Michelle Young, pregnant mom, murdered Part 19

[raisincharlie]

He has every one chasing their tails with tales of condoms, bloody socks, turned over to lawyer, nope threw away, etc. without ever giving a definitive answer on the topics and info he starts.

I'm pretty sure that is the goal Strach - send everyone in circles to figure things out for him so he can report back. Who really gives a rats butt about a bunch of unused condoms and just what kind of evidence can be gleamed from them ? First we heard the jewelry was gone from the jewelry box, now we hear it was stuffed with condoms - what next ?

What a total crock and totally perverse. I think he enjoys the entertainment he generates for himself. This is a sick game for him.

 

[spring]

Spring,
Thanks for the additional info...and I'm sure the other person you sent the info to will get it to the appropriate personnel. You did good!

you're welcome! justice for Michelle!!

 

[jake]

So what has the failure to do an SA test got to do with the box of condoms that you say was found in the house. I'd like you to clarify the issue of the box of unused condoms. Were they taken by investigators during a search, or were they found by a family member or friend after the house was released by LE? And what relevance do you think they might have to the crime?

Totally mystified, Scout, why ccbi or le would take it. The person who told me about it is also in the dark. Can't figure any relevance at all. Can't even remember how it came up on the board.

--Jake

 

[harleysnana]

Okay. If I took something from that location, or threw something away I found at that location, I believe LE could not arrest me. I believe the location was no longer THE crime scene. It's a location I need to clean up.

--Jake

Wouldn't it be funny Jake... if LE left something at the location
to see how honest Jason and his family was?
And you all fell for it?


Maybe it's just me ....but I would turn anything and everything over
that I thought would help find the killer!
But then again... I would also talk to LE to clear myself so they could
rule me out ASAP!

 

[spring]

Wouldn't it be funny Jake... if LE left something at the location
to see how honest Jason and his family was?
And you all fell for it?


Maybe it's just me ....but I would turn anything and everything over
that I thought would help find the killer!
But then again... I would also talk to LE to clear myself so they could
rule me out ASAP!

you know, it's one thing to clean up the house and not think you are doing anything wrong, but to be snatching up things and wondering if LE would not be happy about it, seemed kinda paranoid to me. or someone trying to cover someone else's tracks......

or were people taking mementos from a murder scene? that's kinda weird in my book.

 

[MagicRose99]

It would seem to me, that all husbands, ex-husbands, fathers, etc., would take a page from Mark Klaas's book... answer each and every question LE puts to you, take a lie detector test, etc., to CLEAR you of the crime, so that LE can look for the REAL perp... when they refuse to do so... it tells me there is guilt there.

 

[spring]

It would seem to me, that all husbands, ex-husbands, fathers, etc., would take a page from Mark Klaas's book... answer each and every question LE puts to you, take a lie detector test, etc., to CLEAR you of the crime, so that LE can look for the REAL perp... when they refuse to do so... it tells me there is guilt there.

the truth shall set you free, if you're innocent

 

[strach304]

Wouldn't it be funny Jake... if LE left something at the location
to see how honest Jason and his family was?
And you all fell for it?


Maybe it's just me ....but I would turn anything and everything over
that I thought would help find the killer!
But then again... I would also talk to LE to clear myself so they could
rule me out ASAP!

For all we know whatever the "it" is could've come from LE. I read on the other board that the jelly beans were from the Sheriff.

 

[spring]

For all we know whatever the "it" is could've come from LE. I read on the other board that the jelly beans were from the Sheriff.

how interesting is that. i hadn't heard that. the brevard clan tried to say the killer used the jellybeans while (they said she) cared for the little girl that morning.

what board was that on?

 

[spring]

For all we know whatever the "it" is could've come from LE. I read on the other board that the jelly beans were from the Sheriff.

i am really finding that interesting. if i recall correctly, it was jy's family that brought up the jellybeans and the sinister nature of them on the boards. thinking about it, how did that family know the jellybeans were not there prior? it was near halloween. did jason perhaps see pics and know that these jellybeans were not there when HE was there? are we getting things from the silent one potentially?

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

I'm pretty sure that is the goal Strach - send everyone in circles to figure things out for him so he can report back. Who really gives a rats butt about a bunch of unused condoms and just what kind of evidence can be gleamed from them ? First we heard the jewelry was gone from the jewelry box, now we hear it was stuffed with condoms - what next ?

