Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother NC Part 2

[raisincharlie]

Article about canvassing the trailer park and apparently JY was at the cemetery today:


http://www.wral.com/news/10349077/detail.html

Jason Young and his daughter reportedly have been staying with family out of town. Sources told WRAL he returned to Raleigh on Friday and was seen at a local cemetary visiting his wife's grave.

 

[close_enough]

I think many of us wondered what it was about Laci's case that grabbed our attention. Speculations covered everything from family pleading for help and media coverage to the timing of her disappearance. Here is another case that is grabbing people's attention and it wasn't the media that took the first step nor the timing. It is the forum posters that grabbed on to this one, the media that follows. The thing that seems to have caught people's attention is that a man may have murdered his pregnant wife and it looks like it may be difficult to prove. I realize I've half convicted the guy in my mind, but I haven't seen anything from him that makes me want to think him innocent. Not one word from him, which speaks volumes.I read at CTV in the beginning and I've skimmed the bickering on a couple of other boards. I prefer the sleuthing to the diametrically opposed camps. Good to see you again, by the way.

you're right....

& good to see you too!

edited to add further with the bold letters....

 

[close_enough]

Article about canvassing the trailer park and apparently JY was at the cemetery today:


http://www.wral.com/news/10349077/detail.html

Jason Young and his daughter reportedly have been staying with family out of town. Sources told WRAL he returned to Raleigh on Friday and was seen at a local cemetary visiting his wife's grave.

thanks raisin...

this is good to know....

James Wilder was also questioned as detectives canvassed the neighborhood.

"He asked if I had seen anything or heard anything," said Wilder. "He was trying to get all the information that he could on that killing."

 

[close_enough]

Well so many times people dont do certain things like leaving, divorcing or murdering without someone waiting in the wings.

IMO

Ocean

you DO have a point Ocean....

 

[close_enough]

Going home to mom and dad at the age of 31 is certainly something to wonder about. Since the house has been released as a crime scene, I wonder how long it will take for him to go home, or if he'll just liquidate and move on.

we'll seeeeeeee!

 

[otto]

Article about canvassing the trailer park and apparently JY was at the cemetery today:


http://www.wral.com/news/10349077/detail.html

Jason Young and his daughter reportedly have been staying with family out of town. Sources told WRAL he returned to Raleigh on Friday and was seen at a local cemetary visiting his wife's grave.

Interesting article. It leads me to think two things. One, they found an unidentified set of prints and they're wondering if anyone in the area is going to step forward and say they were repairing the toilet (or something like that). Two, the didn't find another set of prints and they are hoping someone was up and saw some lights in the area.

 

[otto]

we'll seeeeeeee!

Indeed we will. Scott couldn't wait to liquidate the vehicle and home. What about Cassidy? Will he leave her with his parents and will there be a custody dispute between grandparents, with his parents trying to set some sort of status quo before the dust settles? Little that I know of the guy, he just doesn't strike me as the single devoted dad type. Maybe he is ... maybe he's going to continue dressing Cassidy up in miniature cheer leading outfits and place her high in the air, balanced on his hand (picture from memorial).

"Jason Young bloomed late, and it took him awhile to settle on the idea of marriage." (http://www.newsobserver.com/141/story/511581.html)

Did he settle into the idea of marriage?

 

[otto]

"Jason Young has said he slipped out that evening to get a head start for an early morning sales meeting in Virginia, according to Fussell, who said he talked to Jason Young at his wife's funeral."

Going back to the time he left and why he left, he slipped out in the evening and arrived in time to make a call at 11 pm at the location of his meeting. He stayed at a hotel. [I'm going on the rumours that also mentioned the trailers, meeting in VA, phone call home at 11] After the meeting Friday morning he drove to Brevard to visit with his parents, which he initally told police was in the area of the meeting. He called Meridith in the morning and just after 1:30 he was driving up to his parents house to learn the news. He also placed 2 calls to his wife that went straight to voice mail. Later that day he drove back to Enchanted Oaks with his parents ... but I bet they drove. He spoke 5 minutes with the police and disappeared. He already had a lawyer.

Why did the police say that family alibis need to be verified if he stayed at a hotel? Did he, as someone mentioned, not check out? Did he stay in a crumby hotel that doesn't have cameras? If it was just a couple of hours away, why didn't he make the drive in the morning? Is the traffic better 10 at night than 5 in the am? Okay, maybe he wanted to break up the drive if he had to drive 3 hours to his parents and had a meeting in the middle, but why is that preferable to spending the night with his family?

 

[otto]

http://imaps.co.wake.nc.us/imaps/main.htm?msize=525&cmd=ZOOMPIN&pin=0781818454

That clears up which house it is.

