Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother NC Part 2

[Taximom]

Oh yeah, and how often did he visit his parents before this happened? I bet not that often.

 

[packerdog]

I do have a problem with Jason reportedly "falling to his knees" upon hearing about his wife's demise. Here I go again with what I would do, but I'm pretty sure I'd look at the messenger (since it's not a cop) and say "Whaaaa?" and ask a lot of questions and maybe then go crazy.


Of course, maybe he did do all this and his stepfather skipped that part.

I would run to the phone and call Meredith to find out what happened.

 

[Taximom]

I would run to the phone and call Meredith to find out what happened.

Wow, excellent point.

Wow.

 

[Masissy]

I do have a problem with Jason reportedly "falling to his knees" upon hearing about his wife's demise. Here I go again with what I would do, but I'm pretty sure I'd look at the messenger (since it's not a cop) and say "Whaaaa?" and ask a lot of questions and maybe then go crazy.


Of course, maybe he did do all this and his stepfather skipped that part.

I agree. Men are natural protectors and the obvious would be for him to go into questioning, getting back in the car to head back home, etc. His entire family "packed" before they left. No way no how with me. As a Mom of two, knowing my child had been through this, I would have told my family they could catch up later in their own vehicle.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Thanks for responding Close. Was it you who commented about sunglasses on the other gentleman with Jason at the funeral? I noticed that too - but guess what! His father had them on as well....just the men....none of the women. It struck me as odd because it looked like a scene from Men in Black.

Haha - I think I'm getting desperate for something to talk about here!

Jilly ... Men in Black. :slap: I watched the clip again earlier; it's not supposed to be funny, but goodness, girl: don't do that ... you and Masissy have me going today, lol

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

PSA,

I think it is worth discussing all of your items. Please understand that some of my responses may seem to defend JY - but that is not really my intent - I'm trying to be a Spock about it.


1. Jason leaving (as reported) 10:30pm for an estimated 5-hr drive. Witnessed by many, with his suitcases.
2. He then books a motel to break the journey.
3. He checks in and calls home at 11 pm
4. That bugs me. 30 minutes out of town and he's stopping over?
First - I'm not sure I recall it being reported that JY left at 1030 - I do recall it being reported that the friends had left at 1030. However, assuming he left at 10:30 - nothing you have listed thereafter makes any sense and I would agree with you - something is major hinky with that. OTOH - say JY left earlier - 7 or 8 - the above makes some sense if his business meeting was located a 5 hour drive away. Essentially cutting the drive time considerably and allowing for a reasonable rest before the meeting.

5. He arrives at his parents earliest 2 pm (as it was 1:30 when Meredith called 911)
6. He'd called Meredith to collect a fax as JY didn't want MY to see it.
7. It was a 'surprise gift'.

Honestly - I think him calling Meredith to go get the fax isn't all that bad in perspective. What bothers me the most about it is why the fax would have been sent in the first place ? If he knew it was coming - that indicates to me he had been in contact with the company sending the fax - why didn't he just say I'll be out of town til Monday - its a surprise - please don't send before Monday. In my mind this is what tells me the so called fax or whatever about the surprise gift was part of some plan. He knew that fax was coming which means to me he had contact with the company - he knew his wife would access it before he returned home - why not have it delayed until he could retrieve it himself ? This is what sets my hinky meter off and pretty much IMO opinion negates any claim that his call to Meridith to retrieve this fax was anything more than a way for someone else to enter that home.

8. We don't know exactly when he had his business meeting; if at all.
9. Family (Internet posts, rather) are saying business in VA and 'swung' by his parents en route there - or home (still to be clarified).

We don't know anything about the business meeting - but one thing I can say is that the posters claiming he went to VA and then swung by his folks - they must be idiots IMO. Wufdude has clearly stated that Brevard is in the southern portion of N.C. - last time I looked at a map - Virginia is north of N.C. These claims seem to me to be ignorant beyond belief and I did not just fall off the turnip wagon. In fact if family and friends are generating these rumors in an effort to make him look innocent - they are doing a fine job of making things look more onerous if one thinks about it.

