Michelle Young. Murdered Pregnant Mom, NC Part 11

[pack_fan]

Good points and I agree with you earlier, for some reason LE is not seeking the public's assistance on this. Maybe they've got what they need - a video from the hotel showing him arriving, leaving (and returning). If they don't have this surely they would be requesting assistance. Then again they haven't even named him as a suspect so maybe this has something to do with it. I'd like to know at what point one changes from POI to suspect.

I have no sympathy for JY either. You said it best.

Does seem odd that they are not looking for information from the public. One plea from LF to ask anyone to come forward but that's it. As for the lack of "investigative reporting", I don't know that Amanda Lamb would be able to do this. This is just a local tv station and she covers many stories, not just this one. She is on location reporting every night. I think Michelle's case is very personal to her but I don't know how much leeway she has to go off and do some sleuthing.

As for the negative reporting against JY, I think they have been very fair with JY. None of the local stations or national media have come out and accused him. They have maintained that he is a person of interest but not a suspect. The only things reported in the media have been directly from LE, the search warrants and NTO. It seems as if this is negative against JY but for the search warrants they have to give probable cause. This may or may not turn out to be anything.

JMO, of course....

 

[raisincharlie]

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Charlie, Remember we did have one post from an insider who stated JY stayed at a motel 1/2 hour away from his home. In the end we might find out that was true.

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Enough to make you wonder isn't it ? :crazy:

 

[pack_fan]

Sami seems to have started the other threads, I'm sure she will be back later tonight and will know how to do it. As for me, don't have a clue.

 

[jilly]

Mornin' Jilly, They haven't named him as a suspect, but in the People article Johnson says something like ' . .he has not been cleared as a suspect'. It wasn't the word cleared, but meant the same thing. So even though he has not been officialy named as a suspect, that is how LE looks at him.

I just looked it up (still have the mag). It says "has not been ruled out as a suspect". So yes, you're right - that's how they are looking at him. Good catch Scandi!

 

[scandi]

YaYa Charlie, it is enough to drive one :crazy: because I think they really have so much on this guy but have to be missing something vital to the case. Did LE at one point say they just haven't placed him at the scene at the time of the killing? I think so, and that is why there is a new approach by LE now to get to personally know all those neighbors in Enchanted Oaks. That grunt work might pay off big time, and I hope sooner than later!


Thanks Jilly;} I don't know why my mind retains some things and not others, but I am a firm believer that when someone with an agenda speaks, there is usually some truth hidden there. It is a matter of ferreting out the truth!

 

[raisincharlie]

You all need to pay a visit to CTV - gojo is telling the real story on todays thread - cut and paste before it disappears


Thursday Feb 8 thread page 9.

 

[5bigfish5]

You all need to pay a visit to CTV - gojo is telling the real story on todays thread - cut and paste before it disappears


Thursday Feb 8 thread page 9.

Hi RaisinCharlie,

Been there, done that. More spin. :banghead:

If you go by a similar moniker there, I responded to yours.

Cheers!

 

[crimeq]

Thinking Crimeq, about your new found weapon, I'm wondering if a yuppie like JY would even know about a weapon like this. If he were Oriental yes, Middle Eastern, maybe.

I've also been thinking about her shoulder wound. Barney said it was quite defined. I interpreted that meant a coroner could use it to determine an exact weapon if it fit into the wound. Now would this ring be big enough to fit?

Also, from what I think I have learned here that cut on the left side of her jaw was most likely made as the weapon glanced off on it's way to hit her shoulder. Would that be possible with thie thingamejig? It was an exceptional find on your part sweetie, and for one thing, analyzing it makes us focus on what the weapon could really have been. That is something we want to know, as it will lead to the most important thing - premeditation or not IMHO With everything I know, JY killed her.

Hi Scandi, thanks for the response.

I can't estimate whether JY would know of something like the sunstetsu or not. (A hit man may well know of it.)

From reading online, it doesn't take a lot to learn to use, which is why one of the trainers suggests "everyone" carry one for protection. And it can be used lethally.

I was most intrigued by the ring. It's not a small ring, in relation to the size of the weapon. It could definitely leave a crescent-shaped mark with a closed-fist punch behind it, but without having the dimensions of the ring / weapon--don't know. I do see that it could make all the other injuries Michelle had.

I sent the info to Donnie Harrison and hope LE will check it out against MY's wounds, and in particular the crescent-shaped mark. It's in their hands now!

 

[crimeq]

You all need to pay a visit to CTV - gojo is telling the real story on todays thread - cut and paste before it disappears


Thursday Feb 8 thread page 9.

I hope Gojo sticks around. I think he's honest and appreciate the insight he's given so far--and the fact he went out to upgrade his computer connection so he could "run faster"! This is great info from an insider, IMO.

 

[scandi]

I'm glad you sent that off to them Crimeq. Now only if they would reciprocate and send something back to you! Ya sure ya bet 'cha

At least they know we have taken their investigation to heart.


Thanks Charlie for the one-up. It seems every time I print off a post from a post at CTV it prints out in one long column! :banghead: Wish I knew why.

 

[raisincharlie]

Hi RaisinCharlie,

Been there, done that. More spin. :banghead:

If you go by a similar moniker there, I responded to yours.

Cheers!

I saw you ! I get the feeling this is JTF re-incarnated with a different tone. Until such person can actually answer a straight question with a straight answer this will remain my opinion. :crazy:

 

[crimeq]

I saw you ! I get the feeling this is JTF re-incarnated with a different tone. Until such person can actually answer a straight question with a straight answer this will remain my opinion. :crazy:

I'll be watching! Gojo does seem to have warmth in his tone, while JTF seemed angrier and taunting. I'm not sure that big a change could occur in posting style, but stranger things have happened! And the information Gojo is delivering seems straight-forward, while JTF's obviously was not, but was clouded in riddles.

