Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother Part 6

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  • #221
pack_fan said:
This theory just makes sense to me but please feel free to criticize harshly. I came up with this after reading posts last night and I will reserve the right to change my mind, lol. Hearing all sorts of ideas makes me think harder so please, let me have it :slap: .

I think you're theory is very good. If MY was upset then there's a good chance she was still tossing and turning when he got back.

What's this fax/printout all about then? I believe that this was used so that Meredith would find her sister's body and care for Cassidy. I'm just not sure how it all came about yet.
 
  • #222
strach304 said:
I mentioned my theory on this last night RC, which might explain it. In my scenario the business trip was legit so maybe it was in Va. and we do have to consider that he would want to be home for the game so I think the trip to his parents (1st rumored to be in line w/business) is the after the crime last minute thought to keep him out of town and provide additional alibi after the fact. I'm pretty sure they aren't talking to LE either and adds that little extra reason for the step-father to get an attorney right away imo.
Strach,

I don't disagree with you at all - I find zero logic in a trip to VA followed by a trip to Brevard, followed by a return to Raleigh - I just don't see it given that none of the friends provided any legitimate reason for him to come to Brevard. Under your scenario it makes perfect sense to me why Step Dad would want a lawyer ASAP. If JY calls out of the blue and says oh I'm going to drop by for a visit after my meeting in VA, and an hour or two later Step Dad gets a call that MY is dead, you would think a light would go off. For some reason I don't think Step Dad would have been told about a meeting in VA - more like a meeting near Brevard. JMO.
 
  • #223
strach304 said:
I mentioned my theory on this last night RC, which might explain it. In my scenario the business trip was legit so maybe it was in Va. and we do have to consider that he would want to be home for the game so I think the trip to his parents (1st rumored to be in line w/business) is the after the crime last minute thought to keep him out of town and provide additional alibi after the fact. I'm pretty sure they aren't talking to LE either and adds that little extra reason for the step-father to get an attorney right away imo.
Stratch, I thought about that too but didn't include it in the list. They called him to inform him of the death at his parents house so either he did actually have plans of going there or mentioned to Meredith in the voice mail to go by the house. Would be interesting to see if any of the friends knew about the visit BEFORE he left.
 
  • #224
pack_fan said:
Did you read the disclaimer? Just kidding, I want to know if there are holes in my story although I was hoping it would take you all a bit longer to find them:doh: .....

That is a bit odd rc. Here are some initial thoughts (even though I don't buy all of them myself, I will throw them out there) but I'm going to give this some consideration.....

1. Rhett Fussell is wrong.
2. He travels all the time and doesn't mind the driving.
3. Wasn't going to the game.
4. Had a meeting with another female near the parents.
5. Special event in Brevard or just hasn't been there for a while.

I'm having a hard time believing that this was planned in advance because of the way she was killed. Simple as that. I am working around the fact that it was a "crime of passion" and I may be completely off the mark. They were married and she pissed him off. Well you eventually cool off. I think something happened that night after he left that really set him off to be able to murder her this way. I'm going to give it some thought and as always, I reserve the right to change my mind.

BTW, thanks for the input....
Honestly, I'm hoping you can change my mind, especially when I think about the baby. I've no firm conviction about premeditation at this point. Truth is, I think the murder weapon may decide how I fall on that issue because everything else could be exactly as you have said and explained in the manner you have presented. Including the fax/printout and trip to Brevard. Thanks for your thoughts ! As for how long it takes us to respond, we are craving for more input...IMO
 
  • #225
scandi said:
Well, Fussell also mentioned the luggage. Now this was right after the funeral I think, his post at CTV, and at that point I don't think he had any idea how his words would be taken for salt and most likely even drew further attention by LE. The rumor that he rented a motel room 1/2 hour from his house, I don't know which friend said that.

