Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother Part 6

[j2mirish]

Fran,

Thanks for the post. I too am working and it is hard to keep up. Boodie Boy, huh...well we now have a nickname!! So Michelle is rumored to have walked her friend to the car, wonder their take on this. Ambushed so there was no forced entry.

boodie boy....scottie too hottie :doh: :sick:

 

[j2mirish]

Strach,

I think it is a very good theory - logical and very possible.

Sorry if I get a bit anal here - LE published nothing - the media published this information. Anyone of us could walk into the Wake County courthouse, request these search warrant returns, pay for them and walk out. Warrants upon return become public record - LE did not slip them to anyone - they are all signed as being returned. LE has not named him a suspect or said he is uncooperative to a single media person.

Sorry, I felt the need to clarify this. I have a huge weak spot for LE.

weak spot or not rc---its always good to sleuthing possibilities, and "assumed facts":liar: seperated, and pointed out ! :blowkiss: we have veryt very few facts------

 

[j2mirish]

Great! I know they can check it for fingerprints too but if she was looking into stuff on the pc they'll know all that too. I think that fax is gonna be a big problem for him afterall and makes sense the media put out the story revealing MM because she is tied to it. They may already know of others but that's the key point he has to be worried about.
Sounded like the baby said daddy did it. :behindbar

I have so been trying to keep up---- why or where are you coming up with this stmt starch? tia

 

[strach304]

I followed that one too RC, and yes it was sooo very horrible especially watching DH. The Harvey case in Richmond was just god awful and they came armed with guns and they used a hammer. A drug induced rage is consistent with this type of killing but since everything seems to point to the husband I have to think it was a pretty bad fight with a lot of hatred and the possibility that he tried to strangle her first. Of course she would fight and if he threw her across the bed and then picked up a heavy object and went to it it would fit with what we know so far.

 

[strach304]

I have so been trying to keep up---- why or where are you coming up with this stmt starch? tia

From a download of the 911 call Sami had up a few weeks ago.

 

[Samiya]

So I've never heard the expression boodie boy and it isn't in the dictionary. Does it imply ladies man?

I keep wondering why they wanted to see what all the photos were from both computers in Fl and also from the home. I would think they would be expecting something in particular to be included as subject matter, but for the life of me don't see what concern it would have to prove who did the murder or how it transpired or what happened in the aftermath.

Scandi,

It would be to see which one, if any, of the computers has the file that was sent or not sent to Michelle's house on it. The fax/printout may have been a only a photo.

If the home computer has it...it was printed at home in Birchleaf Dr (and the printer spool files can be accessed with special programs to see what time within LE's suspect time frame that it was printed out)

If MM's computer had it....she sent it and they would need to question WHY to see if she is an 'accessory after the fact" (or accessory after the fax, as the case may be)

If it's on a laptop that Jason may have had in his presence (haven't heard nothing about a laptop?) Then he sent it and they would need to find out where he was when he sent it.....means he had to have access to a phone line.

If they both had it, (her in her computer and him on his laptop)one sent it to the other saying "send this to the house"... = strong chance of them being co-conspirators.

If the printout was sent to the computer in fax mode and the computer was off, it would not print it on bootup. It would have shown to whomever sent it as "failed".

Of all the failed print sends I've done then rebooted my computer, I haven't had one magically print out yet. Once shut down, print jobs are purged and no new print jobs can be initiated on an off computer as no data can be sent to the computer.

However if the computer was on and printer off, my computer tells me I have a print job waiting and do I want to print it, when I turn the printer on....but it first goes through a series of screens that come up saying "unable to connect to printer"

 

[Taximom]

Have a great time on your trip PSA!

I have just been snoopin' the other board and that poster in the know is going out of town too! Is there somethin' you're not telling us?

Just kiddin'!!!

fran


Oh............from snoopin' I learned

1. MM wasn't persuing JY, he was persuing her. There was only a one-time consumation of their affair, a weekend her husband was out of town. Of course, remember this is information coming from one of MM and JY's sorority sisters who's probably getting it from MM. FWIW

2. JY was known in college as 'boodie boy.'

3. hints of a co-conspirator! who may be cooperating with LE, especially about the FAX

4. The autopsy report may be out by Xmas, but the friend said she was struck 10 times in the head. There was no murder weapon found at the scene, but it's suspected it was either a hammer or a baseball bat..............and she did have defensive wounds.

5. JY is from $$. Her dad is a neurologist.

6. Sounds like the dog type is a lab. They aren't sure if the dog was in the house or not. They said they let him in and out of the house and garage, (where the door was partially open?)

7. He mentioned 'Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice.' I know that was a movie but I don't remember what it was about, I never saw it.

8. The sorority sisters aren't surprised about the affairs as they thought the marriage wasn't going to work out because he liked to play the field. They were surprised that he did seem to be totally happy and are shocked he's suspected of MY and baby's murder.

9. JY had left for his trip prior to her friend coming over to watch GA. When the friend left at 10:30, MY walked her out to her car.

