Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother NC Part 2

[PolkSaladAnnie]

The Liana White case is in trial right now. The husband murdered the pregnant wife (there's so much evidence it has to come out guilty, in my opinion) and there is a 2 year old daughter. Sometimes men murder their pregnant wives even though there are children.

I'm leaning towards the whole idea of Jason being the follower and Michelle being the energy in the marriage. It almost looks like a shotgun wedding and it does look like Michelle was the financial backbone of the family. Just like in the Peterson case, Michelle talking about spending time childrearing may have added financial strain that Jason didn't know how to handle. I read that Jason changed jobs because of higher earning potential, but what was wrong with the job he had before? Had he hit the glass ceiling in terms of salary advancements? Is the new job a commission based position and does that mean that he had to work that much harder independently than he did before? Is Jason the type of person that is a self starter and would manage well in a traveling sales position or was this job looking like a lot of work for someone with his personality?

I'm just wondering ... many of us, me included, think men murder pregnant wives because they don't want the responsibility of family. It also seems to come up over and over again that the wives are talking about reducing the family income by one salary. This may be the real reason that men murder. They can't admit that they are unable to maintain their lifestyle on their salary and they don't want to reduce their standard of living.

Hi otto - sorry if this has been answered, but this is where I'm up to in catching up, lol! Just to say: great thoughts - feel exactly same way! And yes, I still believe Jason's involved...

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Some think they can deal with a strong independent partner but find out too late they cannot. I do know guys that have trouble with their wife making more money than they do. Again, some can handle it, some can not.
Just a couple of thoughts. Don't kill me fella's.

Hi charlie.... and they're interesting thoughts: could, say ego be part of a problem with those that may be unable to handle the woman in their life being successful?

If, as you rightly say, those ABLE to handle it are doing OK for themselves is this because of their own success or interest in what they're doing and the female spouse assists in their 'total image' ... would they feel the same way if, for whatever reason the male partner lost current 'ratings' in his social/professional life?

Or, do you feel some really support their wives, irrespective of the earning potential becuase they truly love their wife/partner?

OTOH, perhaps some women like to think they have an equal stance and strive to retain a sense of independence ... again, is ego a qualifying factor in whether or not a marriage is deemed successful, today?

Personally, I feel that anyone with a dominant, as opposed to a strong, character may influence their partner's acceptance, belief and reponses... Just thinking aloud, too, lol...

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

I beleive she was also 4 months along. Reading articles from the trial, testimony was that Michael dropped to his knees and sobbed when her body was found. He put on a good act, imo.

Hi again, SewingDeb! We've missed each other on this busy highway last couple of days; fwiw, I do agree with you. And ... sorry if this has been addressed, I'm still catching up, lol...

Have we heard if he's been back to his house andviewed the crime scene?

Did he double, triple and repeatedly check for himself, his own eyes and parental reassurance that Cassie's room was not entered and that there was definitely no hint of danger to his little girl during this ordeal?

Has he collected her favourite toys and things while she's away from the home?

Has he sat with a psycholgist or therapist with Cassie to ensure she's has no remote/slightest fear inside her little head. She's as bright as a button - hearing her on the tape...

I have so many questions in my head that are making me wonder why Jason has moved in with his parents (ok: ALLEGEDLY..., lol). Someone else did the same thing ehem - and his tears and doubling up over his baby-boy's nursery? Well that turned out to be a storeroom and family photos were trashed.

It's the actual weave and thread in the fabric, not the print or design, that really tell me if I'm buying into quality cloth, that's all, lol.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

i have a suspicion that JY was doing a lot of driving....i also tend to think that there was some kind of "business meeting" ... something brief w/a business associate, that can be verified.....JY has told friends it was an "early morning" meeting......ok, he shows up at this meeting somewhere... 6:30 am???..7 am?..8 or 9??...1 hour meeting, then heads to his parents.....

i really want to know when he pulled up at his parents home on Friday..

You and me ... and few others are asking and sensing the exact same thing, close. I *know* we have to wait and see: however ... while waiting, I'm not seeing (thus far) the right things. Grrrrrrr.....

By all accounts and sleuthers deductions via records, reports, etc, they had to get married, FWAE (haha, new acro for want of an expression, lol.) Maybe that never sat too well with JY? Perhaps he was angling on getting out - or perhaps he somehow wished he could 'pop the Q' on one knee (another FWAE, lol) and therefore hadn't found his soul-mate, irrespective of the wonderful girl/woman that Michelle emerged to be in life?

Was the first accident something to look at, or simply note as the only 'upsetting incident' in their relationship.

If he travelled alot: oh, Lord ... we know travellin salesmen who are still looking for other things (rare, but not a crime, either) may leave their hats in various homes. Only because the opportunity is there; some may have left a hat in a home and hated themself for it? Who knows!