And then this: http://www.wral.com/news/10273399/detail.html

Look at the picture. She holds her head and smiles while he looks like a duffus embarassed to be dressed in a suit. I don't think he could handle the situation that he was in ... economically ... and he took the cowardly way out.

I have noticed that early media reports had pictures of the two together, but recent photos are cropped to exclude Jason.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

None of the above - just curious ! You are right - that turn around spot would be a very good place to take a walk from - no way some one is going to see you and how much traffic could there be there between midnight and 6 am ?

Right and remember Greta and Jim said if they didn't have the lights on out there it would be dark as pitch. Not a thing stirring I bet....except whomever harmed Michelle and the baby.

IMO

Ocean

 

[Taximom]

I wonder if the Youngs had a nightly or early morning routine as far as inside/outside lighting goes. And of course, the big question about their security measures. Did they use a system where you have to key in a code to secure/unsecure the place?

Did they routinely leave a porch light or garage light on outside? Did they close all their curtains or blinds only to reopen them at a regular time each weekday? (Yes, ala Laci.) Were the lights on inside in the early morning hours?

Did the neighbor across the street notice (or anyone else routinely driving by) any differences? Was the morning paper delivered and did that person notice anything unusual (lights/dog barking/baby crying)?

Did they let the dog out or bring the dog in? Take the dog for a walk at a certain time? Did they jog?
:waitasec:

 

[SewingDeb]

http://imaps.co.wake.nc.us/imaps/main.htm?msize=525&cmd=ZOOMPIN&pin=0781818454

That clears up which house it is.

Yes, it does. I clicked on aerial view and moved to the west and could see the trailers just on the other side of the woods behind their house. Thanks for the link.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

"Jason Young has said he slipped out that evening to get a head start for an early morning sales meeting in Virginia, according to Fussell, who said he talked to Jason Young at his wife's funeral."

Going back to the time he left and why he left, he slipped out in the evening and arrived in time to make a call at 11 pm at the location of his meeting. He stayed at a hotel. [I'm going on the rumors that also mentioned the trailers, meeting in VA, phone call home at 11] After the meeting Friday morning he drove to Brevard to visit with his parents, which he initially told police was in the area of the meeting. He called Meridith in the morning and just after 1:30 he was driving up to his parents house to learn the news. He also placed 2 calls to his wife that went straight to voice mail. Later that day he drove back to Enchanted Oaks with his parents ... but I bet they drove. He spoke 5 minutes with the police and disappeared. He already had a lawyer.

Why did the police say that family alibis need to be verified if he stayed at a hotel? Did he, as someone mentioned, not check out? Did he stay in a crumby hotel that doesn't have cameras? If it was just a couple of hours away, why didn't he make the drive in the morning? Is the traffic better 10 at night than 5 in the am? Okay, maybe he wanted to break up the drive if he had to drive 3 hours to his parents and had a meeting in the middle, but why is that preferable to spending the night with his family?

I dont know otto. I think we really need good verifiable detailed evidence of actually when he did all of these things.

My hubby much prefers to drive at night when the traffic is much less. He doesnt want to drive for hours when he has a meeting. So I dont know if I find that suspicious.

I think the family is going to have to present some way of the time he arrived at their place. I am sure they can as they probably have phone calls that are recorded showing when they got the call about Michelle. They may have even talked to him on his cell phone when he neared their place but they did not mention Michelle was dead until he got there.

IMO

Ocean

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Interesting article. It leads me to think two things. One, they found an unidentified set of prints and they're wondering if anyone in the area is going to step forward and say they were repairing the toilet (or something like that). Two, the didn't find another set of prints and they are hoping someone was up and saw some lights in the area.

Interesting article.

Well it sure seems like he is not afraid to come back to her graveside.

I wonder who the unidentified family member was? How does the media know if it was a family member if they are "unidentified"?

Usually a haz mat team will be hired to clean up the biological material left at crime scenes.

IMO

Ocean

 

[SewingDeb]

Interesting article.

Well it sure seems like he is not afraid to come back to her graveside.

I wonder who the unidentified family member was? How does the media know if it was a family member if they are "unidentified"?

Usually a haz mat team will be hired to clean up the biological material left at crime scenes.

IMO

Ocean

Maybe the unidentified person went in to get things for Jason or Cassidy rather than to clean up the crime scene.

 

[jilly]

Interesting article.

Well it sure seems like he is not afraid to come back to her graveside.

I wonder who the unidentified family member was? How does the media know if it was a family member if they are "unidentified"?

Usually a haz mat team will be hired to clean up the biological material left at crime scenes.

