marc and $$$$

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2009/12/29/Hollywood-and-I--Both-Wrong-About-Michael-Jackson

 

[Linda7NJ]

This is not an interview with a boy with a rehearsed script.

It just isn't.
http://desireespeakssolisten.blogspot.com/p/jordie-chandler-interview-october-6.html?m=1

 

[MissJ]

A grown man who thinks its ok (and loving) to share his bed with small boys and not his wife has a screw loose.

 

[redheadedgal]

guess pellicano forgot what he stated about quitting back when he actually quit:

"In no way, shape or form does (my resignation) indicate that Michael Jackson is guilty," Pellicano said. "Michael Jackson is not guilty, and all the things I said in the past I reaffirm."

Pellicano insisted that he pulled out of the case because it was taking too much of his time and because his investigation was essentially complete. "The investigation has all been done and is now in the hands of the lawyers," he said.

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-12-22/local/me-4447_1_michael-jackson

 

[redheadedgal]

Look at his rapid fans ...that to this day, believe his ridiculous bold face lies.

All IMO

is that supposed to be rabid fans? regardless, i don't think the name calling is fair...

 

[redheadedgal]

This is not an interview with a boy with a rehearsed script.

It just isn't.
http://desireespeakssolisten.blogspot.com/p/jordie-chandler-interview-october-6.html?m=1

considering the dr's views, i don't put much faith in his opinion of abuse claim validity:

"There is a bit of pedophilia in every one of us."
Gardner, R.A. (1991). Sex Abuse Hysteria: Salem Witch Trials Revisited . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (p. 118)

In addition, Gardner proposes that many different types of human sexual behavior, including pedophilia, sexual sadism, necrophilia (sex with corpses), zoophilia (sex with animals), coprophilia (sex involving defecation), can be seen as having species survival value and thus do "not warrant being excluded from the list of the `so-called natural forms of human sexual behavior.'"
​

Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (pp. 18-32)

"The normal child exhibits a wide variety of sexual fantasies and behaviors, many of which would be labeled as 'sick' or 'perverted' if exhibited by adults"
Gardner, R.A. (1991). Sex Abuse Hysteria: Salem Witch Trials Revisited . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (p. 12)

'Sex abuse is not necessarily traumatic; the determinant as to whether sexual molestation will be traumatic to the child, is the social attitude toward these encounters."
Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (pp. 670-71)

"In such discussions the (abused) child has to be helped to appreciate that we have in our society an exaggeratedly punitive and moralistic attitude about adult-child sexual encounters"
Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics.(p. 572)

"The removal of a pedophilic parent from the home "should only be seriously considered after all attempts at treatment of the pedophilia and rapprochement with the family have proven futile"
Gardner, R.A. (1991). Sex Abuse Hysteria: Salem Witch Trials Revisited . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (p. 119)

"Our present overreaction to pedophilia represents an exaggeration of Judeo-Christian principles and is a significant factor operative in Western society's atypicality with regard to such activities"
Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (pp. 46-7)

http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/1/pas/RAG.html

 

[redheadedgal]

A judge in Los Angeles has thrown out a molestation lawsuit against the estate of Michael Jackson

more @ http://www.people.com/article/michael-jackson-wade-robson-molestation-case-dismissed

 

[Donjeta]

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/michael-jackson-police-reports-search-warrant-🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬/


Michael Jackson hid a sinister house of horrors inside his infamous Neverland Ranch, stockpiling images of , animal torture, S&M and gore in a bid to seduce innocent young boys.
Nearly seven years after the King of Pop’s death, RadarOnline.com has obtained never-before-seen reports from the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department that show the true depths of his depravity.
http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/mj-docs.pdf http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/mj-docs.pdf

 

[Margo/Mom]

considering the dr's views, i don't put much faith in his opinion of abuse claim validity:

"There is a bit of pedophilia in every one of us."
Gardner, R.A. (1991). Sex Abuse Hysteria: Salem Witch Trials Revisited . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (p. 118)

In addition, Gardner proposes that many different types of human sexual behavior, including pedophilia, sexual sadism, necrophilia (sex with corpses), zoophilia (sex with animals), coprophilia (sex involving defecation), can be seen as having species survival value and thus do "not warrant being excluded from the list of the `so-called natural forms of human sexual behavior.'"
​

Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (pp. 18-32)

"The normal child exhibits a wide variety of sexual fantasies and behaviors, many of which would be labeled as 'sick' or 'perverted' if exhibited by adults"
Gardner, R.A. (1991). Sex Abuse Hysteria: Salem Witch Trials Revisited . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (p. 12)

'Sex abuse is not necessarily traumatic; the determinant as to whether sexual molestation will be traumatic to the child, is the social attitude toward these encounters."
Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (pp. 670-71)

"In such discussions the (abused) child has to be helped to appreciate that we have in our society an exaggeratedly punitive and moralistic attitude about adult-child sexual encounters"
Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics.(p. 572)

"The removal of a pedophilic parent from the home "should only be seriously considered after all attempts at treatment of the pedophilia and rapprochement with the family have proven futile"
Gardner, R.A. (1991). Sex Abuse Hysteria: Salem Witch Trials Revisited . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (p. 119)

"Our present overreaction to pedophilia represents an exaggeration of Judeo-Christian principles and is a significant factor operative in Western society's atypicality with regard to such activities"
Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (pp. 46-7)

http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/1/pas/RAG.html

The Leadership Council?????