Adding these things to the picture that is purely speculation with prompring from friends of his, I think it was premeditated. I think the fight they had was the day before, on Wed. She told him to get out and was going to see an attny about a divorce. At least a seperation. So he had his bags all packed and left before the friend got there, which is why he went to Brevard to tell his folks and put his things in his old room. LOL If the 11 o'clock call is true, words could have been said that totally angered him beyond reason, and he drove back to kill her. It might have been when he was packjing his bags that he decided to kill her. That makes sense to me, I don't know about the motel, but it sure would have saved a lot of extra driving!~

Scandi
I don't buy the 1/2 hour out of town motel. I think that was pure speculation between and 11 oclock phone call and rumors of his departure time. I'm not clear on either right now.

That could make sense that they had previously argued. If things weren't going well, it would have taken less to set him off with all the previous anger and a late night call did in fact set him off.
 
  • #226
scandi said:
Well, Fussell also mentioned the luggage. Now this was right after the funeral I think, his post at CTV, and at that point I don't think he had any idea how his words would be taken for salt and most likely even drew further attention by LE. The rumor that he rented a motel room 1/2 hour from his house, I don't know which friend said that.

Adding these things to the picture that is purely speculation with prompring from friends of his, I think it was premeditated. I think the fight they had was the day before, on Wed. She told him to get out and was going to see an attny about a divorce. At least a seperation. So he had his bags all packed and left before the friend got there, which is why he went to Brevard to tell his folks and put his things in his old room. LOL If the 11 o'clock call is true, words could have been said that totally angered him beyond reason, and he drove back to kill her. It might have been when he was packjing his bags that he decided to kill her. That makes sense to me, I don't know about the motel, but it sure would have saved a lot of extra driving!~

Scandi
Scandi,

I think that your scenario makes the most sense of ANYTHING I have read.

Unfortunately for Jason, it still makes it premeditated.
 
  • #227
Why thanks 5bigfish5. Welcome to Websleuths, it's nice to have you here.

I think we're about due for another article in the paper LOL . Dream on, right? When I saw how long it has taken for those warrents to come back I suddenly realized why this thing is taking so darn long. I'm wondering which warrants are still out.

Scandi
 
  • #228
I read on Courttv that someone saw Boodie Boy and he looks like he has lost weight and his eyes were swollen as though he had been crying. Probably knowing the LE is closing in on him.
 
  • #229
raisincharlie said:
I think the murder weapon may decide how I fall on that issue
I'm not sure I'm following you rc:waitasec: . He left, he came back, what is the significance of a bat from the garage or lamp from beside the bed?

I would love to hear your theory on how it happened as well as everyone elses. Anyone else interested in a new thread for theories? I don't want to litter our forum....
 
  • #230
OMG Thanks Masissy, Oooooh, I wish I knew when they planned to do this. His attorney has probably given him the bad news it is imminent. He's realizing it's going to be all Boodie Boy now and he'll be the new hot thing in the joint! :D No chance to choose who or what he wants :D :D No more secret rendevous in far away places :D :D :D


And I suppose none of this entered his mind when he became so incensed with rage that he couldn't stop banging on her head as his little girl and dog both stood by and watched in horror! :loser: Scandi
 
  • #231
pack_fan said:
This theory just makes sense to me but please feel free to criticize harshly. I came up with this after reading posts last night and I will reserve the right to change my mind, lol. Hearing all sorts of ideas makes me think harder so please, let me have it :slap: .
Unless we get more information from LE, all we have is theories! I'm still on the fence about JY, mainly because I just don't want to see yet another case where the husband/father didn't see divorce as an option. But IF he did it, your theory is good, in that something would've had to drive him into such a rage.
:)
 
  • #232
Masissy, do you remember what thread that was on at CTV? Thanks
 
  • #233
scandi said:
Masissy, do you remember what thread that was on at CTV? Thanks
Scandi, go to the following link, click on Michelle Young, then Dec. 13th Daily Thread, on the first page almost to the bottom there is a post by Tennisbuff.

Boodie Boy, is turning in to Boo Hoo Boy.

http://boards.courttv.com/
 
  • #234
Thanks Masissy, I did find another post she did this morning on today's thread. Oh, that's it!!!

Maybe we'll hear something this afternoon!~ Scandi
 
  • #235
pack_fan said:
I'm not sure I'm following you rc:waitasec: . He left, he came back, what is the significance of a bat from the garage or lamp from beside the bed?