10. His step-dad knew of the death before JY - who fell to the ground.
11. JY's fam travel back with him: all luggage/car impounded.
12. First thing - JY gets top lawyer; comms to LE stop forthwith.
13. Court requires JY to submit DNA samples (etc)
14. Funeral: JY distances himself from LE, MY's family; gives no obit at funeral
No real thoughts on the above.

15. Vanishes. It's believed Cassidy with him.

One thing about this - I think the little girl is probably safe because if anything - anything at all happens to her now - JY can absolutely pack his bags for the big house. I also suspect - surveillance is an active art of this investigation.

16. Rumours abound; nothing is confirmed - hearsay on both sides.
17. MY's family strip all pics of JY off MY's website.

Rumors well, take them for what they are worth - not much. I don't know for sure that the pictures of JY were removed from the website by MY's family. I'm not sure the website is even working or the circumstances of its initial invention. It may have been strictly a temporary site and this could just mean time is up or it could have been closed by the owner, whoever that might be. So I think it might be best to not read much into that unless the site comes back up and indeed all the pictures have been altered - then we can read something into that.

18. LE states JY not a suspect - they do not have a suspect.

I believe that LE has a suspect or suspects - they can't say that until they can feel they can prove it. LE is now expected to do an incredibly difficult job under the realm of political correctness - which is bull caca IMO but that is how our world has changed. I'm patient - I believe they will name their suspect and subsequently arrest the suspect. The claim they made that it was not random clearly indicates to me they have someone or someone(s) in mind. I do not find it unusual that they have not interviewed JY - he has a lawyer - no lawyer is going to allow that if it can be avoided. I also suspect that the court order issued for samples allowed LE to take a look at his body, at least the articles indicate that is permissable under the order - I bet they took a good look while they had that chance.

I don't want to wait for answers but I would much rather wait and have the LE complete investigations and tie up the loose ends before they react. I think there are two statements from LE that have a large bearing on how this is going - it was not random and there was no forced entry. We shall see and I suspect it will be sooner rather than later, where this goes.

Charlie - I won't 'answer' because I know that's not what you're after. I sense you're after clarification (as we call are). One thing I will say is that I am not stuck on JY as the perp. My hinky-meter is, but I'm not that stuck on it. Nor am I a G fanatic; FWIW - if we DON'T totally scrutinize the spouse, then are we helping the memory of Michelle Marie? I have my own personal reasons for flogging this one - but not to the obstinate levels of previously witnessed 'NG's' in other high-profile cases.

Also, I did NOT think you were defending JY: more over I felt you were defending logic - and that works for me.

To end: EXACTLY: If he left around 7/8, forget the rest of my post. If he left at the (given) times circa 10 onwards - then please: for the love of life, let's truly examine every inch of the journey JY took out of his house.

I am so pleased you posted. Whether ot not JY is guilty - I have to say he showed no remorse - no demand for justice. For his wife and baby - and to future spouses that are perps: that's just not on. (In other words, Jase: Worry about yourself later, chum...)

You made some great points, charlie. Thanks !!!

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

What I would like to know is what time did Jason call Meredith to get the fax. Did she go there as soon as he called? Did she go hours later?

Hi packer: this is exactly my Q in early pages of first thread.

WHAT TIME DID J CALL MEREDITH?

And - as charlie so astutely put it: IF this was a surprise - why the heck did JY not advise responding co to HANG ON b4 sending the fax ....

.... which has since become a printout... :doh:

 

[Boyz_Mum]

Okay, back again and thank you all for the new thread work you've done!

Someone earlier in this new thread thought the dog looked like a Lab-type dog. Okay, not as scary as a Rott but from a dog owners perspective a noisy dog when need be. Not the most aggressive breed BUT have seen them bare their teeth at strangers. Not sure still if an *intruder* could slip in undetected as Labs do seem to have a very keen sense of smell and sound? Any dog experts care to comment?

