Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother NC Part 3

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  • #301
PolkSaladAnnie said:
nan ... I *think* the cell phone owner has to have the phone ON. If JY called Meredith from his mobile - then they're be able to track nearest tower. IF ... he kept it off and called from a landline say from the alleged business meeting offices ... then they may be stumped. However, I feel that may add to a circumstantial case - they'd check bak on previous trips to determine if he regularly switched off his mobile phone.

I am also convinced Meredith's phone would have been tracked - to validate her testimony. Now ..... IF ..... Jason didn't call her .... hoo-boy .... But then, I somehow doubt it ...

right again Polk....i kinda lean towards him turning the phone off, right after he made the 11 pm phone call...he may have kept it off till he got to his "business meeting"
 
  • #302
scandi said:
Agreed, except he has to get his credit card back in the morning. They don't actually make the charge against it until you check out, to make sure nothing is stolen from the room. At least that has been my experience.

Scandi

well, maybe........ but my husband travels, & he gives them the card up front when he checks in.....they don't keep his card...they never ask for the card again, because he packs up & heads out without going to the 'office' when he leaves.....
 
  • #303
panthera said:
Excellent thoughts and it sure could be possible ~ as long as no one saw him leaving the motel, or returning to it, and he'd have to turn off the cell phone, make sure he didn't get a speeding ticket, stop for gas, etc.:(

yes, he would...that's a lot of driving; seems he'd have to stop for gas, at some point..............IF he's Michelle's killer

there's a chance he might not have needed gas, though...until he was getting ready to actually leave the 'business' area & headed to Brevard....hmmm
 
  • #304
Hi close - back for 2 secs; thanks for your posts ... I read elsewhere (can't remember here, there or where) about Meredith - the poster felt it was strange for Meredith to use the words "did your mommy fall". The inclination was to create an assumption and not a bad suggestion.

This may be true in adult cases - although I hardly think Meredith would say to her beloved baby niece ... "the horrific obvious". Poor baby would have had nightmares - and aside from that - not exactly an image anyone would want a little jelly-tot to consider as to why her mommy wasn't getting up.

Just ... transferring thoughts again...
 
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close_enough said:
well, maybe........ but my husband travels, & he gives them the card up front when he checks in.....they don't keep his card...they never ask for the card again, because he packs up & heads out without going to the 'office' when he leaves.....
I do a lot of traveling too and you do not have to leave a credit card. you give it at the beginning before you get a key to your room. they then charge you for incidentals without you even having to sign.
 
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Cell phone tracking


http://www.mindfully.org/Technology/2005/Cell-Site-Location-Smith14oct05.htm

"When a cell phone is powered up, it acts as a scanning radio, searching through a list of control channels for the strongest signal. The cell phone re-scans every seven seconds or when the signal strength weakens, regardless of whether a call is placed. The cell phone searches for a five-digit number known as the System Identification Code assigned to service providers. After selecting a channel, the cell phone identifies itself by sending its programmed codes which identify the phone, the phone’s owner, and the service provider. These codes include an Electronic Serial Number (a unique 32-bit number programmed into the phone by the manufacturer), and a Mobile Identification Number, a 10-digit number derived from the phone’s number."

This is an outstanding description of how this works written if fairly reasonable terms for understanding.
 
  • #309
scandi said:
Ohhh Nana, that is awful!~ I would revolt somehow or try to come to a compromise. :p Like none of this maybe for awhile till he gets the hint! LOL


Great take Annie on no tip line. I would say this is most unusual to have no reward or tip line. Like someone said, I think they are just polishing their case.

This is not meant to bash a victim, and Meredith is a victim here. Just covering all angles. She was younger, spent time at the house taking care of baby, runing errands, etc, and am wondering if maybe she was involved in any way. I read that possibility at CTV and poo-pooed it. But if there was an accomplice,who would that have been?

I'm not so sure there was an accomplice who did the killing, maybe only to find the body, and the Sheriff said persons in error or we heard it wrong. If Cassidy's first word to Meredith after she first asked Cassidy what happened was 'Daddy . .' maybe he did it himself. Also did you notice that after Meredith heard Cassidy say this so plainly, she asked her again what happened, did her mommy fall, etc. I caught that right away and thought it was very suspicious, as though to illicit a new comment from Cassidy and nullify the first comment she made. Anyone else catch that?