What a total crock and totally perverse. I think he enjoys the entertainment he generates for himself. This is a sick game for him.

Mornin' RC:

Mr DNA Guru has been out of the office for the last 2 days, just got my email today. He said he'll get back to me when he gets a few moments.

HOWEVER...the Director of the Crime Lab was up here before work this morning, so I picked his brain for a few, LOL. Why not?!

His take on the bloody socks and bloody sheets supposedly left in the home:

while our agency would have taken them, he said it's QUITE POSSIBLE that CCBI got all the trace evidence and samples they needed while on scene; therefore, no need to take them. He didn't see the leaving of the items behind as a huge blunder.

Guess it's different there than here, as we'd take it all; then again, maybe that unknown special machine they used was able to thoroughly capture the trace evidence good enough that they were confident in what they were doing, and felt comfortable leaving the items.

FWIW

 

[jake]

Mornin' RC:

Mr DNA Guru has been out of the office for the last 2 days, just got my email today. He said he'll get back to me when he gets a few moments.

HOWEVER...the Director of the Crime Lab was up here before work this morning, so I picked his brain for a few, LOL. Why not?!

His take on the bloody socks and bloody sheets supposedly left in the home:

while our agency would have taken them, he said it's QUITE POSSIBLE that CCBI got all the trace evidence and samples they needed while on scene; therefore, no need to take them. He didn't see the leaving of the items behind as a huge blunder.

Guess it's different there than here, as we'd take it all; then again, maybe that unknown special machine they used was able to thoroughly capture the trace evidence good enough that they were confident in what they were doing, and felt comfortable leaving the items.

FWIW

Thanks, Deputydawg, for your report. That's exactly what I've said all along. Those CCBI guys took everything they thought was valuable as evidence. Anything left behind they thought wasn't evidence.

--Jake

 

[raisincharlie]

Mornin' RC:

Mr DNA Guru has been out of the office for the last 2 days, just got my email today. He said he'll get back to me when he gets a few moments.

HOWEVER...the Director of the Crime Lab was up here before work this morning, so I picked his brain for a few, LOL. Why not?!

His take on the bloody socks and bloody sheets supposedly left in the home:

while our agency would have taken them, he said it's QUITE POSSIBLE that CCBI got all the trace evidence and samples they needed while on scene; therefore, no need to take them. He didn't see the leaving of the items behind as a huge blunder.

Guess it's different there than here, as we'd take it all; then again, maybe that unknown special machine they used was able to thoroughly capture the trace evidence good enough that they were confident in what they were doing, and felt comfortable leaving the items.

FWIW

Thanks DD - appreciate the input. I have to say I have a bit different take - as the sheets - my take is the sheets were under the bedspread and may have become bloody from the blood soaking through. The moles have never said a word about a bedspread - this is what I suspect was indeed collected by CCBI. The sheets may just be bloody - what does that say other than about the brutality.

As to the socks - the moles say the heater wasn't working in the upstairs area. It went down to 30 that night - I sorta suspect Cassidy was bundled up in jammies with little feet - the socks being under the jammies. Again other than the brutality - what would bloody socks worn this way really say ?

I suspect since CCBI had to wait on the equipment - it was probably something rather significant. Thank you very much for checking. - you're awesome!

Have a good day !

 

[strach304]

how interesting is that. i hadn't heard that. the brevard clan tried to say the killer used the jellybeans while (they said she) cared for the little girl that morning.

what board was that on?

CTV and it was JTF along with the Lion King dvd in the player. Myself I have children that could work a vcr at 18 mos. and at 2 1/2 will defintely help themselves to snacks. JTF is believed to be Jason's sister from Aberdeen so she was at the house to see this plus she doesn't have children so how would she know if Cassidy unsupervised did these things herself. It was also brought up that Meredith loved jelly beans.

 

[spring]

Thanks DD - appreciate the input. I have to say I have a bit different take - as the sheets - my take is the sheets were under the bedspread and may have become bloody from the blood soaking through. The moles have never said a word about a bedspread - this is what I suspect was indeed collected by CCBI. The sheets may just be bloody - what does that say other than about the brutality.