I am wondering how we KNOW for sure that Jason called home at 11pm. I have read "a friend of Jason's" comments on another board but am unsure if this call has been confirmed by LE? Anyone know?

The fax bugs me even more now because as raisincharlie pointed out, Jason could have easily delayed that "fax/reciept whatever it was" by simply asking the company to delay it's sending- and I still wonder when he placed the order, when would he do it? On the way to Va at night? On the way to the meeting in the morning? On the way to the folks house? And why would he order the present then anyway? It just sounds too clumsy to be true. I'm not saying he couldn't have ordered the "gift" the day before or something like that but whenever I've ordered something by phone, the company sends a confirmation via US Mail- and if I order by internet, the reply is sent almost immediately to my email. I am hung up on the details of this dang fax.

 

[packerdog]

Lawd, guv; a tur sole plate & soul mate at last........

Hi packer: this is exactly my Q in early pages first thread.

WHAT TIME DID J CALL MEREDITH?

And - as charlie so astutely put it: IF this was a surprise - why the heck did JY not advise responding co to HANG ON b4 sending the fax ....

(.... which has since morphed into a printout...) :doh:

Yes PSA it is very frusturating, I want to just yell WHAT TIME DID YOU MAKE THE CALL? I just can't believe stingy they are with the info. We are trying to solve a crime here.

 

[Scout]

What I would like to know is what time did Jason call Meredith to get the fax. Did she go there as soon as he called? Did she go hours later?

I have read only that he called her in the morning and she went to the house at about 1:30 pm.

 

[packerdog]

I have read only that he called her in the morning and she went to the house at about 1:30 pm.

Thanks Scout, that helps some. Can you imagine him on pins and needles waiting for her to go to the house when he knew the baby was there all alone? If he killed her that is.

 

[raisincharlie]

Charlie - I won't 'answer' because I know that's not what you're after. I sense you're after clarification (as we call are). One thing I will say is that I am not stuck on JY as the perp. My hinky-meter is, but I'm not that stuck on it. Nor am I a G fanatic; FWIW - if we DON'T totally scrutinize the spouse, then are we helping the memory of Michelle Marie? I have my own personal reasons for flogging this one - but not to the obstinate levels of previously witnessed 'NG's' in other high-profile cases.

Also, I did NOT think you were defending JY: more over I felt you were defending logic - and that works for me.

To end: EXACTLY: If he left around 7/8, forget the rest of my post. If he left at the (given) times circa 10 onwards - then please: for the love of life, let's truly examine every inch of the journey JY took out of his house.

I am so pleased you posted. Whether ot not JY is guilty - I have to say he showed no remorse - no demand for justice. For his wife and baby - and to future spouses that are perps: that's just not on. (In other words, Jase: Worry about yourself later, chum...)

You made some great points, charlie. Thanks !!!

PSA,

I'm just trying to get more input, open my mind to different ideas and recognize things I totaly overlooked. Many really sharp posters here and as you can tell by my listing - I'm really kind of new and my post count tends to lean that way. I really enjoy other ideas - very often I find something that bothers me but yet someone here can point out so many different ways of viewing things - it amazes me. I like very much to listen to other, more experienced sleuthers, as lots of time I can get way off base and a good reeling in is welcomed always.

 

[MrsMush99]

Yes PSA it is very frusturating, I want to just yell WHAT TIME DID YOU MAKE THE CALL? I just can't believe stingy they are with the info. We are trying to solve a crime here.

:laugh: I know right? I feel like we are all repeating ourselves.

 

[Floh]

No idea if it has to do with anything at all, but something new i haven't seen. i saw this on another board.

a property in the name of Jason and Michelle Young:

http://msweb01.co.wake.nc.us/realestate/Account.asp?id=0246979&stype=owner&owner=Young,+Jason&spg=1

Total Value Assessed: $148,907

wonder who's living there now?

