Michelle Young~Pregnant Mother NC Part 4

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Hmmmm, diet, skimmed milk or - regular?

Both will warm the shackles of me heart ... thanks!

2 percent

LOL, i got kicked offline...was listening to the tune that RC posted earlier in this thread...all was fine till i tried to flip to some other tunes & BAM, i got kicked off; bruised my head......lol, anyway i'm back now....

 

[raisincharlie]

Guten Morgen, raisincharlie

Wie Gehts Frauline PSA. Sprechen sie Deutsch ?

 

[packerdog]

Hi all,

Back from a long Thanksgiving weekend and boy did I have some catching up to do!! Wanted to note that there is a Lucky 32 in Raleigh as well......

http://www.lucky32.com/raleigh.htm

I wonder if this is the one Meredith work at......

nope scratch that - it closed on Octoebr 29th I think it was

Good morning all.

I went to the Lucky32 in your link and it said that the Raleigh one closed at the end of oct. but the other ones are still in business. Maybe she worked at the other one. I wanted to look at the menu but it is in pdf forum, I will check it out later.

 

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Thanks raisincharlie. I won't take it very seriously then until I hear it is official.

same here Cypros...until i hear/read that it's official of him being 30 minutes away, when making the 11 pm phone call, i'm not taking it into consideration at the moment.....i think JY planned this, with some 'brains', but if he was 30 minutes away during that phone call, then i gave him WAY too much credit....i think he was at LEAST over the VA line when he made the call .... we'll see

 

[SewingDeb]

I believe that Meredith Fisher works/worked at Lucky 32, but not sure which one as there are three.

Considering she has a bachelor's degree, she might work in the office rather than the wait staff. Her hours might then be more like 9-5. Did she wait to go on her lunch hour? Or did she leave from her home in Fuquay-Varina. How long would it take to drive to 5108 Birchleaf Dr. from her home or business?

There are 3 locations:
Lucky 32 Cary
7307 Tryon Road
Cary, North Carolina 27511
Lucky 32 Greensboro
1421 Westover Terrace
Greensboro, North Carolina 27408
Lucky 32 Winston-Salem
109 South Stratford Road
Winston-Salem, North Carolina 27104

I'll let someone else do map-work if they want. Maps and I=:sick:

(This is just to keep us busy, I guess! )

Edited to add that one of the things she hated according to her Myspace site was "bad tippers". There goes the office staff theory, eh?

Cary would be the closest to Fuqua Varina.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Wie Gehts Frauline PSA. Sprechen sie Deutsch ?

Gut danke. Du spinst wol! ... Nicht. Ich lehren. Ich verstehe Deutsch ... kein sprechen 100%. Ich bin aus Sud Afrika (afrikaans

bitte

 

[SewingDeb]

Guten Morgen, raisincharlie

All this German reminds me of my early childhood years in Germany.

 

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Even if JY went back to the house and deleted the caller ID, the phone company may be able to provide a record of calls coming into the house....I called Verizion about a call that came to my house, and I also returned the call--then my children erased the number on caller ID. Verizion told me to give them some time and they could get me the number. (The computers keep track of all that we do.)

Also I work part-time at a Best Western Hotel, and when someone comes in for a room, I always ask for a drivers license. But, when we print out their computerized check in sheet aka folio, the time is printed on it. If the customer comes back later asking for a copy of it and I reprint it, the time that shows on the copy is the time that they had originally checked in.

