Missing 8 mth pregnant Marine Maria Frances Lauterbach- NC #2

[nanandjim]

She bought a bus ticket to El Paso ( never used) a day or so before she was reported missing. What was in El Paso? And why wasn't she going to drive her car? She asked if she could leave her car at the bus depot.

Reports say she and Cesar L. were on "friendly terms" and that they still worked together in the same office.

Was he playing her along, implying that he cared for her, so she'd drop the charges? Did he tell her he'd meet her in El Paso... and he'd drive her car there?

Someone moved the car shortly after the ticket was bought, from the bus depot to a diner/fast food place, where it was left for several weeks.

How did she get to his house, where she was murdered?
Did he lure her there? Did she go there to confront Cesar's wife?
Was the wife involved in the murder?

I'm sure she was afraid for her life, from the threats, abuse, and harassment she received. (Been there, when I went thru an abusive divorce.)

Did she drop the charges because she feared for her life? (I did.)

Did he make promises he wouldn't keep, to keep her silent? (Mine did.)

Just some Hmmm questions I have.....

P.S. People used to tell me almost everyday that I was so lucky to be
alive and to be rid of the creep I married.

Your thoughts are running along the lines of mine (that I posted earlier). My speculation is that he was stringing her along. He probably did tell her that he would meet her in El Paso. Someone at the bus station said that she parked her car there. It was moved for a reason. So, someone other than the victim knew her plans. I suspect that he made it out to be a grand scheme. He may even have told her that he would leave his wife but they had to set it up in a way so they couldn't be traced. Wasn't it said that the military was considering discharging her from the service? If so, maybe, she didn't think that she had much to lose. Plus, at 20 years of age, you don't really think about the consequences of your actions.

What if Laurean picked her up from the bus station parking lot and told her that he needed to stop by his house to get his things. Once inside, he murdered her. It was definitely premeditated, IMO.

I don't believe that his wife is in on it. She probably was told a pack of lies by her husband--lies that she believed. He probably told her that this psycho/stalker/liar was trying to ruin his life and marriage. She probably believed him. Geez...If she was beginning to doubt her husband, all she had to do was listen to the victim's own mother, who said that she was bipolar and a compulsive liar. I know that I would think that a person's own mother knew her child better than anyone...

 

[STEADFAST]

Her superiors have the perfect out, thanks to this poor girl's mother. I'm sorry, but there would be no way that I would say anything bad about my child. Heck, my child is far worse than her child; and I still would not say anything bad. That's just my opinion.

I don't think they have an out. They will be held responsible for their poor decisions, both before and after she disappeared. Also, if Lorean's attorneys are military attorneys, they will be held partially responsible for his flight.

As far as her mother goes, though, I bet her statements about her daughter, which were probably pretty complicated since she was probably trying to give a full picture of her child to help LE look in the right places, were taken completely out of context.

 

[nanandjim]

^ my feelings exactly!

Also in the uncles interview he says she was not friendly with him after the fact.

Plus, the uncle said that Maria may have "stretched the truth when under duress;" however, she was not a compulsive liar.

Thank you, Uncle, for standing up for the precious victim.

 

[nanandjim]

...As far as her mother goes, though, I bet her statements...were taken completely out of context.

I surely hope that you are right about this.

 

[boody]

watching a current interview with the bonehead sheriff... 2:30 press conference.

i'm guessing the baby may be alive?

 

[Taximom]

nanandjim, I'm in agreement with you and peace. I think he led her on to gain her trust but only wanted to kill her.

I've been wondering if the contact she supposedly made (sheriff said she initiated the contact) was due to her mom telling her she should give up the baby.

She calls him to let him know that's what she's going to do, or doesn't want to do, to see what he thinks. As the father, would he still have to pay child support if the baby is adopted out?

Anyway, I can't think of any reason for Maria to have initiated contact after that phone call with her mom unless it was about the baby's life after it was born.

I'm so upset with so many people right now that just watched this happen and are basically at fault for her death. She was so young, and probably very naive. This one breaks my heart.

We must all watch out for the pregnant women in our lives if they are in precarious situations.

 

[SLP]

I have been following this case and have to say that it has had a lot of twists and turns. I am saddened by the way that Maria was portrayed in the press before her remains were found.

The suicide thing is really strange. I have a hard time believing that she went to his house and slit her own throat. Even a harder time believing that he reacted to that by burning her and burying her in his own back yard. You would think if someone commited suicide right in front of you (that has accused you of rape no less!) that you would be on the phone to 911 and preserving the scene as much as possible so that LE could see that she did it herself. Also how possible is it to cut your own throat to the point where the wounds are so deep that you would die quickly enough to where calling 911 would not be an option?Doesn't make sense to me AT ALL.