Just thinking .... some more ...

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

heyyyyyy, you got my attention, Ocean.....

hmmmm, could be, could be....IF he did this...

Hi Ocean and close Just reached this post - and as my last post endorses, I'm wondering too... It's possible - if not a little more conveient and easier to hide???

 

[otto]

To otto: About computer printers being activated remotely, I have a "4-in-1" machine hooked up to my computer. It is a printer, a copier, a scanner and a fax machine.

The 4-in-1machine stays turned on at all times. Thus, if someone sends a fax, no matter what time of day or night, the machine just prints it out.


P.S. I think the husband did it. (But I always think the husband did it!) I cannot for the life of me believe that an innocent person would not voluntarily be giving fingerprints, blood samples, etc. to assist the police. Yes, I know they have the alleged rape case down there. But this is not a stripper/dancer accuses frat boys of rape -- this is a murder, forgodsade!

And he talked to the police "for about 5 minutes on Nov 3rd"????

I just hope they can nail the b@stard with forensics!

Thanks for breaking me out of the dinosaur tech age. So if it's a fax, then the machine can figure out what to do. The poster that talked about VA, phone calls home at 11 in the evening, trailer park interference, etc. said it was not a fax but a "computer printout". Maybe the poster is confused about the two, but a computer printout sounds more like an email than a fax. I think the poster also claimed high and low that the print out was about a fax related to a leather purse for the 3rd leather anniversary, which was in October.

I don't always think that the husband did it, but after two weeks of following this case, I think the husband did it. I think he is a pathetic weasel that didn't know what he wanted so he let Michelle guide the way. I think he also didn't know what he had. I think that any time (like when she was pregnant the second time) he didn't like his life he thought about the easy way out - like down an embankment into a river. I think he is such a weasel that when no one noticed an almost tragic death the first time, he became more bold the second time and tried to frame it as a random brutal murder in the bedroom but forgot to show signs of forced entry to the home.

I can understand how a husband would be afraid of the police having tunnel vision but not talking to the police, even with a lawyer present, to help provide information is really bizarre. 5 minutes does not even show "good will".

Michelle was not raped ... based on media reports ... she was brutally murdered in the bedroom of her 2800 square foot home without waking her 2 year old child in more or less the next room. That's remarkable since it is reported that Michelle put up quite a fight. Cassidy could understandably sleep through an argument between her parents (if it happened from time to time), but not an attack with a stranger (as a parent ... that's what I think).

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Remember SP's phone message to Laci on his way home from the Marina? He even called her 'sweetie' I believe.

fran

Oooh, sorry for my consecutive posting style: if this is annoying, I'll try and collectively answer on one post, lol! Pls lemme know... happy to oblige

fran - exactly - as on a previous post: we know SP called Laci and left v/mails - all for what? alibi. So I've wondered the exact same thing. nd if a couple calls went unanswered, WHY did Jason not say to Meredith when he called about the fax ... :

"By the way, Michelle's not picking up; I know she had a Dr's appnt - but could you check up for me? Cassidy would be sleeping/eating/whatever by now ..."

 

[close_enough]

Hi charlie.... and they're interesting thoughts: could, say ego be part of a problem with those that may be unable to handle the woman in their life being successful?

If, as you rightly say, those ABLE to handle it are doing OK for themselves is this because of their own success or interest in what they're doing and the female spouse assists in their 'total image' ... would they feel the same way if, for whatever reason the male partner lost current 'ratings' in his social/professional life?

Or, do you feel some really support their wives, irrespective of the earning potential becuase they truly love their wife/partner?

OTOH, perhaps some women like to think they have an equal stance and strive to retain a sense of independence ... again, is ego a qualifying factor in whether or not a marriage is deemed successful, today?

Personally, I feel that anyone with a dominant, as opposed to a strong, character may influence their partner's acceptance, belief and reponses... Just thinking aloud, too, lol...

HAD to pop back in here before i 'leave'.......this is so much like the Peterson case...S. Peterson......

read this Polk.....it's a good 'summary' of everything with some added info...we know now that Jason DID tell someone his business meeting was in Virginia.......long article, but take the time, when you have the time, to read it.....
http://www.newsobserver.com/141/story/511581.html

you know how SP; the wormy , lying all the time....the salesman that was excited about his baby's arrival???..... yakked it up on how "glorious" life was with his wife ????......JY is the same wormy , but he's learned from SP.......he's learned from all the sick SOB's that just decide one day, probably because they FEEL like a wormy , to just do away with their pregnant wives ...... :furious:

i'll see yall tomorrow....

edited to make a note for PSA

 

[otto]

Hi charlie.... and they're interesting thoughts: could, say ego be part of a problem with those that may be unable to handle the woman in their life being successful?

