Michelle Young, pregnant mom, murdered Part 19

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  • #201
but especially what they have screamed about so far, to me if the defense uses these particular tactics, as a juror, i would see right thru a defense attorney trying to free someone who is not innocent.

Juries are peculiar entities aren't they ? I really like it when jurors do talk about what they experienced. I was surprised by some of the interviews I have seen how many of them do indeed see through bs stuff and just get to the point. I think lawyers on both sides must walk a very fine line to be successful in their efforts. I don't think there is any such thing as a slam dunk case. I believe this one is going to be very complicated.
 
  • #202
Does anyone know if (and why) Jake was banned from this forum?
 
  • #203
Does anyone know if (and why) Jake was banned from this forum?

How do you tell? I didn't see him on the member's list anymore, or maybe I just didn't look in the right place!
 
  • #204
RC,
I didn't remember who had mentioned the idea about not taking the sheets because the bedspread had maybe been taken, but I actually discussed that idea with him. And that's when he mentioned that they must have gathered all the trace and samples they thought necessary and left the item behind. Certainly take the bedspread but if they did their testing and were confident that the sheets didn't contribute any new evidence, they decided to leave them.

I'll PM you when I get further info from Mr DNA Guru....


Thanks DD, I suspect from insinuations made on this board about the sex angle they think the sheete may have contained semen other than Jason's and hope LE didn't test them. Thus maybe that's one of the items thrown away. Who would keep bloody sheets or socks?
 
  • #205
How do you tell? I didn't see him on the member's list anymore, or maybe I just didn't look in the right place!

I don't know either!
 
  • #206
Does anyone know if (and why) Jake was banned from this forum?

If so didn't he call someone here a moron or idiot yesterday? I didn't care for his rude comments to Sami either since she was just posting a media report for someone who asked for it.
 
  • #207
Thanks DD, I suspect from insinuations made on this board about the sex angle they think the sheete may have contained semen other than Jason's and hope LE didn't test them. Thus maybe that's one of the items thrown away. Who would keep bloody sheets or socks?

Hi Strach304,

Oh Poppycock (!) re not testing for semen! Now I'm the very first to admit I don't know all the ins and outs of forensics, which is why we rely on the investigators and our crime lab personnel....however! I do know they do presumptive tests for semen stains on scene, LOL. The JY team can "hope" 'til forever on that one :laugh:

I don't know what they've been trying to spin or plant re the sex angle/condoms, etc. I've never seen any logical theory on that, backed up by any type of known facts. Patiently waiting, but also not holding my breath :)
 
  • #208
How do you tell? I didn't see him on the member's list anymore, or maybe I just didn't look in the right place!

Go to the opening page (forums). Near the bottom of the page you will see
View Forum Leaders (above everyone viewing today). Click onto VFL & scroll down to Locked list.
 
  • #209
I know DD, I just like to point out the obvious motives for their madness. Don't forget they have no idea how a crime scene and evidence gathering is done either.
 
  • #210
Go to the opening page (forums). Near the bottom of the page you will see
View Forum Leaders (above everyone viewing today). Click onto VFL & scroll down to Locked list.

Thanks jilly!!! I did just what you said and there he was.

Thanks again for your help!
 
  • #211
I know DD, I just like to point out the obvious motives for their madness. Don't forget they have no idea how a crime scene and evidence gathering is done either.

It's actually good to reiterate periodically, in case new eyes are viewing ;)
Sometimes it's easy to get off on tangents that take away from the big picture, ya know?! ;)
 
  • #212
It's actually good to reiterate periodically, in case new eyes are viewing ;)
Sometimes it's easy to get off on tangents that take away from the big picture, ya know?! ;)


:eek: who would do such a thing! a past poster said that a nervous killer would create a smoke screen. sounds possible to me!
 
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Go to the opening page (forums). Near the bottom of the page you will see
View Forum Leaders (above everyone viewing today). Click onto VFL & scroll down to Locked list.


Does that mean he's on a time-out, or is he banned?
 
  • #214
:eek: who would do such a thing! a past poster said that a nervous killer would create a smoke screen. sounds possible to me!

Hmmm, I vividly recall that comment as well :cool:

It's just so tiring trying to keep up...was it the jealous sister and her BF who stole jewelry? Or now a rapist or lover who took a box of condoms from the jewelry drawers on his way out? :waitasec: And nothing official from LE, the media, the DA or JY's attorney that would give us any facts to consider either of those as serious considerations.

Justice for Michelle. I still have faith....
 
  • #215
Thanks jilly!!! I did just what you said and there he was.

Thanks again for your help!

I am assuming locked means banned...so now if he is still banned from CTV and now from here, where will he go?
 
  • #216
:eek: who would do such a thing! a past poster said that a nervous killer would create a smoke screen. sounds possible to me!

Just passing thru, but I think this quote from Steve Huff really applies here:


"Husbands who kill their wives either make them disappear, make it look like robbery, or sometimes try to make the slaying look like a sex crime — and the signal that the killer wasn’t after anything but death is often that there wasn’t any sex after all". Steve Huff

That was plum scary looking at the locked list, as I've never seen it before. There are a couple of others there I could have sworn were here yesterday! :eek: Scandi
 
  • #217
Does anyone know if (and why) Jake was banned from this forum?

We don't give out that information. He'll be back in 10 days.

STAY ON TOPIC!
 
  • #218
If so didn't he call someone here a moron or idiot yesterday? I didn't care for his rude comments to Sami either since she was just posting a media report for someone who asked for it.

Comments like that to me don't worry me, lol.......I'm old, or young, enough to be Spencer's daughter :) A bit of a silly comment from Jake actually because my post shows how much of a staunch supporter of Jason that Spencer is. Both People and the N&O articles show that Spencer hasn't 'waivered' in his support for Jason.

As for the sheets, I doubt whether Jake knows if Michelle was even IN bed when the attack began. The 'blood in the bed' may have been spatter or Michelle may have fallen onto the bed at one stage after being hit. She may have tried to crawl across the bed or was even thrown onto the bed at one stage only to be dragged off again.

No one knows what time the attack began, how close to her being out of bed, up and walking around. She may have just come out of the ensuite (bathroom in MBR) after having a shower.

So questions, again ones that Jason could answer, can be asked in this area too. If Michelle's hair was wet in areas, other than blood...did she normally blow dry her hair after a shower?

If her hair was wet and it wasn't all because of blood and Michelle always blow dried her hair after a shower, then it is possible she didn't get a chance to 'complete' her shower before bed.

My hair is the same length as Michelle's, probably longer since mine reaches past my butt :) , and I always braid it before bed because it's a PITA to try and brush it in the morning. Did Michelle always braid her hair before bed?

Too many unanswered questions about day to day life.

Sami
 
  • #219
it's really sounding like all the reasonable doubt that some were hoping for is getting blown out of the water. i have a feeling that when an arrest happens, the DA will have all their ducks in a row for a conviction!
I sure hope so--- keep thinking that is what is going on- Jake is throwing out nothing more than STUFF imo, to hope that there is reasonable doubt...which I hope and pray when they are done, and an arrest is made, it os OVER - the reasonable doubt wiill be nothing more than any "defense attorney" would throw out in the wind----
 
  • #220
We don't give out that information. He'll be back in 10 days.

STAY ON TOPIC!

no--no--no---
can you imagine what he can come up with in ten days !!!

sorry Jeana.. :blowkiss: .....back to topic-- arrrest HAS to be coming soon...doesnt it? I dont believe imo the latest "stuff" will have much baring-
 
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