Now there's an org with an agenda! IJS

 

[Margo/Mom]

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/michael-jackson-police-reports-search-warrant-🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬/


Michael Jackson hid a sinister house of horrors inside his infamous Neverland Ranch, stockpiling images of , animal torture, S&M and gore in a bid to seduce innocent young boys.
Nearly seven years after the King of Pop’s death, RadarOnline.com has obtained never-before-seen reports from the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department that show the true depths of his depravity.
http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/mj-docs.pdf http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/mj-docs.pdf

Interesting, and there's a lot of things about Mr. Jackson we are likely to never know.

Clearly the man, while intensely talented, was a mess. It is a tragedy that his drug addiction was catered to so bizarrely by a professional enabler. And he clearly said and did some very stupid things in full public view (claiming that it was simply a "loving" and wholly non-sexual act to take young boys to his bed--and in fact continuing to do so despite his very clear legal and financial vulnerability). I have always supposed him to be gay, but deeply conflicted about it, based on his family's religious beliefs--enhanced by having grown up not only completely separated from the possibility of non-family, non-show-business peers--but also in a life of being continually onstage, groomed himself to fit a saleable image.

The reluctance of those he is presumed to have abused to offer any supportive testimony to that fact may well be a function of the highly confused nature of the grooming process or manipulations.

I wince just a bit at reviewing a new list of items, for two reasons. First because lesser persons have been sent away for less. But second because it I see a tendency to conflate homoerotic materials with pedophilia. And without actually viewing items described, it is very difficult to arrive at a sense of whether child (or adult) nudity constitutes anything erotic or pornographic. I can understand why perhaps such materials were not used at trial. He was not being accused of possession/production of child --he was accused of child sexual abuse. And, while it may be very stupid for an adult to have erotic materials around within easy reach in a household where non-relative children are routine guests--well, that alone doesn't necessarily prove the crime at hand.

I would imagine that every few years new stories will pop up--a testimony to the man's popularity and our attraction to certain topics.

 

[LinasK]

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/michael-jackson-police-reports-search-warrant-🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬/


Michael Jackson hid a sinister house of horrors inside his infamous Neverland Ranch, stockpiling images of , animal torture, S&M and gore in a bid to seduce innocent young boys.
Nearly seven years after the King of Pop’s death, RadarOnline.com has obtained never-before-seen reports from the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department that show the true depths of his depravity.
http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/mj-docs.pdf http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/mj-docs.pdf

From this article: Before his death, the “Billie Jean” singer paid out nearly $200 million in hush money to as many as 20 sexual assault victims, lawyers said.
That says it all!

This only confirms what I've known all along that a star-struck jury couldn't see- Michael Jackson was a pedophile!!!

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

From this article: Before his death, the “Billie Jean” singer paid out nearly $200 million in hush money to as many as 20 sexual assault victims, lawyers said.
That says it all!

This only confirms what I've known all along that a star-struck jury couldn't see- Michael Jackson was a pedophile!!!

Ditto Ditto Ditto!

 

[LinasK]

. But second because it I see a tendency to conflate homoerotic materials with pedophilia. And without actually viewing items described, it is very difficult to arrive at a sense of whether child (or adult) nudity constitutes anything erotic or pornographic. I can understand why perhaps such materials were not used at trial. He was not being accused of possession/production of child --he was accused of child sexual abuse. And, while it may be very stupid for an adult to have erotic materials around within easy reach in a household where non-relative children are routine guests--well, that alone doesn't necessarily prove the crime at hand.

I would imagine that every few years new stories will pop up--a testimony to the man's popularity and our attraction to certain topics.

Let's not be a pedophile apologist. There are child listed in with adult . He used them for grooming. Common sense says that where there's smoke, there's fire.

 

[x_files]

Let's not be a pedophile apologist. There are child listed in with adult . He used them for grooming. Common sense says that where there's smoke, there's fire.

I feel sick. Every time I hear MJ's music I feel queasy esp. when it's in a kid's movie. I hope Disney and other kid's shows & movies stops using his music.

 

[Frigga]

Yeah- no pedophile apologists- PLEASE! If it is your kid are you singing the same tune?

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I'm glad they're releasing this info .. The Jordy Chandler case was enough for most of us and he should have been stopped then. Sympathy with all the victims who have been painted as liars and opportunists for decades.

 

[kaen]

I was always a fan of MJ, until the first rumors started and Neverland came to light. It is ironic to me that had he been criminally charged in 2003 for child or seal assault, MJ would be alive today---alive and quite possibly still incarcerated. The drug stuff happened because he knew he was a few steps short of losing it all.

I have heard that the RADAR stuff is not accurate. I have been trying to find independent verification of the things mentioned in the article and the attached file. Anyone else hear the assertions that the information is false?