Michelle Young: Pregnant Mom, NC. part 7

[Samiya]

Now I am beginning to doubt myself. Another reporter talked before Ed and he mentioned about Brevard and Jason being there with his parents when they gave him the news.

Ocean

Don't doubt yourself Ocean ......stepdaddy met him up the garden path remember so he was 'there' when they gave him the news (just arrived apparently).

ETC "stepdaddy"

 

[panthera]

Ocean,

I don't doubt you - but now this thing has spun out to JY's parents are now saying he was in Brevard when MY was killed. I recall very early on in this case Sheriff Harrison commented that family alibi's are rarely reliable and thought it was an odd thing to say but it has never left my mind. Then we have Fussell saying JY told him at MY's funeral that JY went to VA on business. Something is way out of kilter here and I just have a hard time with some guy who has zero to do with this case going on TV and repeating what supposedly police told him when the police are saying zero zip nada - something is not right IMO.

Thank you for the condensed version of what I missed today. I agree something's not adding up :waitasec:

 

[scandi]

That sure was pretty short!

There are no other suspects.

He has been placed at the parents home at the time of the discovery of the body, AND NOT NECESSARILY AT THE TIME OF HER DEATH.

Can't place him at his home at the time of her death, he is not a suspect but rather is a POI. He would have had to been at his home at a pointed time to be named a suspect.

NEW TO ME:

LE found his will and insurance documents which were highly questionable, but not enough to nail him. And a brief comment that he as a reporter was not sure if this had something to do with MM.

Scandi

 

[Samiya]

Ocean,

Something is way out of kilter here and I just have a hard time with some guy who has zero to do with this case going on TV and repeating what supposedly police told him when the police are saying zero zip nada - something is not right IMO.

Does anyone know if the guy says 'when' he spoke to LE or LE spoke to him?

 

[raisincharlie]

That sure was pretty short!

There are no other suspects.

He has been placed at the parents home at the time of the discovery of the body, AND NOT NECESSARILY AT THE TIME OF HER DEATH.

Can't place him at his home at the time of her death, he is not a suspect but rather is a POI. He would have had to been at his home at a pointed time to be named a suspect.

NEW TO ME:

LE found his will and insurance documents which were highly questionable, but not enough to nail him. And a brief comment that he as a reporter was not sure if this had something to do with MM.

Scandi

Thanks luv - will have an extra egg nog in toast to you ! You have cleared up much. You rock sweetie !

 

[scandi]

And other notes:

What this told me is his parents have not given him an alibi of his being at their house at the time of her death, but they can not place him at his own residence at the pointed time of her death either. This qualifies him as a POI and not a suspect at this time.

Also the will and insurance papers blurb came righ after he mentioned they couldn't place him at his own house at the pointed time of death, so by inferrance I assumed those papers were discovered at the home, but the AM
W did not specificly say that.

They got a lot of evidence from his home, taking things out on a regular basis over the time period of a week. Scandi

 

[oceanblueeyes]

That sure was pretty short!

There are no other suspects.

He has been placed at the parents home at the time of the discovery of the body, AND NOT NECESSARILY AT THE TIME OF HER DEATH.

Can't place him at his home at the time of her death, he is not a suspect but rather is a POI. He would have had to been at his home at a pointed time to be named a suspect.

NEW TO ME:

LE found his will and insurance documents which were highly questionable, but not enough to nail him. And a brief comment that he as a reporter was not sure if this had something to do with MM.

Scandi

Well at least I got most of it right. lol I thought Ed said that they had not named him a suspect OR a point of interest. I thought that made sense as LE has not come out and said he is either one.

But you say that he is a POI. Thanks for clearing that up.

But it seems that his alibi is checking out if they cant place him close to the home. Maybe he hired a hit man.

IMO

Ocean

 

[Samiya]

And other notes:

What this told me is his parents have not given him an alibi of his being at their house at the time of her death, but they can not place him at his own residence at the pointed time of her death either. This qualifies him as a POI and not a suspect at this time.

Also the will and insurance papers blurb came righ after he mentioned they couldn't place him at his own house at the pointed time of death, so by inferrance I assumed those papers were discovered at the home, but the AM
W did not specificly say that.

They got a lot of evidence from his home, taking things out on a regular basis over the time period of a week. Scandi

Thanks Scandi, What would we do without you :clap:

I was hoping for something exciting and there is a little bit (what in his will would be highly questionable? Maybe it was recently changed?)

