Michigan - Coronavirus COVID-19

[MrX]

Immune Response From mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines Is More Robust Than Natural Infection

MSU- WMU vaccine requirement challenged in Court

Four soccer players at Western Michigan University and an employee of Michigan State University are challenging their schools' Covid 19 vaccine policies, contening they are unconstitutional in new Federal lawsuits.

In a separate case, Jeanna Norris, a 37 year old MSU administrative associate and fiscal officer, sued the school's president and Board of Trustees, arguing that she has natural immunity after recovering from Covid late last year.
Her immunologist has advised her that it is medically unnecessary to undergo
a vaccination, the lawsuit has claimed.

Natural Immunity lawsuit is interesting. My friend, who just recovered from Covid, predicted those suits will come with increasing frequency.

 

[ilovewings]

Natural Immunity lawsuit is interesting. My friend, who just recovered from Covid, predicted those suits will come with increasing frequency.

The thing about natural immunity is that as far as I know from reading different articles, they really don't know how natural immunity lasts following contracting the virus. In this particular case, she said she contracted the virus late last year: Let's say she became ill in December: it is now September- That is 9 months--- I don't believe natural immunity would last longer than the vaccine which apparently is effective for 6-8 months. We shall me what happens in this case: it is interesting.

 

[MrX]

Immune Response From mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines Is More Robust Than Natural Infection

MSU- WMU vaccine requirement challenged in Court

Four soccer players at Western Michigan University and an employee of Michigan State University are challenging their schools' Covid 19 vaccine policies, contening they are unconstitutional in new Federal lawsuits.

In a separate case, Jeanna Norris, a 37 year old MSU administrative associate and fiscal officer, sued the school's president and Board of Trustees, arguing that she has natural immunity after recovering from Covid late last year.
Her immunologist has advised her that it is medically unnecessary to undergo
a vaccination, the lawsuit has claimed.

Natural Immunity lawsuit is interesting. My friend, who just recovered from Covid, predicted those suits will come with increasing frequency.

The thing about natural immunity is that as far as I know from reading different articles, they really don't know how natural immunity lasts following contracting the virus. In this particular case, she said she contracted the virus late last year: Let's say she became ill in December: it is now September- That is 9 months--- I don't believe natural immunity would last longer than the vaccine which apparently is effective for 6-8 months. We shall me what happens in this case: it is interesting.

My wife had it in Summer of 2020 and still showed antibodies nine months later. Wasn't there a large scale Israeli study that showed natural antibodies were vastly superior to vax? These law suits will be interesting, as it will force this debate out into the open. Everything that I read arguing against natural immunity seems terribly biased. There was a faction at an AMA conference that admitted that their opposition to Natural Immunity was that it would discourage people from getting vaccinated during future pandemics.

(When I read posts and articles advocating for mask mandates, distancing and forced vaccinations I always sense an undercurrent of seething rage - reminiscent of when an older sibling doesn't have to eat their vegetables, which makes the younger ones feel "punished." The same thing is present when discussing natural immunity - it's like those that never followed the rules, got Covid and recovered are somehow guilty of "cheating" - to accept they may also be immune must be an unbearable slap in the face, to some.)

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

University of Michigan students adjust to COVID-19 guidelines (clickondetroit.com)

Safety measures put in place to keep students safe from virus

ANN ARBOR, Mich. – There was a slight sense of normalcy in Ann Arbor on the campus of the University of Michigan Monday.

It welcomed students back on campus for the first day of classes.

Several measures are in place to keep students safe from the coronavirus.

Things look a lot like normal here in Ann Arbor as opposed to last year when campus was a ghost town.

Still, there are reminders of the pandemic all over campus...

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Washtenaw County preps mask mandate amid ‘high’ COVID transmission level (clickondetroit.com)

ANN ARBOR – Schools across Michigan, including Ann Arbor Public Schools and the University of Michigan, started classes on Monday. The start of the new school year coincides with rising COVID cases as students and teachers head back into the classroom.

On Aug. 26, Washtenaw County reached a “high” level of community spread, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Now, Washtenaw County Health Department officials are finalizing the details of a countywide mask mandate that’s set to be announced later this week and implemented after Labor Day weekend.

“We had said in our school plans that once we reached a ‘high’ level of transmission that we would consider an order,” said Health Department spokeswoman Susan Ringler-Cerniglia...

 

[ilovewings]

COVID outbreaks increase another 11% in Michigan

Covid outbreak increases by another 11% in Michigan

 

[ilovewings]

Judge orders temporary halt to Western Michigan's athlete vaccine rule

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Washtenaw, Ingham counties issue mask orders for schools (detroitnews.com)

Two Michigan counties issued mandatory mask orders on Thursday for K-12 schools along with separate orders requiring isolation or quarantine that allow for enforcement.

The Washtenaw County Health Department and the Ingham County Health Department each issued an order requiring face masks indoors.

Both departments also issued second orders, saying schools and individuals in those settings must adhere to specific isolation and quarantine measures following the identification of close contacts, household exposures or confirmed COVID-19 cases.

While isolation and quarantine are standard procedures for preventing additional spread of the illness when cases have been identified, the Washtenaw order allows for enforcement, "if or when necessary."...

Washtenaw County issues mask mandate for K-12 schools (clickondetroit.com)

Ingham County issues mask mandate for all schools (clickondetroit.com)

 

[ilovewings]

Michigan averaging over 2,200 new COVID-19 cases per day as Delta spreads – The Oakland Press

Michigan averaging over 2200 new Covid cases per day as Delta spreads

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Holland restaurant shut down for COVID-19 rule violations to reopen (detroitnews.com)

A West Michigan restaurant shuttered for five months after refusing to comply with state COVID-19 regulations will reopen this month.