I would love to hear your theory on how it happened as well as everyone elses. Anyone else interested in a new thread for theories? I don't want to litter our forum....
Sorry I took so long to answer pack fan; occasionally I find myself confronted with work. I suppose under any scenario he could have returned with only the idea of arguing it all out, getting in his say. IMO if he walked into the house empty handed and they argued it doesn't mean he meant to kill her. If she was killed by an object in the bedroom and there are defensive wounds on her - it could have been as a result of a fight in which he lost it.

It is dramatically different however if he came through the garage for example and picked up a tool on the way or brought some object from elsewhere - he meant some definite harm before he ever approached her. JMO

With the little information we have, I just can't figure if it was planned or not. As time goes on and information comes in, perhaps it will become clear.
 
  • #236
scandi said:
Adding these things to the picture that is purely speculation with prompring from friends of his, I think it was premeditated. I think the fight they had was the day before, on Wed. She told him to get out and was going to see an attny about a divorce. At least a seperation. So he had his bags all packed and left before the friend got there, which is why he went to Brevard to tell his folks and put his things in his old room. LOL If the 11 o'clock call is true, words could have been said that totally angered him beyond reason, and he drove back to kill her. It might have been when he was packjing his bags that he decided to kill her. That makes sense to me, I don't know about the motel, but it sure would have saved a lot of extra driving!~

Scandi

Scandi, I think this sounds very possible. I was thinking that he maybe had given his mom/stepfather some idea of why he was coming to visit, that he was having marriage probelms. Then when his mom/stepfather found out about the murder they thought right away of how bad this looked for JY. Thus explaining his stepfather's almost inapprorpiate paranoia about cooperating with LE right off the bat.
 
  • #237
raisincharlie said:
Sorry I took so long to answer pack fan; occasionally I find myself confronted with work. I suppose under any scenario he could have returned with only the idea of arguing it all out, getting in his say. IMO if he walked into the house empty handed and they argued it doesn't mean he meant to kill her. If she was killed by an object in the bedroom and there are defensive wounds on her - it could have been as a result of a fight in which he lost it.

It is dramatically different however if he came through the garage for example and picked up a tool on the way or brought some object from elsewhere - he meant some definite harm before he ever approached her. JMO

With the little information we have, I just can't figure if it was planned or not. As time goes on and information comes in, perhaps it will become clear.
how very logical that is rc--- great thought-- I have had trouble believeing he got so pisssed after a phone converstaion, he drove back to kill her-- but your thought about the "weapon" of choice, makes me think he may have just gone back to the house to have it out-- not to kill her-- as long as like you state- the weapon was from the bedroom, and not brought in with him---great- great thought there-
 
  • #238
scandi said:
Adding these things to the picture that is purely speculation with prompring from friends of his, I think it was premeditated. I think the fight they had was the day before, on Wed. She told him to get out and was going to see an attny about a divorce. At least a seperation. So he had his bags all packed and left before the friend got there, which is why he went to Brevard to tell his folks and put his things in his old room. LOL If the 11 o'clock call is true, words could have been said that totally angered him beyond reason, and he drove back to kill her. It might have been when he was packjing his bags that he decided to kill her. That makes sense to me, I don't know about the motel, but it sure would have saved a lot of extra driving!~

I dont know that she could have had a friend over and watched tv together if this was the case- 4 months pregnant, throw husband out, then has a friend over? unless the friend knows a whole lot because of her confessing what the problems were, and that is part of the reason le is letting so little out?
 
  • #239
Hi J2mirish, That is hard for me to understand too. The only thing I can think of is if Jason's friend told the truth at CTV and he took his luggage with him when he left that night, it appears they were on the outs enough to where she had either asked or told him to leave. If he didn't really want this because he was comfortable with his situation and he called her and she flipped out at him on the phone, threatening to get a restraining order, or said anything that would further jeopardize his lifestyle, that could have caused his blood to boil and he reacted on his emotions.

Scandi
 
  • #240
I think that could well be J2mirish. She was a sorority sister so they had a bond, and alone with her maybe she just needed to tell someone what was going on who would understand and tell her she was doing the right thing. That info about seperation or divorce also came from one of the 'insiders' so it could be the case.

Scandi
 
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