This person had a few good points.

First, JY left the home, maybe around 5:00 P.M. and possibly arrived at his destination around 9:00 P.M.

Second, LE originally asked if anyone saw any cars in the area between 1:00 to 5:00 A.M., but then revised it to 12:00 midnight to 6:00 A.M. They think they're basing that on JY's timeline as to arrival and distance from home and his appointment the next day.

Third, this person said why aren't they asking about cars in the neighborhood earlier?

Fourth, the person with MY that night did say that part about feeling as if she was being watched, but referred to 20/20 hindsight. FWIW

Like I said in my last few posts, some of this might already have been talked about here, and lot is 'rumor' at this point because LE isn't talking.

JMHO
fran

Oh........PS..........there's a pool not too far from the Y's house with a parking lot, where someone could 'wait' and have easy access to the Young home through the woods in the back............

and PPS.......sorry if I repeat et al, I'm working and can't find the time to read all you've all been sayin'. It's a hit and miss thing for me now.... :slap:

Thanks, Fran!

I think "Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice" was about "swinging", was it not?

I think the pool being referred to was at the rec center for that development behind the Young home in the distance. (not directly behind) Anyway, I discounted that myself as a hiding/waiting spot because it's probably well-lit, and maybe even had camera surveillance.

Welcome to bellgardin!

So much to catch up with, but I really enjoy reading everyone's ideas.

Have a safe trip, PSA! Come back soon!

 

[j2mirish]

Ok listen up guys! I just passed a post over on ctv by a poster named athy and everyone just passed it but her theory fits with a lot of stuff we were throwing around. It's this;what if the fax, printout printed out when Michele powered it up after her friend left that night? As I said before the coach bag was for MM. We've heard there was an 11 o'clock call, Jason's not talking but now MM is. Wonder what she told LE about that and I bet Jason is too. That's why LE published that info to the media and specifically said she's cooperating and he's not.

if the "print out/fax" was really all about mm--- and jy sent the sil to retrieve it--- he is just cooked---- my point being, it will be found out where originated, etc, and why wouldnt you send a non- family member over--- unless he knew she was dead-- and needed someone that cassidy could relate to--- to take care of the baby--I am not likeing the way this looks--- I have felt and hoped from the beginning he wasnt invoved.....still hoping as I back away from my keyboard quickly :truce: :bang:

 

[Samiya]

Hey PSA,

Just saw ya taking a trip

Have fun.

Sami
xx

 

[Samiya]

Just a thought away from my regular way of thinking.

If he is innocent.....
His work may have sent the 'fax'. It may have been a schedule for topics that were going to be discussed at the meeting or the address and client details he had to go to if it was client based and not a full on meeting.

now see my sig below...

 

[Taximom]

I followed that one too RC, and yes it was sooo very horrible especially watching DH. The Harvey case in Richmond was just god awful and they came armed with guns and they used a hammer. A drug induced rage is consistent with this type of killing but since everything seems to point to the husband I have to think it was a pretty bad fight with a lot of hatred and the possibility that he tried to strangle her first. Of course she would fight and if he threw her across the bed and then picked up a heavy object and went to it it would fit with what we know so far.

The Harvey case was so horrible. It still makes me feel ill thinking about it.

I haven't even considered drugs or alcohol being a factor in this case but it's something to keep in mind. I have a feeling we are in for a few surprises that even we can't imagine in this case!

 

[Taximom]

Just a thought away from my regular way of thinking.

If he is innocent.....
His work may have sent the 'fax'. It may have been a schedule for topics that were going to be discussed at the meeting or the address and client details he had to go to if it was client based and not a full on meeting.

now see my sig below...

OK, go with that. Why would he call Meredith, who lives about 30 miles away, to go pick up something like that? I mean, I know why he was calling Meredith...he needed someone to find Michelle. He also had to make that fax something that would look like he had to keep it from Michelle, if this is part of his alibi.
:truce:

 

[Samiya]

Possible Murder Weapon quiz coming up (will ne new thread so all answers can stay in one spot)

 

[raisincharlie]

if the "print out/fax" was really all about mm--- and jy sent the sil to retrieve it--- he is just cooked---- my point being, it will be found out where originated, etc, and why wouldnt you send a non- family member over--- unless he knew she was dead-- and needed someone that cassidy could relate to--- to take care of the baby--I am not likeing the way this looks--- I have felt and hoped from the beginning he wasnt invoved.....still hoping as I back away from my keyboard quickly :truce: :bang:

No need to hide, I think most of us started out hoping for Cassidy's sake that JY had nothing to do with it and even though we would be wrong - I think a lot of us would be still be happy if it turns out to be someone else as long as they are cuaght and brought to justice.

j2mirish - to be honest with you, I think LE knew where that fax/print out came from very early on and they didn't need to get into JYs computer to find out-it was printed out for them in black and white - maybe color as well. It would have been an early focal point as that is the only reason MF gave for being there. This definitely looks bad for JY no doubt. But don't hide - it is good to have opposing positions - how else can we think without prejudice ?