Another newbie, Thr33-something, seems reincarnated. One of the first posts referred specificially to Coldwater and shutdowns of the thread because of going O/T. I'll be watching that style, too, to see if it rings a bell!

 

[happy2bn10ec]

Hi Happy! I think this might have been right after the murder happened and the media checked out the daycare to see if Cassidy was scheduled to be there that Friday. At that point everybody was wondering if Michelle was schedule for work that day as well. So, Cassidy would not have been there. Just guessing about this.

We've been told (rumor) that JY and Cassidy are staying with his sister in Brevard. Nothing more.

Thanks, Jilly. I was a little bumfuzzled about that...

 

[happy2bn10ec]

Good points and I agree with you earlier, for some reason LE is not seeking the public's assistance on this. Maybe they've got what they need - a video from the hotel showing him arriving, leaving (and returning). If they don't have this surely they would be requesting assistance. Then again they haven't even named him as a suspect so maybe this has something to do with it. I'd like to know at what point one changes from POI to suspect.

I have no sympathy for JY either. You said it best.

I tend to think they have what they need - not once have I heard them asking the public for ANYTHING. Reminds me of the cops in CA asking for anyone who had possibly seen Scott P that day in his truck hauling the boat to come forward so they could verify his alibi. Which, of course, his alibi was what bit him in the end anyway - putting himself where the body washed up. But anyway...horse of a different color.

 

[scandi]

Velly Intellesting. I think we have the SF and JY in two of those posters. Now in come the forces for backup. LOL We could be in for an onslought. Keep those good instincts zoned in. I love it!

And now I'm not getting a bit of work done :banghead:

 

[jilly]

I tend to think they have what they need - not once have I heard them asking the public for ANYTHING. Reminds me of the cops in CA asking for anyone who had possibly seen Scott P that day in his truck hauling the boat to come forward so they could verify his alibi. Which, of course, his alibi was what bit him in the end anyway - putting himself where the body washed up. But anyway...horse of a different color.

Too many similarities Happy - Laci and Michelle. It's eerie.

 

[raisincharlie]

I'll be watching! Gojo does seem to have warmth in his tone, while JTF seemed angrier and taunting. I'm not sure that big a change could occur in posting style, but stranger things have happened! And the information Gojo is delivering seems straight-forward, while JTF's obviously was not, but was clouded in riddles.

Another newbie, Thr33-something, seems reincarnated. One of the first posts referred specificially to Coldwater and shutdowns of the thread because of going O/T. I'll be watching that style, too, to see if it rings a bell!

Crimeq,

You need to excuse me but until these folks present something of substance I will continue to doubt them. While gojo seemed straight forward it ended the same - whatever happened was someone else's fault. In this case LE messed the entire family over and forced JY to hide in the house with a couple of his buddies (what were they doing at Meredith's house?) and get a lawyer. Then gojo disappears just as previous posters. No real questions answered only talk about what they choose and nothing verifiable.

I don't buy it nor will I buy it, I have been around LE too long and have seen with my own eyes how things of a sensitive nature are handled - this presentation IMO was a boat load of garbage. Granted I don't know how WCSO handles things - but I have very serious doubts it was handled in the fashion presented by the poster especially when there is a direct quote from LE about what was said. JMo of course and I have been wrong before. Someone here will slap some sense into me I am thankfully.

 

[Samiya]

Crimeq,

You need to excuse me but until these folks present something of substance I will continue to doubt them. While gojo seemed straight forward it ended the same - whatever happened was someone else's fault. In this case LE messed the entire family over and forced JY to hide in the house with a couple of his buddies (what were they doing at Meredith's house?) and get a lawyer. Then gojo disappears just as previous posters. No real questions answered only talk about what they choose and nothing verifiable.

I don't buy it nor will I buy it, I have been around LE too long and have seen with my own eyes how things of a sensitive nature are handled - this presentation IMO was a boat load of garbage. Granted I don't know how WCSO handles things - but I have very serious doubts it was handled in the fashion presented by the poster especially when there is a direct quote from LE about what was said. JMo of course and I have been wrong before. Someone here will slap some sense into me I am thankfully.

Don't look at me to slap any sense into ya honey, lmao

Now if we go by GoJo,

WHO invited Jason's FRIENDS over to MEREDITH'S house?

"Hey bud's, me missus was murdered. Meet me at her sister's house"

?????????????

Sami

 

[Samiya]

ahem **cough cough**

part 12.... http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46870

Please don't make me copy and paste no more.

lol

Sami

 

[jilly]

Well I don't know what to make of Gojo. Too early for me. Have to see where he goes from here.

I can actually believe that this happened. Frank makes a good point in that LE scared off JY & his family. I agree, if what Gojo says is true. I guess they expected a hug from LE - doesn't work that way. Anyone in his position - John Walsh, Klaas etal will attest to the hell that they had to go through to clear themselves.

Those LE officers had just witnessed a very brutal murder and their priority is to find the killer - not to frame. I believe like everyone else that he still could have cooperated with his lawyer. He could have insisted on it but he didn't.According to Gojo the condolences expressed at the funeral were too little too late.

Gojo's postings have just made me a bit uneasy about LE. JY didn't have a lawyer up to that point and I'm thinking that they might have blown it with the way that they handled it with JYs mother.

I'm still wondering why (if it's true) that LE didn't get the Brevard LE to go over to JYs mother's place and wait for him. I've never heard about info like this being passed along by telephone. If it is true, I think they blew it here too.jmo