No other suspects...(and no other POI's mentioned either).

Sounds like they've got the TOD nailed down further.

IMO...Just because they can't put him there doesn't mean he wasn't there. They just haven't been able to find something to suggest he was there at this time.....still waiting on some forensics perhaps?

Sami

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Ocean,

I don't doubt you - but now this thing has spun out to JY's parents are now saying he was in Brevard when MY was killed. I recall very early on in this case Sheriff Harrison commented that family alibi's are rarely reliable and thought it was an odd thing to say but it has never left my mind. Then we have Fussell saying JY told him at MY's funeral that JY went to VA on business. Something is way out of kilter here and I just have a hard time with some guy who has zero to do with this case going on TV and repeating what supposedly police told him when the police are saying zero zip nada - something is not right IMO.

I certainly didnt hear that on CC. All I heard on the Brevard connection was the same old same old. He was there when notified of her death.

IMO

Ocean

 

[panthera]

That sure was pretty short!

There are no other suspects.

He has been placed at the parents home at the time of the discovery of the body, AND NOT NECESSARILY AT THE TIME OF HER DEATH.

Can't place him at his home at the time of her death, he is not a suspect but rather is a POI. He would have had to been at his home at a pointed time to be named a suspect.

NEW TO ME:

LE found his will and insurance documents which were highly questionable, but not enough to nail him. And a brief comment that he as a reporter was not sure if this had something to do with MM.

Scandi

Great work and thanks so much, Scandi!
I surmised as much or he would've been named a suspect already. Hope LE uncovers some "evidence" and he doesn't get away with this murder (assuming he committed it, of course!).

 

[scandi]

Now I am beginning to doubt myself. Another reporter talked before Ed and he mentioned about Brevard and Jason being there with his parents when they gave him the news.

Ocean

They must have edited that black reporters comments as I heard him say nothing about this.

Ed from AMW definately said because they couldn't place him at his home at the pointed time of her death he was not a suspect but rather a POI.

Ed chooses his words very carefully I noticed. Using words like pointed and the expression not necessarily as examples, adds a little depth to what he is saying.

 

[raisincharlie]

Thanks Scandi, What would we do without you :clap:

I was hoping for something exciting and there is a little bit (what in his will would be highly questionable? Maybe it was recently changed?)

No other suspects...(and no other POI's mentioned either).

Sounds like they've got the TOD nailed down further.

IMO...Just because they can't put him there doesn't mean he wasn't there. They just haven't been able to find something to suggest he was there at this time.....still waiting on some forensics perhaps?

Sami

Sami,

I agree, LE cannot say with any certainty that JY was in his home at time X when MY was murdered, however as you say that doesn't mean he wasn't there or that LE is thinking he wasn't there. But this does rule out the rumor that a delivery person saw something if there are no other susects or POIs. And yes I would also agree the TOD is known to LE and it is more specific than 12 to 6 am. JMO


Scandi - so excellent:clap:
Ocean - you don't need a hearing aid

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Thanks Scandi, What would we do without you :clap:

I was hoping for something exciting and there is a little bit (what in his will would be highly questionable? Maybe it was recently changed?)

No other suspects...(and no other POI's mentioned either).

Sounds like they've got the TOD nailed down further.

IMO...Just because they can't put him there doesn't mean he wasn't there. They just haven't been able to find something to suggest he was there at this time.....still waiting on some forensics perhaps?

Sami

I dont know Sami. If they cannot place him there then that means they have validated his alibi so his forensics aren't going to be found there imo. Now he may have hired a hit man to do this and made it look messy to throw that off. I think it is highly significant that LE cant place him in the home.

Happy Holidays!

Ocean

 

[scandi]

So there is nothing new about Brevard, right, except he does not have an alibi from his parents that he was at their home in Brevard at the time Michelle was murdered. That is a very good thing!

We had already heard from the 'insider' that Jason was not informed of the death while driving to their home in Bravard, and by a link that he was informed of this in his parents driveway as he arrived at their house. So that must be true.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Sami,

I agree, LE cannot say with any certainty that JY was in his home at time X when MY was murdered, however as you say that doesn't mean he wasn't there or that LE is thinking he wasn't there. But this does rule out the rumor that a delivery person saw something if there are no other susects or POIs. And yes I would also agree the TOD is known to LE and it is more specific than 12 to 6 am. JMO


Scandi - so excellent:clap:
Ocean - you don't need a hearing aid

LOL well I did think he said he wasnt a suspect or a POI and Scandi says Ed did say he is a POI. So maybe I need to just pay attention to those little words like "or and is" lol

IMO

Ocean

 

[raisincharlie]

I certainly didnt hear that on CC. All I heard on the Brevard connection was the same old same old. He was there when notified of her death.

