Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother NC Part 1

[ISPTRAX]

This thread is soooooooooooooooo long. I'm glad to finally figure out who Josh is! Everytime I log on to check on things, I feel like there will be the Big Annoucement that they've nailed Josh. Errrr, I mean JASON :crazy:

 

[packerdog]

Tee hee, ISPTRAX, I think packer's going to throw the book at us and wish he/she never committed the cardinal sin of mixing up 2 cases (Trenton Duckett's father), lol. I also went "huh??" Sewingdeb and MrsM have kindly replied.

Oh my, I did! There are just to many crimes to keep up with.
:blowkiss: I get so confused. LOL

 

[MREG2]

OK... this was added by same poster, later: confirmed they're an 'insider' again.

Re: Mgt's questions. Jason left home Thur. Pm to go to Va. I do not know the exact time he left but know it was in the evening. He had a meeting there Fri. AM. He checked into a hotel there and called Michelle at around 11 PM that night when he had arrived. He spoke to her and all was fine. He had his meeting Fri. Am and then as had been previously planned, drove to western NC to his mom's house where he'd planned to have a short visit and spend the night before returning to Raleigh the next day. People are very confused over the sequence there because the press has published so many different things. He went to VA, spent the night, had a meeting in the AM, then as planned drove to Brevard. It was while he was enroute to Brevard that his mother received the phone call about Michelle's death. Jason was told when he arrived at her home. The family elected not to give someone that kind of news while they were driving and alone.

If true, he may have driven back - having asserted his 'alibi'. This poster is very clear about the time of the Thursday evening telephone calls - but doesn't give us arrival at hotel or at business, or at Brevard.

This makes sense as to WHY LE were asking if *any vehicles were seen from midnight to 6 am*

Snapshot into my suspicious mind: he did have gambling problems; he was unfaithful; he set up an alibi, drove a little way there - checked in and snuk out - did what he did - went back to hotel and continued his journey.

Sorry.... My hinky meter has simply not left the Jason-Zone at this stage! :snooty:

That's fine and all but it STILL does not explain why LE called Jason's parents and not his own cell.

 

[raisincharlie]

That's fine and all but it STILL does not explain why LE called Jason's parents and not his own cell.

I don't think the police contacting the next of kin's (husband's side) family is exactly proper procedure, in fact it seems to be more of an aberration. I suspect they couldn't reach him on his cell and contacted the family only to determine his where abouts rather than to let them make the decision to tell him of the murder. I suspect his family told him because he may have called them or they called him after the police contact and he answered...if a contact is entered in a cell phone - the number shows up. I suspect he may have been waiting for that call...there I go jumping to conclusions:bang: .

 

[Masissy]

I don't think the police contacting the next of kin's (husband's side) family is exactly proper procedure, in fact it seems to be more of an aberration. I suspect they couldn't reach him on his cell and contacted the family only to determine his where abouts rather than to let them make the decision to tell him of the murder. I suspect his family told him because he may have called them or they called him after the police contact and he answered...if a contact is entered in a cell phone - the number shows up. I suspect he may have been waiting for that call...there I go jumping to conclusions:bang: .

Maybe Michelle's family contacted Jason's parents....

 

[ISPTRAX]

OMG. I just went to that "other site" where all the cousins and friends are bickering amongst themselves and the BIG defender is saying the fax was a surprise gift and it was a leather PURSE! That it was their third anniversary and that one is leather. Was it a Louis Vuitton?????? :croc:

 

[jilly]

I don't think the police contacting the next of kin's (husband's side) family is exactly proper procedure, in fact it seems to be more of an aberration. I suspect they couldn't reach him on his cell and contacted the family only to determine his where abouts rather than to let them make the decision to tell him of the murder. I suspect his family told him because he may have called them or they called him after the police contact and he answered...if a contact is entered in a cell phone - the number shows up. I suspect he may have been waiting for that call...there I go jumping to conclusions:bang: .