If, as you rightly say, those ABLE to handle it are doing OK for themselves is this because of their own success or interest in what they're doing and the female spouse assists in their 'total image' ... would they feel the same way if, for whatever reason the male partner lost current 'ratings' in his social/professional life?

Or, do you feel some really support their wives, irrespective of the earning potential becuase they truly love their wife/partner?

OTOH, perhaps some women like to think they have an equal stance and strive to retain a sense of independence ... again, is ego a qualifying factor in whether or not a marriage is deemed successful, today?

Personally, I feel that anyone with a dominant, as opposed to a strong, character may influence their partner's acceptance, belief and reponses... Just thinking aloud, too, lol...

It's the alpha females that become a problem for the alpha males ... especially when finances are out of balance. Even without finances, they are a problem because they have confidence that exceeds the usual working stiff. Alpha females are a threat to pretty much everyone because they defy the traditional nuclear family setup, yet they pull it all off. Someone mentioned (pages back) that Michelle was a 29 year old financial tax analyst with a successful company and Fridays off. She had a 2 year old and was pregnant. She was able to pull it all off ... and she was probably an alpha female, a strong role model and personality that intimidated many men, perhaps even her husband. Reading about her sorority commitments, you know she didn't do anything half way.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

You're welcome and Hello . I'm sure hoping something comes up soon. I was thinking since it took them two weeks to process the crime scene it shouldn't be too much longer now. I didn't see the interview with our Sherriff but I can say from knowledge of him (he lives right down the road from me) he LOVES his community and is very involved here. There are many many cases no matter how small or large that he will personally get up in the middle of the night to go to the scene. He's very involved in our county. I want to think he's keeping quiet because he wants to make sure we don't have the same issues as the Duke case - I want to believe that he learned A LOT from the way that case was handled. I'm not totally sure but I do believe Michelle's case has been one of the most heinous/gruesome crimes this county has seen in a long time (going on my short term memory LOL). Sherriff Harrison is a smart man and I do believe that he has his ducks in a row and we will be seeing an arrest soon. Oh and by the way just as a note - there's a local radio station here that does a "Wake County's most wanted". Sherriff Harrison is very involved in that program and has resulted in quite a few people being arrested because of his involvement. I have every belief that he will remain tight lipped until he has enough to arrest and make a solid case against whoever committed this crime.

Hi Topsail and w/c to W/S!

Thanks for this insight and background. I feel the Sheriff is *not* going to be pressured into what the public wants and cares less for any media congregation in his town/county - and, in tandem with other posters, said as much way back.

Lord, I hope this is not another husband/spouse-did-it case: But this not being random and Jason's belongings *impounded* and Jason's lawyering up immediately with a well-known crim defense lawyer just makes my tea-leaves spell out a few things that words may not have said.

Again (ag! :banghead: ) my own thoughts and opnion.

Btw: have callers rung into that program with their views?

Again, thanks for your posts!

PSA

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

However, I could be in the dinosaur ages regarding remote computer printouts.

Hi T-Rex... this is cynicathan-thouartis... I'm the same - thanks for your links, comemnts and navigation 'red-dot' directions ...

 

[otto]

Oooh, sorry for my consecutive posting style: if this is annoying, I'll try and collectively answer on one post, lol! Pls lemme know... happy to oblige

fran - exactly - as on a previous post: we know SP called Laci and left v/mails - all for what? alibi. So I've wondered the exact same thing. nd if a couple calls went unanswered, WHY did Jason not say to Meredith when he called about the fax ... :

"By the way, Michelle's not picking up; I know she had a Dr's appnt - but could you check up for me? Cassidy would be sleeping/eating/whatever by now ..."

Go ahead and spam the board ... you're not alone :slap:

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

And, that my dear Watson, is why they want to know about any vehicles spotted in the area. I think LE is pretty on their way with this case and we are just catching up.JMO.

Hi concernedperson - missed you too in these posts, recently: lol - love the 'accent' that accompanied your post: and indeed, I'm with you on this. Great job going on here. Also, just b/cos it's easy for a stranger to sneak in' - doesn't rule OUT JY, in fact, may make it even easier if this is JY, knowing the area, house layout, etc ...

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Go ahead and spam the board ... you're not alone :slap:

:blushing:

Sorry.... yikes. I'll quit it. (But standing up and being accounted for...)

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

It's the alpha females that become a problem for the alpha males ... especially when finances are out of balance. Even without finances, they are a problem because they have confidence that exceeds the usual working stiff. Alpha females are a threat to pretty much everyone because they defy the traditional nuclear family setup, yet they pull it all off. Someone mentioned (pages back) that Michelle was a 29 year old financial tax analyst with a successful company and Fridays off. She had a 2 year old and was pregnant. She was able to pull it all off ... and she was probably an alpha female, a strong role model and personality that intimidated many men, perhaps even her husband. Reading about her sorority commitments, you know she didn't do anything half way.

