Michelle Young, pregnant mom, murdered Part 19

[athy]

good question unless we're to believe that the lawyer is showing them all the warrent inventories.

 

[j2mirish]

To summarize:

-- nothing regarding the SA kit not being done is a terrible blunder; ME's should have their own policy about when they are done and when they aren't. And supposing the ME's office didn't have a policy that stated they'll do a SA exam on 100% of all homicide females, then the LE agency can/should request it. Then at time of autopsy, will be discussed. Decision can be changed at that time.

-- Decision to not collect alleged bloody sheets and socks, same as I covered in my post a few days ago after talking to the Director of the Crime Lab. The items in questions could have had samples pulled, collected and sent through the chain of custody - leaving the sheet and socks behind. Again, no big red flag there. (Again, many agencies take the entire item; but the crime lab techs and scientists say it's not necessary.)

The above are reassuring to those of us who hope a case will be ready for presentation, but not mindboggling.

The "hot" news as someone said - ya know the saying "it's a small world?" Interesting how forensic scientists that currently live and work in Texas, used to live and work in a certain part of North Carolina - and are very familiar with the policies/procedures/inner workings of certain agencies/bureaus in NC.

thanks dd- even though I am not in the pm circle- this helps seeing what ya all are talking about -

 

[j2mirish]

Hi Jilly, no problem.

It was very reassuring to hear what he had to say :clap:

And although we're anxious for an arrest now, I got to read their 2006 summary report that identified their key case hits (whether by DNA, fingerprints, etc.). Nice to see the criminologists who took such pride in seeing their cases that were 3-7 years and older (one was a 1981 murder), finally solved due to their evidence. I have never waivered on the conviction of the LE officers who worked this murder...and it's nice to see how excited the criminologists are when they finally get those hits they're wanting to find. Mr. DNA Guru is close to cracking a 20 year old murder, and he's just so excited at the prospect of being able to give the news to the LE agency, so that the family will know more of the story. I always enjoy visiting the lab - it's always interesting and educational. They keep getting new equipment, etc. and are more than happy to show what they can do.

I know we all hope and pray for a swift resolution and justice for Michelle.

too cool dd- it must be a great job to be able to be involved and work with the types of folks you do- and be one of them yourself- kudos to you

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

good question unless we're to believe that the lawyer is showing them all the warrent inventories.

IIRC (but not 100% sure), no one saw them listed on any public search warrants returned; then unless Jason really is talking, against his atty's advice, no family member or friend should know that condoms were there, and now are missing. Hmmm, kinda like jewelry

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

thanks dd- even though I am not in the pm circle- this helps seeing what ya all are talking about -

YGPM!

 

[Mama-cita]

Awwww, now I feel like the loser! I haven't been posting much, I have had to keep holding my tongue when a certain "fisherman" comes around with bait, I guess that is why the need for all the pm's, so he can't read here and report back to Camp Jaybird. Boy but it has been nice and peaceful around for the last few days. In any case if anyone wants to share info with me, I'll send you a virtual A&W rootbeer float, perfect for those hot nights like tonight!

 

[strach304]

DD, I would think this case would be very interesting to a forensic expert because there is a lot of evidence in this particular case when compared to some others. Tell him thank you and we really appreciate his input. Also thank you for making contact and going that extra mile. Tell your boss I said to give you a promotion.

As for the warrant listing the condoms my guess is there's quite a bit that hasn't been made public. Someone posted that Jason or his lawyer would have gotten a list of what LE took from the house. From the meager list we saw I can't believe that's all they took.

athy, I'll tell you anything you wanna know but it probably isn't the info you want. :angel:

 

[The Saint]

At least here where I work? Ummm, you could probably get pretty much anything you wanted, LOL.


I'd still like to know what spin the JY team was trying to spin with the subject of confiscated condoms. Was it ever stated how the poster became aware of condoms being taken? :waitasec: I was under the impression that these weren't listed on the s/w inventory...and if Jason's not talking to even family (?), then how would a friend become aware of such an item being taken?

could it be that michelle discovered the package of condoms and the fight escalated? what about jay's closet being a mess --- was michelle going through all of the pockets of his pants after she found the condoms?

i guess jay can't say they belonged to his mom like other things confiscated that night from the SUV.

maybe that's what made him mad, that the deputies rudely took his condoms and embarassed him in front of his kinfolk. and geez, you know he needed them. he's Booty Boy afterall...

 

[The Saint]

for those getting pm's from a certain poster asking you not to post things...i'm wondering if that poster doesn't have firsthand knowledge of the killer reading here

and the killer would also have to be in close proximity to hurt the one who the poster doesn't want you talking about :furious:

i hope LE has their eyes on the person they believe to be the perp!

i do believe the killer is a danger to Cassidy (and the rest of society).

but that PM that The One Who Loves Silence of the Lambs sent people
was manipulation, plain and simple. any way that they find to shut people up, they'll do it.

jay is a coward, he beat a petite woman and unborn baby to death.
people are going to continue talking about it whether he likes it or not.