I am having a very difficult time understanding why anyone would drive 30 minutes from home and check into a motel/hotel. If you were that tired, you should never have left home. I would also be interested in knowing if the hotel had security cameras, and if the rooms had interior or exterior doors. If the hotel had exterior doors the staff cannot keep track of the customers movement.

good point Txmom....let's say he called from a landline & called the landline at home....it could be investigated thru phone records....ok, let's say he used his cell phone & called the home landline...that can be verified with phone records, plus they can place where he made the call w/his cell phone (with cell towers)....let's say he called from his cell phone to Michelle's cell phone....voilaaahhh (sp?) that can also be verified with cell towers, as far as where he was when he placed the call....(the area).....

either way, any phone calls can be verified, with some investigating...

i'm also with you about him stopping 30 minutes away "because he was tired"....doesn't make sense & LE would jump on that 'story' in a heartbeat, & one would think that JY would know that too....(maybe not though?)...now if he said, "i got tired & decided to stop just over the VA line" would make just a bit more sense, although a person can be over the state line in a hour & a half to no more than 2 hours (depending if your going west or north, of course).......if he stopped 30 minutes away to go ahead & get a room (due to being tired already) that in itself is extremely suspicious IMO.....this scenario will not help him as far as "reasonable doubt" in a court room....30 minutes away??? naawwww....2 or more hours away, yeah...then that would tighten up a timeline a bit more so "reasonable doubt" could slip in there......

lol, that's just the way i'm thinkin anyway....

 

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Let's say that Michelle's friend or friends came to watch GA an hour or so early so they could yak awhile. JY decides to leave between 7:30 and 8:00 P.M. for say a three hour drive. That would seem reasonable to me.

He checks in, calls Michelle around 11 P.M. and?????????????????????
IIRC, Michelle's TOD was at the latest, 3:30 A.M., according to how rigamortis sets in according to Dr. Baden and she was found at 1:30 P.M.

Sooooooooooo, if JY's meeting was say 9 A.M., at a city three hours drive from his home, IF it were JY, he would have had to leave home by 6 A.M.

Just something to chew on.

JMHO
fran

yes Fran..you're on the 'same page' as me, give or take an hour...he checks in somewhere a couple of hours away, calls Michelle, then drives right back...that would put him back at the house around 1 am or soooooooo....like i said, give or take an hour......

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

All this German reminds me of my early childhood years in Germany.

Hi SewingDeb!! Were you in Germany? Sprechen Sie? Wonderful! I've visited a couple of times, Munich and Cologne. Gorgeous in Spring and Summer; been there mid-winter eek Ahhhh ... O/T, sorry, lol. All charlie's fault :silenced:

 

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I am sure hoping JY did not have time or the presence of mind to unload luggage and what not from his vehicle when he got to his parents. I'm hoping there was a briefcase full of receipts and a lap top in that SUV when he returned to Raleigh - if so, the police know a lot more than we may think without ever talking to JY. Since the police have admitted only to talking to him briefly - I'm thinking they had a different method of figuring not only his whereavbouts but also the times associated. JMO

i'm hoping the same thing RC....& if he was just stupid enough to stay somewhere 30 minutes away, it's quite possible, imo......

 

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I don't have anything useful to add - you guys are way too smart for me - just wanted to say I thought about this little girl this Thanksgiving - without her mommy. Christmas will be hard too. Maybe she's too young to realize now but the holidays will probably always be hard for her because of her moms death right before the holidays. I hope her father was not involved (doesn't look good from what I can see but I've been wrong many times on matters such as this). I wonder if the dad is arrested, will the LE wait until after the holidays to arrest just to allow this little girl some semblance of a merry Christmas?

lol...don't say that....hey, there was a HUGE long thread going when i popped in on this case...i just jumped in & started reading...had heard bits & pieces of the news when it first happened, & it just 'grabbed' me.....

i'm thinking Cassidy will have a good Christmas & good healthy happy life is ahead of her......it breaks my heart she won't ever 'have' her mama around, but with lots & lots of love, she'll be fine....( i HAVE to look at it this way)

 

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lol...we've moved house......thread 4.

Ok, so I didn't go to bed when I said I was going to because something caught me.

while looking into something....

When are new updated phone books released in the USA?

yikes...i can only find our yellow pages, & they renew it again in July 2007....can't find the white pages, ugh.....as a rule, i don't even use the phone book....i look most numbers up on the internet...