That's a good point RC. I'm wondering if it would even be proper procedure for the police to give the news to the parents. Would they not simply leave a message contact the police when he arrived there? Don't they usually want to see the reaction first hand?

Maybe this is what you are saying but I'm a little overloaded from all the pages of reading this morning. This is what we west coasters have to do when a crime happens in the East.

 

[raisincharlie]

Maybe Michelle's family contacted Jason's parents....

That seems much more probable to me than the police contacting his parents and then "allowing" them to tell him - not very likely the police would ever allow this given the seriousness of the situation. Totally outside of proper police protocol, there is an official obligation to be present, not only to assist, but also to observe. Great point !

 

[Boyz_Mum]

Allright, stupid question here: I thought that LE usually sent a real officer to a residence in a case like this? ie: If Jason was known to be traveling to his parent's home, wouldn't LE give ONLY JASON the information as his parent's aren't "blood kin" to the deceased? Do I watch way too many movies?:waitasec:

Maybe my question wasn't so stupid- apparently I am just very slow to post and blame it all on "dial up"...

 

[raisincharlie]

That's a good point RC. I'm wondering if it would even be proper procedure for the police to give the news to the parents. Would they not simply leave a message contact the police when he arrived there? Don't they usually want to see the reaction first hand?

Maybe this is what you are saying but I'm a little overloaded from all the pages of reading this morning. This is what we west coasters have to do when a crime happens in the East.

Yep - that was what I was trying to spit out ! The police definitely make every attempt to be present, either to assist or observe based on the situation.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

I don't think the police contacting the next of kin's (husband's side) family is exactly proper procedure, in fact it seems to be more of an aberration. I suspect they couldn't reach him on his cell and contacted the family only to determine his where abouts rather than to let them make the decision to tell him of the murder. I suspect his family told him because he may have called them or they called him after the police contact and he answered...if a contact is entered in a cell phone - the number shows up. I suspect he may have been waiting for that call...there I go jumping to conclusions:bang: .

We KNOW two things (more or less as fact) about Jason overnight:

1. He left his own home Thursday evening - on a supposed business trip.
2. He arrived at his parents circa lunchtime or shortly thereafter.

We KNOW eight or more things about the crime:

1. According to LE, occurred sometime between 12 - 6 am Friday
2. Meredith discovered the body after Jason asked her to collect a fax.
3. Michelle was cold and stiff to the touch; beaten to death.
4. Cassidy was there; not injured or distressed.
5. No forced entry
6. Nothing seemed stolen, but blood everywhere.
7. It's claimed Michelle was nude when found - other reports state in a sweatshirt.
8. Meredith claims Michelle was supposed to be at work (remains unclear)

We KNOW eight things in follow-up:

1. LE repeatedly stressed this was not a random crime (known to family).
2. LE assured residents and neighbours they had *nothing* to worry about.
3. Jason 'fell to his knees' when he heard, on arrival at his parents (late lunch-time).
4. Jason's car was impounded
5. Jason and his family's luggage were all impounded.
6. Jason was requested to submit DNA samples, etc.
7. Jason has avoided the media
8. Jason lawyered up with high profile atties immed.
9. Jason had been in his sales job for 3 mos

We've HEARD:

1. Gambling debts
2. He hit on women
3. Possible financial problems
4. Jason and Michelle had large ins policies
5. Jason's 'too nice' to do this
6. The fax morphed into a print-out
7. LE are examining everyone known to have been in that house

We THINK:

1. Josh is a plant and Packer's following too many crime stories

Lol, aside from the latter - and having read some of the schplurb on the other blog, it's irritating me that the "insiders" are representing themselves as official spokespersons for LE and considering trailer-park people, burglars and whatever else. LE have RULED OUT a random crime, so these added-stories are moot, imo.

yes, I know I've missed out heaps in the above - but still: it irks me that the Random Crime detail is being ignored by those who are judging equally quickly in claiming Jason's innocence at this stage. He had a hefty ins policy ... and his silence speaks louder than megaphones (IMO).