 

[otto]

Hi otto ... and first/foremost: hope you're feeling betta! Rest, swallow - do the necessary as yr health is number ONE...

OK ... we are on same line as MODUS OPERANDI. The true time lines will give credence as to the before/after 1:00 am 'kill-theory'.

We KNOW LE (were) are asking for tips re strange sightings tween midnight and 6.

I feel there is MORE that they have on their cards than simply an estimated TOD. IF, if, if -------> JY did this and parked away aways ... he MAY have brought his car to front of house afterwards (who knows, he may even have kept dog in his vehicle during crime...) to wash, clean, change clothes and STAGE what needed to be staged.

MF stated the house does not "look like it normally does" ... AND: MY was found in main bedroom, face down - on the floor. Seems MY put up a fight as I feel she was attacked as she slept . BUT ... outside of INSIDERS POSTS seems MY was on floor, face down. From that alone, I believe she was attacked as she slept, and struggled for a few minutes before being over powered - she fell into an awkward twisted position. IMO MY was not dead yet ... her blood pumped out on a living heart-beat that enabled Cassie to "step all over her" as the morning hours ticked away.


Here's the caveat - just like Porco's crime, perp may have LEFT HER FOR DEAD ... and it may have taken hour or so to die; so she was (SPECULATION) unconscious meaning she still pumped blood onto the floor - and this is what cassie stepped in and carried around the house.

As there was blood on the bed - this is the first point of brutal contact. MY tied to save herself and died doing so...

Lividity, body-blood-pooling would give closer TOD or estimated...

JY may have 'snoozed" on sofa b4 heding back to "wherever".

He's been silent since 03 Nov. It's now 12 Dec. This buddy, a.k.a. Boodie Boy AINT... gonna talk (ash-hole), IMO...

The Porco crime was very interesting. As I watched the program, I was pretty convinced that the son was innocent but towards the end, when they discussed the son's deceptions about being rich, it all became more clear. I was also aware of the fact that the other son was not interviewed at all during the program ... he may have thought his brother was guilty all along.

I think the heart will keep pumping blood for about 20 minutes as it spills onto the floor. You are probably right in that Michelle was unconscious but still alive for all the blood to be around her. Whoever did this was particularly cruel to the entire family.

I doubt that Jason would have snoozed at the home because he would have been a little afraid of falling asleep and waking up with Cassidy asking what was wrong with mom. I wonder if Jason dropped something into Cassidy's sippy cup to make her sleep a little better.

Anyway, still sick ... this is one nasty flu ... and I even had the flu shot way back in Nov!

 

[raisincharlie]

I followed that one too RC, and yes it was sooo very horrible especially watching DH. The Harvey case in Richmond was just god awful and they came armed with guns and they used a hammer. A drug induced rage is consistent with this type of killing but since everything seems to point to the husband I have to think it was a pretty bad fight with a lot of hatred and the possibility that he tried to strangle her first. Of course she would fight and if he threw her across the bed and then picked up a heavy object and went to it it would fit with what we know so far.

Yes it would I agree. There is something about the way the sheriff reacted to this crime scene that makes me think this is really really bad and it was nothing simple like coming in and killing her as she slept. I'm sure the presence of the baby was part of it but...I think its real bad. JMO

 

[strach304]

if the "print out/fax" was really all about mm--- and jy sent the sil to retrieve it--- he is just cooked---- my point being, it will be found out where originated, etc, and why wouldnt you send a non- family member over--- unless he knew she was dead-- and needed someone that cassidy could relate to--- to take care of the baby--I am not likeing the way this looks--- I have felt and hoped from the beginning he wasnt invoved.....still hoping as I back away from my keyboard quickly :truce: :bang:

But you know he said it was a surprise for Michele, if it's a woman's purse who else could it be for? Meredith was probably the only one with a key to get in that he could call. Just a lot of after the fact panic mode stuff is the feeling I get. I too had hoped in the beginning it was gonna be a case like the Harvey's or Scott Dyleski especially the way that she was killed. He doesn't look like a rage killer nut but then who does?

 

[raisincharlie]

Ok sorry I'm being sloppy and yes you are anal :crazy:
I think LE let it get published and they sure did make the statement he's not co-operating but MM is. That oughta get him worried.

Yes I am anal - its my nature given my profession, in fact a requirement. Just blow me off when I'm a jackazz, which happens frequently - its all good.

 

[strach304]

Yes I am anal - its my nature given my profession, in fact a requirement. Just blow me off when I'm a jackazz, which happens frequently - its all good.

You're very detail oriented, feel free to correct when I get to babbling on, sometimes I just think everyone knows what I mean. :dance:

 

[raisincharlie]

You're very detail oriented, feel free to correct when I get to babbling on, sometimes I just think everyone knows what I mean. :dance:

The most interesting thing about forums - they test one's actual ability to communicate through words alone - darn it sure gets tough at times. :crazy: