Michelle Young: Pregnant Mom, NC. part 8

[raisincharlie]

yeah, i would guess that the wording has to be this way, otherwise it would appear/seem like LE is after one person alone, without a full investigation....

gosh, wouldn't it be wild though, if some old friend of JY's IS in on this?...i don't think that's the case though...like i said, i'll be stunned if it is...ya know, like some old friend of JY's back in Brevard.......

heck, LE will find out pretty quickly who all JY's talked to in the last few months, on a regular basis.....

I think if someone else was involved - they would both be in jail with one or the other begging to turn State's witness to save their backside. JMO.

 

[close_enough]

In the matter of: Gray Dell Latitude model D620

Submitted by Investigator B.T. David of the Wake County Sheriff’s Office Person Crimes Unit:

The computer was seized after a search of a 2004 Ford Explorer registered to Jason Young, the victim’s husband. Jason had driven the vehicle from 5108 Birchleaf Drive, Raleigh to Virginia. He left on November 2, 2006 and returned to Raleigh on November 3, 2006 in the Ford Explorer after being notified of his wife’s death. The vehicle contains papers identifying Jason Young as the owner of the vehicle.

The Wake County Sheriff’s Office seized the Ford Explorer shortly after Jason Young returned to Raleigh on November 3, 2006. Attempts have been made to have Jason Young assist in this investigation. He has refused to cooperate with the Wake County Sheriff’s Office.

Access to the computer’s hard drive will be used for the purpose stated above to include but not limited to:

• Obtaining financial records
• Correspondence with insurance companies
• Information to corroborate with witness’ statements
• To locate evidence to be compared with evidence already collected

Based on this affiant’s training and experience, it is believed the preceding facts establish probable cause to believe that the above-described items be located within the Dell Latitude model D620 laptop… will aid in the investigation and identifications of the possible participants in the crime of Homicide N.C.G.S. 14-17, occurring at 5108 Birchleaf Drive, in Raleigh, NC.

For these reasons, this affiant respectfully requests this warrant.

http://rdu.news14.com/content/headlines/?ArID=97253&SecID=2

posted this here so i won't have to keep flipping back to the other thread to read....

i'm wondering if there's a "witness" out there that's from an insurance company???...someone that spoke with LE about JY questioning them regarding life insurance at some point, fairly recently....

i'm really thinking that JY & MY were having financial troubles....still wonder about the gambling rumor too....

 

[close_enough]

I think if someone else was involved - they would both be in jail with one or the other begging to turn State's witness to save their backside. JMO.

exactly....i think you're right....

 

[raisincharlie]

i'm wondering if there's a "witness" out there that's from an insurance company???...someone that spoke with LE about JY questioning them regarding life insurance at some point, fairly recently....

i'm really thinking that JY & MY were having financial troubles....still wonder about the gambling rumor too....

As I recall, LE has said they had conducted 100 interviews - someone told LE something about insurance unless there were attempted changes found on the Compaq computer siezed from the home. One thing seems certain - LE is zeroing in on insurance versus the wills.

One thing I am wondering about - this latest warrant id's the SUV as a 2004 Explorer - either this is a typo or the SUV from the accident in May may not have been a 2004 Mitsubishi - if damaged the insurance would have paid an equivalent this is true, but why would JY replace it with a 2004 Ford? Maybe couldn't afford a new one after buying the house in early May ? The other thing of note about that SUV - around the rear tag holder is the name Madison Jaguar - this is where MY's Dad is the GM.

 

[raisincharlie]

Close


Thinking more on the insurance, what if MY's insurance was bumped up after she learned she was pregnant in 2006 but before the wreck, then there is another bump up in her insurance before her murder ? Wouldn't that look really odd ? I can understand upon becoming pregnant that both parents might want to increase insurance but only one and twice within a few months ? Should catch someone's attention I would think. Not saying it happened but it is possible. JMO

 

[close_enough]

As I recall, LE has said they had conducted 100 interviews - someone told LE something about insurance unless there were attempted changes found on the Compaq computer siezed from the home. One thing seems certain - LE is zeroing in on insurance versus the wills.

One thing I am wondering about - this latest warrant id's the SUV as a 2004 Explorer - either this is a typo or the SUV from the accident in May may not have been a 2004 Mitsubishi - if damaged the insurance would have paid an equivalent this is true, but why would JY replace it with a 2004 Ford? Maybe couldn't afford a new one after buying the house in early May ? The other thing of note about that SUV - around the rear tag holder is the name Madison Jaguar - this is where MY's Dad is the GM.

yeah, actually using the word "insurance" just kinda strikes me odd...they ARE zeroing in on insurance, obviously, imo....

i think it's very possible they couldn't afford a brand new vehicle & knew they could get a good deal with the insurance money through Michelle's father on a used Explorer...

something 'hit the fan' just prior to Michelle's death...probably just days prior... she found out about something...or something had been going on & she was finally fed up w/it.....