Does anyone here think LE would repeatedly state this is *not* a random crime if it were not so? Would they issue PROBABLE CAUSE notices compelling Jason to surrender his personal items? No-one else has been issued prob cause, have they?

 

[Boyz_Mum]

OMG. I just went to that "other site" where all the cousins and friends are bickering amongst themselves and the BIG defender is saying the fax was a surprise gift and it was a leather PURSE! That it was their third anniversary and that one is leather. Was it a Louis Vuitton?????? :croc:

That would be a coincidence now wouldn't it?

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

OMG. I just went to that "other site" where all the cousins and friends are bickering amongst themselves and the BIG defender is saying the fax was a surprise gift and it was a leather PURSE! That it was their third anniversary and that one is leather. Was it a Louis Vuitton?????? :croc:

YA SEE!!! There are cat-fights over there. I'm reading there and going "what...the ...."

Golly, ISPTRAX, I'm almost laughing and really wondering if there's not some seedy set up at that site - the likenesses are just tooooo ridiculously close.

Either that .... or ....

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Oh my, I did! There are just to many crimes to keep up with.
:blowkiss: I get so confused. LOL

LOLLLLL !

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

What we don't know:

Jason's exact movements from leaving his house - and arriving at his parents house.

An "insider" claims he placed a call at 11 Pm to his house. That's not been released by LE.

BTW: My gut tells me Jason's clan are hitting forums: dropping in trailerpark dwellers, burglars, sexual predators, keystone cops (this was NOT a randomcrime) and making out as though all family members were issued probable cause, not just Jason - finally: they've going overboard with his 'grief' and 'remaining behind the scenes'.

I think this is another 'perfect-murder' candidate. Sorry to say so, but I do think this!

 

[jilly]

POLKSALADANNIE Thank you for itemizing everything.

 

[ISPTRAX]

yes, I know I've missed out heaps in the above

Great post, PSA. You covered a BUNCH. Let's help fill in more... e.g.:
#8 Jason lawyered up with high profile atties immed. and this was AFTER hearing that his wife and unborn child were gruesomely murdered and BEFORE he went home to find out what was going on!

 

[raisincharlie]

We KNOW two things (more or less as fact) about Jason overnight:

<snip>

Does anyone here think LE would repeatedly state this is *not* a random crime if it were not so? Would they issue PROBABLE CAUSE notices compelling Jason to surrender his personal items? No-one else has been issued prob cause, have they?

Whoa - thanks for the run down Polk Salad Annie !!!

No, I do not believe the police would say it is not random and that the neighbors have nothing to worry about unless it were true or at least strongly leaning in that direction with a reasonable amount of certainty. However, as I understand it the house is still cordonned off and there is a 24 hour police presence - at least this is what my wife heard on Greta last evening. Can't say that is true but...

Maybe what we don't know is actually more important:

1. How long of a drive is it from his home to the location of his alledged business meeting? Did he truly check into a motel and would check in time be consistent with the claimed departure time from his home?

2. Is his presence at said business meeting verifiable ? When did it start, when did it end and would he have had time to get to his parents around noon ?

3. What was his demeanor during that meeting ?

and on it goes ! Thanks again for the run down of what is known - appreciate it very much !

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

POLKSALADANNIE Thank you for itemizing everything.

YW! Please add/edit/amend - whatever - to it!

Decided to get back to basics and add known facts, due to "dumb's" frustrating 'blurb' on 'that other forum'. It's all very well to post opinions, but when those opinions skew known facts - then it's no longer an opinion. It becomes a campaign... (imo)

 

[pack_fan]

YW! Please add/edit/amend - whatever - to it!

Decided to get back to basics and add known facts, due to "dumb's" frustrating 'blurb' on 'that other forum'. It's all very well to post opinions, but when those opinions skew known facts - then it's no longer an opinion. It becomes a campaign... (imo)

Where has it been reported that she was found nude or partially clothed???