 

[Mama-cita]

maybe that's what made him mad, that the deputies rudely took his condoms and embarassed him in front of his kinfolk. and geez, you know he needed them. he's Booty Boy afterall...

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
ROFL after that one. Although I still can't fathom him being booty boy, maybe he's a real smooth talker cuz he ain't nothin' to look at IMO...
(he's like a cross between howdy doody and conan o'brien! and I apologize to both howdy doody and conan o'brien for the comparison...)

 

[The Saint]

jason and his condoms - hmmm.
with whom, when and where was he going to use them?

was this enough to start the final, fatal fight that night if michelle had found them?

 

[The Saint]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
ROFL after that one. Although I still can't fathom him being booty boy, maybe he's a real smooth talker cuz he ain't nothin' to look at IMO...
(he's like a cross between howdy doody and conan o'brien! and I apologize to both howdy doody and conan o'brien for the comparison...)

his success with bedding multiple partners ---
smooth talk or the effect of alcohol?

didn't MM say that she only slept with him after he came to her house and they drank too much wine?

 

[Mama-cita]

his success with bedding multiple partners ---
smooth talk or the effect of alcohol?

didn't MM say that she only slept with him after he came to her house and they drank too much wine?

Maybe a little of both, but I am sure alcohol did play a role most definitely...
There was enough there for MM to have almost daily contact with him for several months, so obviously he knows what to say to women who are vulnerable, then when you throw booze into the mix, well that might be all a vulnerable woman needs to throw her over the top, so to speak...

 

[spring]

i do believe the killer is a danger to Cassidy (and the rest of society).

but that PM that The One Who Loves Silence of the Lambs sent people
was manipulation, plain and simple. any way that they find to shut people up, they'll do it.

jay is a coward, he beat a petite woman and unborn baby to death.
people are going to continue talking about it whether he likes it or not.

yep, i believe that was an attempt to quiet down that there is a voice that has been heard thru all this. if that is not known, maybe the people of NC won't hear about it, and it won't be brought out at trial and a guilty man will be set free.

 

[spring]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
ROFL after that one. Although I still can't fathom him being booty boy, maybe he's a real smooth talker cuz he ain't nothin' to look at IMO...
(he's like a cross between howdy doody and conan o'brien! and I apologize to both howdy doody and conan o'brien for the comparison...)

going to agree! we have debated that perhaps that's why MM would only admit the one time!

 

[The Saint]

yep, i believe that was an attempt to quiet down that there is a voice that has been heard thru all this. if that is not known, maybe the people of NC won't hear about it, and it won't be brought out at trial and a guilty man will be set free.

jay tried to silence michelle by killing her but she'll speak from the grave.
her words are written in the therapist's notes. her daughter's words are recorded on the 911 call.

the jury will have no doubt as to who killed michelle.

 

[Mama-cita]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:




going to agree! we have debated that perhaps that's why MM would only admit the one time!

Well, you can judge for yourself:
Does this:
http://instapunk.com/images/howdy-doody.jpg
PLUS this:
http://helsinki.usembassy.gov/images/conan3.jpg
EQUAL this?

http://wral.com/news/local/image/1066008/

I do see an uncanny resemblance. Although, if you threw Alfred E. Neuman into the blend, now that just might complete it:
http://www.nofear.org/Archives/Media/2003/07/alfred_neuman.jpg

Of course this is all JMO! And LOL at MM only ADMITTING to one time, with beer (or wine) goggles!

 

[spring]

Well, you can judge for yourself:
Does this:
http://instapunk.com/images/howdy-doody.jpg
PLUS this:
http://helsinki.usembassy.gov/images/conan3.jpg
EQUAL this?

http://wral.com/news/local/image/1066008/

I do see an uncanny resemblance. Although, if you threw Alfred E. Neuman into the blend, now that just might complete it:
http://www.nofear.org/Archives/Media/2003/07/alfred_neuman.jpg

Of course this is all JMO! And LOL at MM only ADMITTING to one time, with beer (or wine) goggles!

by george, i think you have it!! lol

 

[jilly]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:




going to agree! we have debated that perhaps that's why MM would only admit the one time!

Gives a whole new meaning to 'What was I thinking??!!"

Do you think they had sex more than once? I'm not so sure.....I mean, at the very least, how could she live with the fact that she had sex with her best friend's husband?

 

[jilly]

I do see an uncanny resemblance. Although, if you threw Alfred E. Neuman into the blend, now that just might complete it:
http://www.nofear.org/Archives/Media/2003/07/alfred_neuman.jpg

Yikes! What's with this link? Kinda scared me!