 

[Masissy]

Is it reported anywhere that Cassidy got to see Michelle's family over Thanksgiving? It is odd to me that he has not returned to the house to at least get cloths.

 

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OK, so i ran everybody off, lol......

got Dido's live CD playing here with my coffee....catching up....i try so hard to not miss folks' post, but sometimes i just overlook them by accident.....no babysitting the great niece today

 

[close_enough]

Is it reported anywhere that Cassidy got to see Michelle's family over Thanksgiving? It is odd to me that he has not returned to the house to at least get cloths.

morning masissy
..i've heard nothing about them seeing Cassie for T-giving.....if i'm not mistaken though, i BELIEVE family members got some things out of the house, once it was released as a crime scene....i would think Cassie's clothes, & some toys were taken, along with some of JY's things.....

 

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Thanks Close. I've been hiding lately so any new additions probably haven't noticed me. I'm just sitting back and thinking - trying to get some sort of picture or scenario in my mind. I'm still reading every word and mulling it around.

I wonder if Michelle's family will have to file a visitation request with the courts to see Cassidy or if Jason will recognize the importance of Cassidy maintaining a close relationship with Michelle's family.

i would think that IF JY isn't allowing the Fisher family to see Cassidy, they WILL go thru the courts to get visitation....will be interesting to see if this will be the scenario, huh?

i mull here also, when i'm not on the computer....i was laying in bed last night, trying to put myself in JY's place...(the murderer's place, that is)....trying to 'plan' what i need to do, etc.........crazy huh?..lol

 

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6 hours is a long time...now if he left home say around 8pm, that gives him 3 hours extra to drive a decent distance, ring Michelle at 11pm to make sure friends were gone, then head back to the house arriving between 2 and 4 (within the murder timeframe), then get to his destination between 8 and 9 am....trot off to a business meeting then go on to his parents place or drive directly to his parents place, stop at a motel check in, have a shower, etc. That's alot of driving, the murder itself wouldn't have taken long at all.

i think JY did a lot of driving ......

 

[jilly]

Now that I think about it, the sheriff said that even he had not been in the house when interviewed by Greta several days later because the crime scene investigation team was preserving the crime scene.

Good point Otto - I had forgotten about that!

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

yes Fran..you're on the 'same page' as me, give or take an hour...he checks in somewhere a couple of hours away, calls Michelle, then drives right back...that would put him back at the house around 1 am or soooooooo....like i said, give or take an hour......

Hi close ... schlurping the Ovaltine..

I'm with you guys on this one.

I 'see' him leaving shortly BEFORE Gr Anat: This would be to MAKE SURE he had their full attention, noticed cases, said goodbyes ... otherwise he'd just as easily have slipped out nekkid and unnoticed if GA it's all it's cracked up to be (don't know this show - not seen it here ...).

So - that would be latest ... 9:20? I highly doubt guests would have arrived at 7 pm as JTF over at CTV, Misfits, etc, suggested we swallow.

Then he maybe drove no further than an hour and half away; checked in and by the time he reached his room, it was 11.

Could there be TWO reasons he may have made that 11:00 call? 1 to fold into his alibi and 2, to make sure the guests had departed and Michelle was going to sleep. I feel he wanted to 'do' this when she was asleep - almost that she 'wouldn't know' who attacked her. A poster here suggested a ski mask (or cover of sorts - I can see that possibility - nevertheless.

So if he left at 11:30 - 11:45 - traffic would be that little easier and he may have reached home - parked - prepared - slunk in and ---->

I'm curious as to why LE specifically stated midnight and 6:00 am?

Maybe he didn't even go back to the hotel? Maybe he SAID he checked out at 6:00, but didn't complete the sentence as to WHERE he checked out from?

Should we wonder if ... he slept at HIS HOUSE or in the car for an hour or so and drove straight to Va?

Ugh. I can't tell you how many pencils I've broken tring various combinations ...!