IMO

Ocean

Hi Ocean - Just to clarify the article says an unidentified family member or friend.

 

[otto]

I dont know otto. I think we really need good verifiable detailed evidence of actually when he did all of these things.

My hubby much prefers to drive at night when the traffic is much less. He doesnt want to drive for hours when he has a meeting. So I dont know if I find that suspicious.

I think the family is going to have to present some way of the time he arrived at their place. I am sure they can as they probably have phone calls that are recorded showing when they got the call about Michelle. They may have even talked to him on his cell phone when he neared their place but they did not mention Michelle was dead until he got there.

IMO

Ocean

Do we know when he received the information? That would clear up when he drove back to Enchanted Oaks. She was found at 1:30. His family was probably notified around 2. We know that the drive takes 5 hours and it took a short time to pack bags and hit the road. He couldn't have arrived earlier than about 7. I was under the impression that he did arrive around 7, but anyone remember?

It's possible that he wanted to drive at night to avoid the traffic and drive the 3ish hours to his mom's place after the meeting (again going on rumour that the hotel was 2 hours from the house). "Authorities said they believe [Michelle] Young had company until about 10:30 p.m. Thursday. Young's husband, Jason Young, had left town Thursday night for a business trip and was at his parents' home in Brevard when his sister-in-law found the body Friday afternoon, authorities said. (http://www.wral.com/news/10267286/detail.html) Any meeting wouldn't have been finished much before 10 so that would place him on his way to his mom's towards 11 and arriving at about 2, only to drop to his knees with the news.

"I met him in the yard and told him what happened," Gerald McIntyre, the stepfather, said from his home in Brevard. "He went plumb to his knees." (http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/507222.html)

"An Edmonton man on trial for second-degree murder dropped to his knees and cried when a search team discovered his wife's body, court has heard.

Liana White, a pregnant 29-year-old, was reported missing in July of 2005."
(http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2006/11/15/white-trial.html)

I'm thinking these guys get really weak in the knees when they are faced with their reality. Michael made his reality, did Jason?

Can you imagine a guy sitting around by himself wondering how he should act when someone finds the pregnant wife he murdered? We need to ask McIntyre "but did he cry?"

"Anyone who can say that someone who drops down on his knees sobbing in front of his wife's casket did not show emotion, must not have been at the funeral I attended." Guess he did cry ... just like Michael White who, by the way, is crying all the way through the trial. Nothing worse than facing jail rather than a generous life insurance policy!(http://www.topix.net/forum/city/raleigh-nc/TPARI863OPL3J66GN/p2#lastPost)

 

[otto]

Interesting article.

Well it sure seems like he is not afraid to come back to her graveside.

I wonder who the unidentified family member was? How does the media know if it was a family member if they are "unidentified"?

Usually a haz mat team will be hired to clean up the biological material left at crime scenes.

IMO

Ocean

I'm thinking the unidentified family member asked not to be named or the media was polite enough to give them their privacy and still report the news. Cassidy obviously needed things from the house and that would be enough to maintain anonymity in the family member that retrieved some them.

I doubt it would be possible to clean a murder out of a house ... the carpets can be bleached and the rooms freshened, but it almost seems like a good idea to never return to the home, for Cassidy's sake.

 

[otto]

"The young girl can be heard on the 911 tape mumbling after her aunt asked her: "Do you know what happened to Mommy? Did she fall?" http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/507222.html

Did anyone else think "the young girl" was "mumbling"? We are definitely unsure of what she said during the entire conversation, but I wouldn't call it mumbling. In fact, I thought this rather articulate young child was very well spoken but that there were thumps on the tape, interruptions by the dispatcher and we were listening to her voice even though she was not talking on the phone.

ETA: Took forever to find this link: http://www.wral.com/news/10252313/detail.html but it's the 911 call (just scroll down a wee bit). I don't hear anyone mumbling.

 

[AlwaysShocked]

To otto: About computer printers being activated remotely, I have a "4-in-1" machine hooked up to my computer. It is a printer, a copier, a scanner and a fax machine.

The 4-in-1machine stays turned on at all times. Thus, if someone sends a fax, no matter what time of day or night, the machine just prints it out.


P.S. I think the husband did it. (But I always think the husband did it!) I cannot for the life of me believe that an innocent person would not voluntarily be giving fingerprints, blood samples, etc. to assist the police. Yes, I know they have the alleged rape case down there. But this is not a stripper/dancer accuses frat boys of rape -- this is a murder, forgodsade!

And he talked to the police "for about 5 minutes on Nov 3rd"????

I just hope they can nail the b@stard with forensics!