Good read, otto - thanks - so, a Martha Stewart type Alpha Female? (Bcos only from reading and seeing Cybil Sheppherd's role as MS, I see a strong aliance tween MS and your post, above...).

Makes sense because it IS sense... hmmmm... thanks again!

Edited to add: ag! I just had to reply to this one, otto ... this case is clearly under my skin, too. sneaking our for a cup of tea...

 

[SewingDeb]

Hi again, SewingDeb! We've missed each other on this busy highway last couple of days; fwiw, I do agree with you. And ... sorry if this has been addressed, I'm still catching up, lol...

Have we heard if he's been back to his house andviewed the crime scene?

Did he double, triple and repeatedly check for himself, his own eyes and parental reassurance that Cassie's room was not entered and that there was definitely no hint of danger to his little girl during this ordeal?

Has he collected her favourite toys and things while she's away from the home?

Has he sat with a psycholgist or therapist with Cassie to ensure she's has no remote/slightest fear inside her little head. She's as bright as a button - hearing her on the tape...

I have so many questions in my head that are making me wonder why Jason has moved in with his parents (ok: ALLEGEDLY..., lol). Someone else did the same thing ehem - and his tears and doubling up over his baby-boy's nursery? Well that turned out to be a storeroom and family photos were trashed.

It's the actual weave and thread in the fabric, not the print or design, that really tell me if I'm buying into quality cloth, that's all, lol.

Hey! No, I don't think we've heard any of those things. Maybe he moved into his parents because the police kept his home a crime scene for 10 days or so, but he's free to go back now. Wonder if he will.

 

[Taximom]

I'm assuming (heh) that Jason had to go to either Meredith's home or his MIL's home to get Cassidy. I wonder what went on then?! IF he did it, was he able to force tears? (I'm so bad.)

Meredith has a degree in Psychology according to her Myspace site. I keep thinking about that and how she'll be such a great help to Cassidy as she gets older. Actually it sounds like she'll be great even without a degree in Psych.

 

[SewingDeb]

I'm assuming (heh) that Jason had to go to either Meredith's home or his MIL's home to get Cassidy. I wonder what went on then?! IF he did it, was he able to force tears? (I'm so bad.)

Meredith has a degree in Psychology according to her Myspace site. I keep thinking about that and how she'll be such a great help to Cassidy as she gets older. Actually it sounds like she'll be great even without a degree in Psych.

Meredith seems to be a wonderful aunt. She held it together during the 911 call...her degree will be useful, assuming Jason doesn't cut off ties with Michelle's family after awhile.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Hey! No, I don't think we've heard any of those things. Maybe he moved into his parents because the police kept his home a crime scene for 10 days or so, but he's free to go back now. Wonder if he will.

OKAYYYY, thanks: clearly that's why he has not been home, silly me! Indeed, that's the 64 thousand $ Q. WILL HE go back?

Gosh, I tried to catch up at CTV - didn't have the energy to read all those pages especially after catching up here first, SewingDeb ... on the last page or two, someone's posted Jason's got 'no job' - therefore doesn't need his vehicle that's been impounded ... as he's using Michelle's.

Wonder if these rumours are true or if things (imagination-things) are spinning out of control?

With LE investigating the trailer park; wonder if there's anything significant *behind* the Young's home?

Also, one poster referred to, and quoted, a previous post by another insider(not read) as 'something missing' at the funeral. That's got me thinking! What might have been missing?

My waters are running under the Jason Bridge, still. But ya never know, my river might reach a fork, despite it flowing pretty fast, lol.

Thanks Sewing..

PSA

 

[Boyz_Mum]

I can't say for sure. It was here: http://www.topix.net/forum/city/raleigh-nc/TPARI863OPL3J66GN/p3 but I wasn't paying too much attention to the names of the posters ... somewhere around 42 (I think).

I still don't buy the idea that someone could remotely cause the computer printer to turn on, but maybe I'm oblivious to new technological advances. I believe that a fax could come through if the lines are set right, but not a computer printout. However, I could be in the dinosaur ages regarding remote computer printouts.

In regards to the fax/computer printout, I saw a commercial on tv for a company called gotomypc and by the sounds of it, you can access your home/office computer via a location like a library(not that Jason would swing by a library) but also from a hotel or anywhere. Anyway, I guess to me it seems that even if he was on the road and needed Meredith to pick up whatever it was, it seems senselss because he could have easily accessed his own pc or had whomever "hold" the reciept or even had it faxed to a local office supply store- no matter where he was geographically located- he didn't even have to have Meredith go to the house. (Does Jason carry a laptop? I have seen a lot of sales people and most of them seem equipped with laptops and cell phones etc...)