I have a hard time with her word fluke. If she had been called by Josh to go over to the house to pick up something I wouldn't call that being there by fluke. That would be going there for a specific purpose.

If this were the case, Her trauma at the scene would be genuine as it would be the first time she saw her saister dead. Aww, I could be all wet here. Maybe we'll have a break in the case today. Guess this gal's watching NG tonight whether or not she wants to. :doh: Scandi

IF there was an accomplice, i can't imagine it being Meredith....that phone call was not 'acting' imo.....

BUT....... it IS possible JY could have met up w/some 'shady' characters on the road, somewhere along the line, prior to this happening....

i just find nothing at all suspicious about the 911 call/Meredith....

(& i know you weren't bashing anyone...you're a sweet person :blowkiss: )
 
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:slap: me if you want to, but I've just read todays posts at CTV and thought I'd keep us abreast on anything new that they learn. Hope this is OK with you guys, and everything is in my own words except this promo for the NG show in about 3 hours ET:

* Tuesday's show

New clues and a possible new twist in a North Carolina murder case. Why police have turned a sharp-eye on Michelle Young's husband. Tune in at 8 p.m. ET on Headline News.

* The 'no news' in Raleigh is very strange it is almost deafening. Nothing is being said in the media there about the case.
* JY and Michelle's mom didn't get along well
* Michelle told some friends not long before she died that their living thru the accident in '05 was due to 'divine intervention' Cassidy was not in the car.
* The result of Michelles car accident in '05 was she had to have a medical abortion. She was pregnant at the time and the baby stopped growing so he had to be taken.
* One of Jason't male friends said he was unfaithful, and this was taken in a general way with no specific other person mentioned.
* Jason was named as a suspect due to reasonable suspicion in order to get the warrant for his vitals - blood, hair, etc.

And I guess the wind is blowing that this is now the lull before the storm, All quiet, but many looking for the unfaithful part of the equation to surface now, just as it did when Amber became known in the SP case.

Remember, all this info is unverified, although stated by those who say they know friends of Michelle and Jason. Take it for what it's worth. I always like to hear any and everything I can, as long as it is catagorized into verified or simple scoop! YaYa

Scandi
 
  • #312
PolkSaladAnnie said:
Hi close - back for 2 secs; thanks for your posts ... I read elsewhere (can't remember here, there or where) about Meredith - the poster felt it was strange for Meredith to use the words "did your mommy fall". The inclination was to create an assumption and not a bad suggestion.

This may be true in adult cases - although I hardly think Meredith would say to her beloved baby niece ... "the horrific obvious". Poor baby would have had nightmares - and aside from that - not exactly an image anyone would want a little jelly-tot to consider as to why her mommy wasn't getting up.

Just ... transferring thoughts again...

right....Meredith was extremely panicked IMO, but held up I think, primarily for Cassidy....just listening to that call, & from looking at her picture, i bet she's a really cool, caring person.....that's just how it seemed while she was talking to Cassidy.....this has got to be the worst thing that's EVER happened to Meredith, bless her heart.....
 
  • #313
PolkSaladAnnie said:
Zackly... D'you know, I am sure LE are feeling for Michelle's family (naturally...). I think these guys totally resent such senseless murders - and of course they want results and closures to help heal the pain. This Thanksgiving is going to be very difficult for Michelle's family - and it's but days away. Perhaps God will bring closure of some sort shortly before Thanksgiving so that - despite the occasion being a sombre one - there may be 'just something' for Michelle's family to be thankful for: that being the results of an accumulation of dots.

Let's all give a minutes silence when we can, at some stage to day, or even when lurkers, newbies, oldies, regulars, rivals or random members read this post: For Michelle and her Angel Baby and for little Cassie - that sweet little voice we've heard so many times on an emergncy tape ... may her footprints build a stairway to heaven for her mom and baby brother to keep shining on. For Michelle's family, too - and all broken hearts.... Thanks are given for their life...

