Miners Trapped In WV Coal Mine

  • #21
concernedperson said:
I am really worried about this incident. The methane gas is in the hole and the weather is bad.
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I am also worried about the gas fumes.I've had them on my mind all day.I pray they get out safely,they are so deep down..I also watched the one in Somerset Pa..They must be so afraid...God be with the families.
 
  • #22
I just heard on Fox they are starting to drill holes now to push pipe down to let in air. They said that will take hours.

One thing the miner guest said is these guys are taught to wait patiently for help and reserve everything like light, water and food.

Scandi
 
  • #23
Prayers being said here for these men and their families. May the Holy Spirit be with them and their rescuers.
 
  • #24
This is one of the cases that I don't feel good about.I am crying about it but I don't feel that it will be resolved in a way that we want..
 
  • #25
I last heard that they are trying to make a way for piped air etc. but they really have very little to go on as to where the miners are located....

Bless them all, and their families and friends...

lynie
 
  • #26
I could barely watch the news coverage when they showed family members going to the mine. :(

When I first heard they were approx. 1 mile below the surface, that scared me more than anything. Tonight I saw a computer simulation of where they are and they are actually about 260 feet below the surface. The actual entrance to the mineshaft IS a mile from where they think they are though. Does that make sense?! (They get below the surface at an angle instead of going straight down an elevator-type thing, like I originally thought.)

:doh: OK, I'll be quiet now.
 
  • #27
Right..they weren't in elevator type thing. They were in mining cars which would have went down at an angle or winding down and most likely on rail tracks or I am assuming so.



Taximom said:
I could barely watch the news coverage when they showed family members going to the mine. :(

When I first heard they were approx. 1 mile below the surface, that scared me more than anything. Tonight I saw a computer simulation of where they are and they are actually about 260 feet below the surface. The actual entrance to the mineshaft IS a mile from where they think they are though. Does that make sense?! (They get below the surface at an angle instead of going straight down an elevator-type thing, like I originally thought.)

:doh: OK, I'll be quiet now.
 
  • #28
RKnowley said:
Right..they weren't in elevator type thing. They were in mining cars which would have went down at an angle and most likely on rail tracks or I am assuming so.
Thank you for clarifying that!

I was a bit relieved to hear that the rescue would not mean having to go 1 mile straight underneath the surface. Not that 260 feet is much different to them, I guess. But hopefully it might mean saved lives. We are praying for that anyway.

Does anyone know what type of pay miners receive for all this risk?
 
  • #29
Good grief, this FOX news article says the company had as many as 46 alleged health and safety violations following an extensive 11-week review ending 12/22/05. :(

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,180362,00.html

You can bet there will be lawsuits when this one is over.
 
  • #30
The one thing that saved the PA miners, was that an individual was able to calculate exactly where the trapped miners would hole up, and when they drilled the air hole, they hit that area perfectly; exactly where the miners were. I haven't followed this disaster on the news so I have no idea whether they were able to do this same thing with the trapped WVA miners. Let's pray that will happen.



OFF TOPIC, but in reference to coal mining in PA. As kids in PA, our swimming holes were all flooded coal strip mines, and flooded coal mines, that left ponds large enough, and deep enough to swim in. We even had burning mines less than a mile from where I grew up. That's where coal that is burning 1000's of feet underground. I think they finally managed to extinguish that burning mine area in the last 15 years. Burning mines were exceptionally difficult to extinguish.

My mother's second husband, when he died in 1999, left a very small share of an 87 acre PA parcel purchased in the early 1900's, to us (my mother's five children). A coal company wanted to buy the property so they could mine it as it was next to their mining area, and wanted to buy everyone out. Their attorneys, as attorneys often do, used scare tactics. and they were able to get enough people to accept their paltry offer, that they were able to press the issue in court, to obtain the rest of the property from the remainder of us. This took years --about 4-5 years; I was the only holdout in my family--the coal company's attorneys had most people believing that they would end up owing court costs/lawyers fees if they hesitated in selling. After it went through the PA court system, with various referees, and whatever else,. required, I received 3 and 1/2 times as much as my brothers and sisters; of course my share, received just a few months ago, was still less than $100, but that wasn't the point. Being the youngest has a lot to do with it.
 
  • #31
Taximom said:
Thank you for clarifying that!

I was a bit relieved to hear that the rescue would not mean having to go 1 mile straight underneath the surface. Not that 260 feet is much different to them, I guess. But hopefully it might mean saved lives. We are praying for that anyway.