As to the socks - the moles say the heater wasn't working in the upstairs area. It went down to 30 that night - I sorta suspect Cassidy was bundled up in jammies with little feet - the socks being under the jammies. Again other than the brutality - what would bloody socks worn this way really say ?

I suspect since CCBI had to wait on the equipment - it was probably something rather significant. Thank you very much for checking. - you're awesome!

Have a good day !

it's really sounding like all the reasonable doubt that some were hoping for is getting blown out of the water. i have a feeling that when an arrest happens, the DA will have all their ducks in a row for a conviction!

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Thanks DD - appreciate the input. I have to say I have a bit different take - as the sheets - my take is the sheets were under the bedspread and may have become bloody from the blood soaking through. The moles have never said a word about a bedspread - this is what I suspect was indeed collected by CCBI. The sheets may just be bloody - what does that say other than about the brutality.
As to the socks - the moles say the heater wasn't working in the upstairs area. It went down to 30 that night - I sorta suspect Cassidy was bundled up in jammies with little feet - the socks being under the jammies. Again other than the brutality - what would bloody socks worn this way really say ?

I suspect since CCBI had to wait on the equipment - it was probably something rather significant. Thank you very much for checking. - you're awesome!

Have a good day !

RC,
I didn't remember who had mentioned the idea about not taking the sheets because the bedspread had maybe been taken, but I actually discussed that idea with him. And that's when he mentioned that they must have gathered all the trace and samples they thought necessary and left the item behind. Certainly take the bedspread but if they did their testing and were confident that the sheets didn't contribute any new evidence, they decided to leave them.

I'll PM you when I get further info from Mr DNA Guru....

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

it's really sounding like all the reasonable doubt that some were hoping for is getting blown out of the water. i have a feeling that when an arrest happens, the DA will have all their ducks in a row for a conviction!

I totally agree. If it takes a few more months for the DA to check, recheck and confirm details, etc., then they should take that time in order to arrest and hopefully convict the monster who did this. Justice for Michelle.

 

[raisincharlie]

it's really sounding like all the reasonable doubt that some were hoping for is getting blown out of the water. i have a feeling that when an arrest happens, the DA will have all their ducks in a row for a conviction!

Spring,

I think crime scenes have to be totally overwhelming for folks who have never seen one. In this case even Sheriff Harrison was taken aback by the scene per his comments.

This has to be a complicated scene when you think about it. The forensic evidence is going to be vital IMO. If the only forensics found at this scene relate to persons living in the house, that says something. If nothing from an outsider is found, it screams but is still arguable I think. I never rule out reasonable doubt until we hear what the evidence is. Any defense lawyer worth his salt is going to argue the tiniest thing in an effort to represent a client. Just going to have to wait...hope that CTV or maybe one of the local media outlets have live streaming when it does go to trial.

 

[raisincharlie]

RC,
I didn't remember who had mentioned the idea about not taking the sheets because the bedspread had maybe been taken, but I actually discussed that idea with him. And that's when he mentioned that they must have gathered all the trace and samples they thought necessary and left the item behind. Certainly take the bedspread but if they did their testing and were confident that the sheets didn't contribute any new evidence, they decided to leave them.

I'll PM you when I get further info from Mr DNA Guru....

I agree, if there was some value the items would have been taken. If evidence was found on those items - it doesn't mean it could not have been collected without taking the items. So I don't find much reason to get excited about these items nor do I find a reason to try and indicate incompetence on the part of the folks processing the scene. I think to make those assumptions is a fatal error.

 

[spring]

Spring,

I think crime scenes have to be totally overwhelming for folks who have never seen one. In this case even Sheriff Harrison was taken aback by the scene per his comments.

This has to be a complicated scene when you think about it. The forensic evidence is going to be vital IMO. If the only forensics found at this scene relate to persons living in the house, that says something. If nothing from an outsider is found, it screams but is still arguable I think. I never rule out reasonable doubt until we hear what the evidence is. Any defense lawyer worth his salt is going to argue the tiniest thing in an effort to represent a client. Just going to have to wait...hope that CTV or maybe one of the local media outlets have live streaming when it does go to trial.

but especially what they have screamed about so far, to me if the defense uses these particular tactics, as a juror, i would see right thru a defense attorney trying to free someone who is not innocent.