:( :blowkiss: :(

Thanks Annie for such a heartwarming and wonderful thought, and now that we know she lost another baby in '05, we should include him in our thoughts. These families have had their share of sorrow and that often makes life difficult to bear. I've read that Michells mother is exceptionally upset and do ask for quick justice to give her a sense of peace. Scandi

PS: Gee, it is interesting that two times while pregnant with what would be the second child, Michelle met with disaster! Hmmmmmmm
 
  • #314
scandi said:
:slap: me if you want to, but I've just read todays posts at CTV and thought I'd keep us abreast on anything new that they learn. Hope this is OK with you guys, and everything is in my own words except this promo for the NG show in about 3 hours ET:

* Tuesday's show

New clues and a possible new twist in a North Carolina murder case. Why police have turned a sharp-eye on Michelle Young's husband. Tune in at 8 p.m. ET on Headline News.

* The 'no news' in Raleigh is very strange it is almost deafening. Nothing is being said in the media there about the case.
* JY and Michelle's mom didn't get along well
* Michelle told some friends not long before she died that their living thru the accident in '05 was due to 'divine intervention' Cassidy was not in the car.
* The result of Michelles car accident in '05 was she had to have a medical abortion. She was pregnant at the time and the baby stopped growing so he had to be taken.
* One of Jason't male friends said he was unfaithful, and this was taken in a general way with no specific other person mentioned.
* Jason was named as a suspect due to reasonable suspicion in order to get the warrant for his vitals - blood, hair, etc.

And I guess the wind is blowing that this is now the lull before the storm, All quiet, but many looking for the unfaithful part of the equation to surface now, just as it did when Amber became known in the SP case.

Remember, all this info is unverified, although stated by those who say they know friends of Michelle and Jason. Take it for what it's worth. I always like to hear any and everything I can, as long as it is catagorized into verified or simple scoop! YaYa

Scandi
Thank you, I will be sure to tune in. So it is being said she was pregnant during the 05 wreck. I'm waiting on the girlfriend(s).
 
  • #315
scandi said:
:slap: me if you want to, but I've just read todays posts at CTV and thought I'd keep us abreast on anything new that they learn. Hope this is OK with you guys, and everything is in my own words except this promo for the NG show in about 3 hours ET:

* Tuesday's show

New clues and a possible new twist in a North Carolina murder case. Why police have turned a sharp-eye on Michelle Young's husband. Tune in at 8 p.m. ET on Headline News.

* The 'no news' in Raleigh is very strange it is almost deafening. Nothing is being said in the media there about the case.
* JY and Michelle's mom didn't get along well
* Michelle told some friends not long before she died that their living thru the accident in '05 was due to 'divine intervention' Cassidy was not in the car.
* The result of Michelles car accident in '05 was she had to have a medical abortion. She was pregnant at the time and the baby stopped growing so he had to be taken.
* One of Jason't male friends said he was unfaithful, and this was taken in a general way with no specific other person mentioned.
* Jason was named as a suspect due to reasonable suspicion in order to get the warrant for his vitals - blood, hair, etc.

And I guess the wind is blowing that this is now the lull before the storm, All quiet, but many looking for the unfaithful part of the equation to surface now, just as it did when Amber became known in the SP case.

Remember, all this info is unverified, although stated by those who say they know friends of Michelle and Jason. Take it for what it's worth. I always like to hear any and everything I can, as long as it is catagorized into verified or simple scoop! YaYa

Scandi

oooooh thanks for the update on tonight :)
& the 'scoop' over at ctv too!!...

will def be here for NG...i'm thinking right now...lol
 
  • #316
I'm going to be watching NG also. It will be nice if we get even one new piece of information to chew on.
 
  • #317
scandi said:
Thanks Annie for such a heartwarming and wonderful thought, and now that we know she lost another baby in '05, we should include him in our thoughts. These families have had their share of sorrow and that often makes life difficult to bear. I've read that Michells mother is exceptionally upset and do ask for quick justice to give her a sense of peace. Scandi

PS: Gee, it is interesting that two times while pregnant with what would be the second child, Michelle met with disaster! Hmmmmmmm
Both times she was pregnant with boys also. Interesting.
 
  • #318
close_enough said:
IF there was an accomplice, i can't imagine it being Meredith....that phone call was not 'acting' imo.....

BUT....... it IS possible JY could have met up w/some 'shady' characters on the road, somewhere along the line, prior to this happening....

i just find nothing at all suspicious about the 911 call/Meredith....