Does anyone know what type of pay miners receive for all this risk?
Their pay now is much improved from what it used to be. Now they make a decent wage; recognizing that pay scales in that area are very low, as compared to CA for sure--but I think now they are earning up to 50K a year, which is very good for those areas.
 
  • #32
I am hoping for the best but looks grim :(

"This carbon monoxide level far exceeds regulatory limits for respirable air ... " said Hatfield. "Therefore we are very discouraged by the results of this test."

Hatfield also said rescuers on the surface pounded on the drill several times for about 10 minutes with no response. There has been no contact with the miners since Monday's blast.

A camera also was dropped into the mine via the drill hole, and the "visual search" of the area in the mine was "inconclusive," Hatfield said.

"No barricades or survivors were seen, but there was also no evidence of substantial explosion damage to the installed equipment that was in view."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/03/mine.explosion/index.html
 
  • #33
What ticks me off is the media shoving microphones and cameras in the miner's friends and family's faces. I don't need to know what is going through their mind or how they feel?!! How do people THINK they feel?!! My gosh! I cannot fathom how they feel and they need their space.

I am hopeful for these 13 brave men. This is such a dangerous job. The mine my SIL works at is allegedly going "broke" and they won't spend money on fixing equipment or upgrading and that should not be allowed to happen. I think more inspections or more strict inspections need to be done. I have heard people say that people die in car accidents, falls at home, etc., etc. But these guys are not even at a place where rescuers can get to them easily and it should be as safe as possible.

These miners, their families, their search and rescue teams are in my prayers. I just hope it's another mining miracle!
 
  • #34
My SIL gets great pay and excellent benefits...but what pay would be enough? There isn't enough money or benefits in the world for me...that's for sure!
Taximom said:
Thank you for clarifying that!

I was a bit relieved to hear that the rescue would not mean having to go 1 mile straight underneath the surface. Not that 260 feet is much different to them, I guess. But hopefully it might mean saved lives. We are praying for that anyway.

Does anyone know what type of pay miners receive for all this risk?
 
  • #35
T'sNana said:
What ticks me off is the media shoving microphones and cameras in the miner's friends and family's faces. I don't need to know what is going through their mind or how they feel?!! How do people THINK they feel?!! My gosh! I cannot fathom how they feel and they need their space.

I am hopeful for these 13 brave men. This is such a dangerous job. The mine my SIL works at is allegedly going "broke" and they won't spend money on fixing equipment or upgrading and that should not be allowed to happen. I think more inspections or more strict inspections need to be done. I have heard people say that people die in car accidents, falls at home, etc., etc. But these guys are not even at a place where rescuers can get to them easily and it should be as safe as possible.

These miners, their families, their search and rescue teams are in my prayers. I just hope it's another mining miracle!

I am hopeful too that they are in another area and barricaded. I can't even fathom what the families are going through. I'm praying for a miracle as well!
 
  • #36
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060103/ap_on_re_us/mine_explosion


TALLMANSVILLE, W.Va. - Rescuers trying to reach 13 trapped miners punched a hole into the mine early Tuesday, but a company executive said he was "very discouraged" by air quality tests.

Carbon monoxide levels measured 1,300 parts per million, exceeding the 400 parts per million maximum safe level, said Ben Hatfield, chief executive officer of mine owner International Coal Group Inc.
"We are very discouraged by the results of this test," Hatfield said.

Still, Hatfield said the trapped miners could still be alive.
 
  • #37
Rescuers drill 6-inch-wide hole into West Virginia mine
Officials "very discouraged" by carbon monoxide levels
No response from 13 trapped miners to tapping on drill
Drill camera reveals no miners, damage
Miners could be elsewhere, official says
"Hope remains" as search continues
 
  • #38
christine2448 said:
Rescuers drill 6-inch-wide hole into West Virginia mine
Officials "very discouraged" by carbon monoxide levels
No response from 13 trapped miners to tapping on drill
Drill camera reveals no miners, damage
Miners could be elsewhere, official says
"Hope remains" as search continues
I'm praying so hard for these miners. They have been constantly on my mind since I heard the news yesterday. I so hope that they locate them quickly and that they have barricaded themselves in a safer area with breathable air ...
 
  • #39
News conference coming up.
 
  • #40
Sassygerl said:
News conference coming up.
Sasser, can you tell us what is being said, I am at work, no TV.

Thanks in advance.
 

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