IMO

Ocean

Ocean,

I know what you said you heard but there is another location that has another interpretation all together which is why I asked Scandi if she could watch for us and let us know. As I recall you have said you can no longer see this place - is that still true ? That is where it is being said he was at his parents home the night MY was murdered and it must be a hitman or an unknown because JY's alibi checks out. Just repeating how what you posted at one location was rapidly evolving into something else at another location.

Hope you understand - I did not doubt you - I know better. What I questioned I asked you directly and you responded - that was good enough for me.:blowkiss:

ETA - Ed may be a really good guy but I still don't understand why he would be repeating what police have said to him (if they did) so that JY's lawyer could be privy to that information. IMO that is not anyway to keep a source happy.

 

[scandi]

I dont know Sami. If they cannot place him there then that means they have validated his alibi so his forensics aren't going to be found there imo. Now he may have hired a hit man to do this and made it look messy to throw that off. I think it is highly significant that LE cant place him in the home.

Happy Holidays!

Ocean

But Ocean my dear, isn't it joyous news that his parents have not been able to alibi him for the time when she was actually murdered?

I didn't hear that he has an alibi for the time she was killed unless you have heard of someone other than his parents. I have heard no rumors about this.

Fussell spoke too quickly after the murder to have planned his statements well for future disecting, so I think he spoke the basic truth. I think LE learned a lot from Fussell.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

They must have edited that black reporters comments as I heard him say nothing about this.

Ed from AMW definitely said because they couldn't place him at his home at the pointed time of her death he was not a suspect but rather a POI.

Ed chooses his words very carefully I noticed. Using words like pointed and the expression not necessarily as examples, adds a little depth to what he is saying.

I find Ed very credible. He has been with AMW for quite awhile and always has inside sources on many cases.

I dont think they are going to find a thing in the home forensically that ties JY to this crime. I think they have checked his alibi and it is holding true.

Do you think he may have hired a hit man?

IMO

Ocean

 

[scandi]

I haven't heard anything that they have validated an alibi for Jason at the exact time of Michelle's death, only an alibi for the time she was discovered which really means nothing, right?

So I think that's what Charlie is saying, that he might have been at the home when Michelle was killed, they just haven't found proof of that yet, or they are maybe not letting that out.

I did find it telling what he said about the will and ins papers {BTW I don't think they even mentioned that at CTV } being HIGHLY questionable but not enough to NAIL him on.

I like Ed too. Doesn't say much but it's all packed into the simplest and most specific words that tell the story. You can't easily listen to him and catch all the meaning of what he is saying Ocean, and really need a tape or transcript to see what he means with each word and where it is placed! He's a good one, Charlie Brown. That's why he's with AMW.

Hey, that was a fun job! I just threw my notes away and tried to write down every word, or close to it, that he said. Whew

 

[oceanblueeyes]

But Ocean my dear, isn't it joyous news that his parents have not been able to alibi him for the time when she was actually murdered?

I didn't hear that he has an alibi for the time she was killed unless you have heard of someone other than his parents. I have heard no rumors about this.

Fussell spoke too quickly after the murder to have planned his statements well for future dissecting, so I think he spoke the basic truth. I think LE learned a lot from Fussell.

Well I think LE know all about his alibi..they no doubt have interviewed many of his friends that he told what he did and where he went. Also LE doesn't even need them to trace down his whereabouts from start to finish. They trace other people all the time without any help from the POI.

I dont think the parents statements are very relevant Scandi. Now if they tried to give him a false alibi that wasn't lining up that would be huge. I am sure they are truthful when Jason got to their home. But the most significant thing to me is that LE cannot put Jason in that home at the time of her murder. This means to me that the ME has given them a TOD time line and LE has had plenty of time to place him there or even close to there but cant.

If they have retraced his steps and LE is very competent in doing that then that IS his alibi. If the investigation shows him leaving at a certain time and not returning to Raleigh then I am not sure this case will ever be solved.

IMO

Ocean