(& i know you weren't bashing anyone...you're a sweet person :blowkiss: )


Thanks Close, I think it is only intelligent to consider everything and of course family members are the first in that respect.

But I do have a new gut feeling a brewin' LOL I'm thinking that with regards to Jason we could have an Entwhistle kind of an unfaithfulness - posters from other boards are saying we won't believe what we are going to learn about him! So if there is another person in his life, so to speak, could that person be an accomplice if what Sheriff Harrison said about 'persons' was meant to be stated?

I wonder why these successful, energetic to-be moms have husbands who search out someone else? It is so hard to understand. I remember the day I learned my boss was having sex with the secy and his wife was about to deliver their second child. I almost quit. It worked out fine and they are happy now. A woman gains weight during pregnancy, they all do and aren't as attractive sexually. So why can't they wait till its all done and she's back to her old self again! :banghead: me
 
  • #319
PolkSaladAnnie said:
Zackly... D'you know, I am sure LE are feeling for Michelle's family (naturally...). I think these guys totally resent such senseless murders - and of course they want results and closures to help heal the pain. This Thanksgiving is going to be very difficult for Michelle's family - and it's but days away. Perhaps God will bring closure of some sort shortly before Thanksgiving so that - despite the occasion being a sombre one - there may be 'just something' for Michelle's family to be thankful for: that being the results of an accumulation of dots.

Let's all give a minutes silence when we can, at some stage to day, or even when lurkers, newbies, oldies, regulars, rivals or random members read this post: For Michelle and her Angel Baby and for little Cassie - that sweet little voice we've heard so many times on an emergncy tape ... may her footprints build a stairway to heaven for her mom and baby brother to keep shining on. For Michelle's family, too - and all broken hearts.... Thanks are given for their life...

:( :blowkiss: :(

awwwww, Polk.......you bring me back to earth :blowkiss:
 
  • #320
scandi said:
:slap: me if you want to, but I've just read todays posts at CTV and thought I'd keep us abreast on anything new that they learn. Hope this is OK with you guys, and everything is in my own words except this promo for the NG show in about 3 hours ET:

* Tuesday's show

New clues and a possible new twist in a North Carolina murder case. Why police have turned a sharp-eye on Michelle Young's husband. Tune in at 8 p.m. ET on Headline News.

* The 'no news' in Raleigh is very strange it is almost deafening. Nothing is being said in the media there about the case.
* JY and Michelle's mom didn't get along well
* Michelle told some friends not long before she died that their living thru the accident in '05 was due to 'divine intervention' Cassidy was not in the car.
* The result of Michelles car accident in '05 was she had to have a medical abortion. She was pregnant at the time and the baby stopped growing so he had to be taken.
* One of Jason't male friends said he was unfaithful, and this was taken in a general way with no specific other person mentioned.
* Jason was named as a suspect due to reasonable suspicion in order to get the warrant for his vitals - blood, hair, etc.

And I guess the wind is blowing that this is now the lull before the storm, All quiet, but many looking for the unfaithful part of the equation to surface now, just as it did when Amber became known in the SP case.

Remember, all this info is unverified, although stated by those who say they know friends of Michelle and Jason. Take it for what it's worth. I always like to hear any and everything I can, as long as it is catagorized into verified or simple scoop! YaYa

Scandi

Thanks scandi! I agree - good to hear and take on board all that's doing the rounds. Sometimes its utter hogwash; other times? No smoke without fire. Hmmph. Y'know ... the above may or may not be true, but as true as the Heavens, my waters tell me this all along - JY has a secret history. (Or history-ette.) And I've felt guilty every time I've put that in print!

So Jason & 'Miranda' are still that item to me ... for now. They're locked in with a mega attorney. Ag! Maybe not. We'll just have to see!

If he is d/living and some of these rumors are true, the parallels are quite frightening:

...Media are lying, LE are useless, they're focused on JY fron getgo, haven't looked at homeless/trailker folk, a cult, the "Lee&Jackiespeak" about a loving, happy, truly devoted couple; their son is a good, nice kid, Maine for Christmas, Paris for New Years, Francois, Pascual, cobbled stones of Brussells, condo in Sacramento, travelin salesman, met through a mutual work colleague .... moved out of town and in with family miles away ...
 
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