Ingham County Circuit Judge Wanda Stokes signed an order this week allowing the restaurant to reopen about a month after Marlena's Bistro and Pizzeria regained its food license, said Robert Baker, the lawyer for owner Marlena Pavlos-Hackney...

"There is still a legal battle ahead, as we have filed an appeal with the Michigan Court of Appeals," Pavlos-Hackney said. "This is far from being over!"...

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Michigan averaging over 2,200 new COVID-19 cases per day as Delta spreads – The Oakland Press

Michigan averaging over 2200 new Covid cases per day as Delta spreads

I hate to say it aloud, but I think there will be a surge in Covid cases by October 1. The rise in cases (and perhaps hospitalizations) will follow the start of school statewide and Labor Day weekend travel. Sadly, I don't think we're out of this pandemic yet, and those who refuse vaccinations are prolonging the agony. JMO

 

[MrX]

I hate to say it aloud, but I think there will be a surge in Covid cases by October 1. The rise in cases (and perhaps hospitalizations) will follow the start of school statewide and Labor Day weekend travel. Sadly, I don't think we're out of this pandemic yet, and those who refuse vaccinations are prolonging the agony. JMO

It looks your Fall surge, last year, started at the beginning of October and really took off mid-month. Looks similar to last year, where the south and west are showing signs of receding, as it moves to the upper mid-west.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

It looks your Fall surge, last year, started at the beginning of October and really took off mid-month. Looks similar to last year, where the south and west are showing signs of receding, as it moves to the upper mid-west.

Just like there is an annual cold and flu season, I think Covid is here to stay and that we will continually see seasonal outbreaks or surges for years to come. We will have to learn to live with Covid and do what is in our best individual interests to keep ourselves healthy and well. Those who think vaccines work should get vaccinated. Those who feel that masks work can wear masks. If people don't feel comfortable indoors at large gatherings, concert halls, movie theatres, etc. they should avoid such venues. If folks don't feel safe dining at a restaurant, get takeout and eat at home. If parents don't think their children are safe in school, they can opt for online learning.

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[ilovewings]

I hate to say it aloud, but I think there will be a surge in Covid cases by October 1. The rise in cases (and perhaps hospitalizations) will follow the start of school statewide and Labor Day weekend travel. Sadly, I don't think we're out of this pandemic yet, and those who refuse vaccinations are prolonging the agony. JMO

Couldn't agree more- sadly

 

[Yesiamapirate]

Just like there is an annual cold and flu season, I think Covid is here to stay and that we will continually see seasonal outbreaks or surges for years to come. We will have to learn to live with Covid and do what is in our best individual interests to keep ourselves healthy and well. Those who think vaccines work should get vaccinated. Those who feel that masks work can wear masks. If people don't feel comfortable indoors at large gatherings, concert halls, movie theatres, etc. they should avoid such venues. If folks don't feel safe dining at a restaurant, get takeout and eat at home. If parents don't think their children are safe in school, they can opt for online learning.

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I could not agree more with this post!! Thank you for your thoughts. You said it a lot better than I.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

COVID safety protocols put in place at Big House ahead of game with more than 100K fans (clickondetroit.com)

Fans share mixed feelings about safety measures

 

[ilovewings]

The Big House returns to full capacity amid rising COVID-19 cases

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...eners-big-ten-tailgating-fans-covid/573659200

Viewing this scene just keeps me shaking my head! 109,000 people, maskless, many vaccinated, but not all, crowded together at U of M stadium. We are not only in the midst of a pandemic, but we are in the midst of a huge surge involving a variant of Covid that is remarkably highly transmissible and known to break through vaccines. I would be shocked if this does not turn out to be a super spreader event here in Michigan.

While I don't advocate hiding in the closet or living in a bubble, to me, this behavior during this time borders on outrageous.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

The Big House returns to full capacity amid rising COVID-19 cases

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...eners-big-ten-tailgating-fans-covid/573659200

Viewing this scene just keeps me shaking my head! 109,000 people, maskless, many vaccinated, but not all, crowded together at U of M stadium. We are not only in the midst of a pandemic, but we are in the midst of a huge surge involving a variant of Covid that is remarkably highly transmissible and known to break through vaccines. I would be shocked if this does not turn out to be a super spreader event here in Michigan.

While I don't advocate hiding in the closet or living in a bubble, to me, this behavior during this time borders on outrageous.

This scene is going to be oft-repeated during college football season. We'll know in the next couple of weeks whether or not yesterday's game at The Big House turns out to be a super-spreader. Stay tuned.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Judge allows mask mandate to proceed after Lansing school's challenge (detroitnews.com)

A Lansing Catholic school's request to stop the enforcement of a mask mandate was denied a second time Friday, with the judge in part relying on a court precedent to reject the motion.

The denial of Resurrection School's request came the same day the school filed a motion for a temporary restraining order with U.S. Western District Judge Paul Maloney.

Maloney, an appointee of Republican former President George W. Bush, wrote on Friday that here were procedural issues with the request since the school filed neither affidavits nor a verified complaint in the case besides those filed at the case's outset in October...

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Poll shows where Michigan parents stand on school mask requirements (detroitnews.com)

Lansing — Michigan parents are closely divided on whether schools should require their children to wear masks to combat COVID-19, and the vast majority of them have strong feelings on the subject, according to a new poll.

About 49% of those surveyed said they supported requirements that all students and staff in a school wear masks, while about 45% said they opposed the idea, according to the survey of 600 parents with children in public schools. The Aug. 23-26 poll by Glengariff Group had a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points and was commissioned by the K-12 Alliance of Michigan.

When the topic was addressed differently, specifically raising the possibility of parents deciding about mask use, 54% said parents should choose whether their students wear masks in schools, and 42% said all students should be required to wear them...