 

[close_enough]

Close


Thinking more on the insurance, what if MY's insurance was bumped up after she learned she was pregnant in 2006 but before the wreck, then there is another bump up in her insurance before her murder ? Wouldn't that look really odd ? I can understand upon becoming pregnant that both parents might want to increase insurance but only one and twice within a few months ? Should catch someone's attention I would think. Not saying it happened but it is possible. JMO

good thinking....no doubt that would catch someone's attention...i still think the car 'accident' was more than just an accident...heck, there's been folks that killed a spouse, then turned the gun on themselves 'for show'....it's not completely unheard of, that's for sure...

the insurance thing is not going to look good for JY...i have a feeling whatever it is, it's going to look real suspicious for him....he's quizzed someone about the insurance or something, not long before Michelle's death...

 

[raisincharlie]

yeah, actually using the word "insurance" just kinda strikes me odd...they ARE zeroing in on insurance, obviously, imo....

i think it's very possible they couldn't afford a brand new vehicle & knew they could get a good deal with the insurance money through Michelle's father on a used Explorer...

something 'hit the fan' just prior to Michelle's death...probably just days prior... she found out about something...or something had been going on & she was finally fed up w/it.....

I think something hit the fan a while back - I don't think MY was oblivious to it. Thinking on it - she could have had a major melt down recently if she found out JY was having a relationship with a sorority sister, some one who was friends to both of them for a very long time! She could have confronted him and told him to pack off. That would miff anyone.

 

[close_enough]

I think something hit the fan a while back - I don't think MY was oblivious to it. Thinking on it - she could have had a major melt down recently if she found out JY was having a relationship with a sorority sister, some one who was friends to both of them for a very long time! She could have confronted him and told him to pack off. That would miff anyone.

yes, it would for sure...OR she was fed up with his gambling...i KNOW that's only rumor, but he could have been gambling for awhile, & it took it's toll with a huge loss...betting on football games & the such through a bookie....

but....you're probably right...finding out about a girlfriend would probably be 'the last straw'....

ok, i have two boys here waiting on me to get ready to leave for 75 cent bowling, lol.....got to run

 

[strach304]

Just wanted to remind everyone that this isn't the first time a plural has been indicated by LE, remember the Greta interview where the sheriff stated person and corrected it to persons responsible?

Also recall Mr. Peterson being put on the stand to testify that Scott had not told him he was fishing when he spoke with him that day. I'm just thinking of the similarities here with Jason and his parents because I don't think LE will get that info from them voluntarily.

 

[otto]

I'm thinking there is something LE doesn't want out in the public eye right now re: that warrant on the lap top that came back on the 22nd of
Dec. A full week has gone by and it isn't up like the others were. That says a lot to me.

Charlie, do you remember when they put those other warrants on line and how many days it had been since they had come back. That might give us a reference point.

Otto, I have always had a bit of a curiosity about JY's step father. He was so crusty from the get go, much more so than the average father a couple of days into a childs legal dilema. Wonder what he did in life, military, lawyer? I wonder if he liked JY and have often wondered realizing the crime his son is a POI in, how does he deal with JY. Is he mean to him, or arrogant around him? He sounds like an ultra conservative and that might not bode well living with a man the police favor as the one who splattered his wifes blood and brains over their bed and left his own child to wander aimlessly around her for hours.
QUOTE]

Hey Scandi, I wrote you a really long, detailed response to this but when I hit the post button, the thread was closed and the response disappeared. We're off snowboarding for the afternoon, but I think it's an interesting topic and will repost later when we're back. Gotta enjoy that winter wonderland while it's here!

 

[packerdog]

I think something hit the fan a while back - I don't think MY was oblivious to it. Thinking on it - she could have had a major melt down recently if she found out JY was having a relationship with a sorority sister, some one who was friends to both of them for a very long time! She could have confronted him and told him to pack off. That would miff anyone.

I wonder how recent before the murder MM had contact with MY. Did MM call MY often and act like everything was normal? Did MM distance herself from MY in the last 3 months?

 

[scandi]

I think something hit the fan a while back - I don't think MY was oblivious to it. Thinking on it - she could have had a major melt down recently if she found out JY was having a relationship with a sorority sister, some one who was friends to both of them for a very long time! She could have confronted him and told him to pack off. That would miff anyone.

And Charlie, that is exactly why I believe his friend 'F' {? too early for me - just woke up!} when he said JY left the house with several suitcases that night. She had told him to get out and it was his first attempt to remove his things from the house.

Seems to fit for me!

 

[strach304]

I wonder how recent before the murder MM had contact with MY. Did MM call MY often and act like everything was normal? Did MM distance herself from MY in the last 3 months?

Interesting thoughts. Michelle sure surrounded herself with some real winners.

 

[raisincharlie]

And Charlie, that is exactly why I believe his friend 'F' {? too early for me - just woke up!} when he said JY left the house with several suitcases that night. She had told him to get out and it was his first attempt to remove his things from the house.

Seems to fit for me!

Scandi,

It would be interesting to see an inventory list of what was in the SUV wouldn't it? One has to wonder about this issue of how much luggage he took with him. Assuming he had more than what was necessary for an overnight in VA and at the folks house:

Would he unpack the SUV in Brevard ?

How would he explain all the excess luggage to his folks?

While preparing to come back to Raleigh - did his family see the excess luggage in the SUV, did they even wonder about it?

Upon arriving in Raleigh, the police would now have possesion of all this luggage-did this alert police, or make them think he was preparing to run ?

Lots more questions could be raised by the luggage if it is true there was a significant amount. Maybe , if JY planned this all out, the luggage, which we now know included a laptop, not being unloaded at his folks house is the area of his plan that failed to be executed. Interesting if true...

 

[raisincharlie]

Just wanted to remind everyone that this isn't the first time a plural has been indicated by LE, remember the Greta interview where the sheriff stated person and corrected it to persons responsible?

Also recall Mr. Peterson being put on the stand to testify that Scott had not told him he was fishing when he spoke with him that day. I'm just thinking of the similarities here with Jason and his parents because I don't think LE will get that info from them voluntarily.

Strach,

I think you are right, LE is not going to get any voluntary information from relatives in Brevard. I think any information obtained will be obtained with lawyer(s) present and even then it will be sparse except for information about how JY reacted to news of his wife being found murdered. JMO

You have a very good memory - do you recall hearing about JY's brother in law driving the SUV when JY returned to Raleigh ? For some reason it is in my head that JY and the brother in law were in the SUV but I can't recall if anyone else was. We know from news reports there was JY, BIL, Sister, Mom and Dad that came back from Brevard. A Ford Explorer is a mid sized SUV. Luggage for five people and five grown people in an Explorer seems like a tight fit for a five hour drive IMO. Recall anything ?

ETA - I also don't think the Samsung phone taken from the SUV was JYs, I think it belongs to a family member (BIL) IMO. The Cingular phone was id'd in the warrants as JYs with a Raleigh exchange. The Samsung was id'd as being found in the SUV but no details on the exchange or no listing as belonging to JY which was greatly detailed with respect to the Cingular phone. Thoughts?

 

[Samiya]

Scandi,

It would be interesting to see an inventory list of what was in the SUV wouldn't it? One has to wonder about this issue of how much luggage he took with him. Assuming he had more than what was necessary for an overnight in VA and at the folks house:

Would he unpack the SUV in Brevard ?

How would he explain all the excess luggage to his folks?

While preparing to come back to Raleigh - did his family see the excess luggage in the SUV, did they even wonder about it?

Upon arriving in Raleigh, the police would now have possesion of all this luggage-did this alert police, or make them think he was preparing to run ?

Lots more questions could be raised by the luggage if it is true there was a significant amount. Maybe , if JY planned this all out, the luggage, which we now know included a laptop, not being unloaded at his folks house is the area of his plan that failed to be executed. Interesting if true...

RC,

Who is F? Scandi's lost me, lol.

(I gotta stop being naughty on ctv, lol. They had me in fits of laughter on one thread)

Sami

 

[raisincharlie]

RC,

Who is F? Scandi's lost me, lol.

(I gotta stop being naughty on ctv, lol. They had me in fits of laughter on one thread)

Sami

I'm pretty sure Scandi is referring to Rhett Fussell.

Happy New Year by the way !!!

 

[Samiya]

I'm pretty sure Scandi is referring to Rhett Fussell.

Happy New Year by the way !!!

Okes TY

Off to sleuthing again because if Mr Fussell mentioned an 'amount' of luggage, then I have a few things to say

 

[Samiya]

The final AR for anyone interested.

Nope I don't have info but I can tell you.....

Because the autopsy is not a clinical autopsy, parts of the results are subject to Forensic analysis (Toxicology etc) and if they're part of the backlog that has occurred then the final AR will be delayed as the examination won't be complete until reports are back.

Sami