 

[Masissy]

If he called his SIL in the AM to pick up the fax and she did not arrive until 1:00ish, I will be curious to know:

1) where he was when he called her
2) the lapse of time between the fax being sent and him calling her
3) if he ever called her back to see if she had went to the house and was
successful in getting the fax (if he was indeed concerned MY would see the
fax then I would assume he would have followed up)

He had plenty of time to "rehearse" his reaction when he got to his parents. I feel he had his phone off or never answered it so he could have a witness at how he reacted upon hearing the news.

 

[Boyz_Mum]

No idea if it has to do with anything at all, but something new i haven't seen. i saw this on another board.

a property in the name of Jason and Michelle Young:

http://msweb01.co.wake.nc.us/realestate/Account.asp?id=0246979&stype=owner&owner=Young%2C+Jason&spg=1

Total Value Assessed: $148,907

wonder who's living there now?

In the other thread, someone did mention another home owned by the couple. If I am remembering correctly the home was owned before marriage by Jason (and perhaps a roomate?) and then Michelle and Jason bought the home and still own it. (I think I have that right?) It could be a rental property now?

 

[Boyz_Mum]

If he called his SIL in the AM to pick up the fax and she did not arrive until 1:00ish, I will be curious to know:

1) where he was when he called her
2) the lapse of time between the fax being sent and him calling her
3) if he ever called her back to see if she had went to the house and was
successful in getting the fax (if he was indeed concerned MY would see the
fax then I would assume he would have followed up)

He had plenty of time to "rehearse" his reaction when he got to his parents. I feel he had his phone off or never answered it so he could have a witness at how he reacted upon hearing the news.

In addition to your questions Masissy, I am wondering if anyone has reported that the "fax" or whatever it was really existed? Did anyone actually verify anything was sent to the house? (Have we heard the answer to that and I missed it?)

 

[Hopeful One]

In addition to your questions Masissy, I am wondering if anyone has reported that the "fax" or whatever it was really existed? Did anyone actually verify anything was sent to the house? (Have we heard the answer to that and I missed it?)

No answers that I've seen. Everyone is pretty tight-lipped on this case. We aren't getting much information at all, which is great for the case but it BUGS the heck out of ME!!!!

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

packerdog and Scout - this question may seem frustrating - but it's fair play. IF JY was in a bus meeting - and had travelled all that way - he'd not have interrupted the meeting to sort personal affairs (one would anticipate). A 'good call' was earlier suggested here that if JY was so adamant that MY not see the fax then why not instruct the service provider to hang back until JY was ready to manage the paperwork. Was the fax necessary?

Over and above all this, Cynical Cynthia inside of me returns and asks: Good Lord, he wanted a leather purse? Those are available up to midnight Dec 24: it's not as if he was ordering a Bengal Tiger from the outreaches of Asia. I.e: This was not a critical issue to address then and there - esp given the circumstances he was on a bus trip.

Hmmmm, ... JY has a company to respond to and if his alibi, integrity is not looking right, he's out of a job. Maybe he has more than one reason to 'be sure'.

 

[Masissy]

packerdog and Scout - this question may seem frustrating - but it's fair play. IF JY was in a bus meeting - and had travelled all that way - he'd not have interrupted the meeting to sort personal affairs (one would anticipate). A 'good call' was earlier suggested here that if JY was so adamant that MY not see the fax then why not instruct the service provider to hang back until JY was ready to manage the paperwork.

Over and above all this, Cynical Cynthia inside of me returns and asks: Good Lord, he wanted a leather purse? Those are available up to midnight Dec 24: it's not as if he was ordering a Bengal Tiger from the outreaches of Asia. I.e: This was not a critical issue to address then and there - esp given the circumstances he was on a bus trip.

Hmmmm, ... JY has a company to respond to and if his alibi, integrity is not looking right, he's out of a job. Maybe he has more than one reason to 'be sure'.

:laugh: THAT'S GREAT!!!!!