What I have considered though is why he would come up with a story like this right now. I think it is a logical asssumption that he has been watching a lot of news lately since the girl that he had buried in his backyard has been splashed all over it. I am sure, if this assumption is true, it is possible that he saw another big news story that has been in national news too. The one about the husband accused of murdering his wife. That husband is just now going to trial after being free for almost 10 years! They have evidence against him but his defense all along has been that his wife commited suicide but hated him so much that she did it in a way that would frame him for her murder. To get back at him for being with someone else. Maybe he felt the walls closing in and thought that might be a last ditch defense he could use too especially with the recent reports of her being mentally unstable and accusing him of rape even though she was still keeping a friendship with him. Just thinking.

I really do need to step away from this (stayed up way too late last night reading here LOL) but I am waiting today to hear more and hopefully about the baby. It seems like this Sheriff with his interviews knows he is keeping everyone on the edge of their seats.

 

[Indy Gal]

watching a current interview with the bonehead sheriff... 2:30 press conference.

i'm guessing the baby may be alive?

Please why do you say this, are they leading you to believe this. OMG this would be a great outcome to a horrible thing

 

[bakerprune64]

Your thoughts are running along the lines of mine (that I posted earlier). My speculation is that he was stringing her along. He probably did tell her that he would meet her in El Paso. Someone at the bus station said that she parked her car there. It was moved for a reason. So, someone other than the victim knew her plans. I suspect that he made it out to be a grand scheme. He may even have told her that he would leave his wife but they had to set it up in a way so they couldn't be traced. Wasn't it said that the military was considering discharging her from the service? If so, maybe, she didn't think that she had much to lose. Plus, at 20 years of age, you don't really think about the consequences of your actions.

What if Laurean picked her up from the bus station parking lot and told her that he needed to stop by his house to get his things. Once inside, he murdered her. It was definitely premeditated, IMO.

I don't believe that his wife is in on it. She probably was told a pack of lies by her husband--lies that she believed. He probably told her that this psycho/stalker/liar was trying to ruin his life and marriage. She probably believed him. Geez...If she was beginning to doubt her husband, all she had to do was listen to the victim's own mother, who said that she was bipolar and a compulsive liar. I know that I would think that a person's own mother knew her child better than anyone...

Nan, I totally agree with your post. Well written:blowkiss:

 

[peace9274]

Or...... Maybe Maria's mother may have known that Maria was frightened and thus was going to renege on the charges against C.L. ... and that possibly she (Mom) knew that Maria was going to try to get away... to El Paso? Was Mom trying to help her daughter on dropping the charges?

I definitely think there's more to Mom's "derogatory comments" about Maria than just being critical of her daughter or just providing Maria's B/H.

Mom may have been hoping she was alive, probably hiding somewhere....
even after Maria had not contacted her Mom nor answering her cell phone for several days..... even after Mom contacted LE to report her missing.

 

[Cubby]

As the father, would he still have to pay child support if the baby is adopted out?

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No, he would not, BUT for a legal adoption the mother would have to name the father, and, it's my understanding BOTH parents permission are needed as adoption terminates the mothers and putative fathers parental rights. Especially had already been named as the putative father. (Not sure if putative is the correct word...... but I think this is one of the reasons why that living baby that was dropped off at a safe haven drop off is listed on doe network, they need to find and get permission from teh father before the baby can be legally adopted ? )

 

[Taximom]

Thank you, Cubby. That in itself is motive, IMO.

 

[Cubby]

YW TM.

I'm not entirely certain on that as all states differ, but some states now have putative father registries for unmarried men. IF they are on that list a mother can not legally put up her child for adoption without his permission, and testing to see if he is the father. I think they are doing this to protect fathers rights.

 

[nanandjim]

...I've been wondering if the contact she supposedly made (sheriff said she initiated the contact) was due to her mom telling her she should give up the baby...She calls him to let him know that's what she's going to do, or doesn't want to do, to see what he thinks...

Very interesting. As others have noted, the father's signature would be needed for the adoption. Maybe, he thought that she was trying to trap him into saying something. Wasn't she due to testify at a hearing in the very near future? This could have set off panic bells in him. Thus, he begins his plan. Now, you have me thinking. What if he tells her that he knows family in Texas who will take the baby and raise him until Maria can get on her feet or that they will allow Maria to be involved in the baby's life?

There is a reason why she purchased the bus ticket to El Paso. There is a reason that her car was moved. There is a reason that money was withdrawn from her account. It all revolves around the lies of Laurean, not Maria, IMO.

To add: I don't see any of his relatives calling him a no good louse; a liar; a philanderer, etc. All I have seen in print is "His wife is heart broken."

 

[peace9274]

I really do need to step away from this (stayed up way too late last night reading here LOL) but I am waiting today to hear more and hopefully about the baby.

ME TOO! :behindbar

It has taken me all day to take down the Xmas tree and decor all over the house! And I'm still not done! I need to keep coming back to see if anyone has any new info that isn't on CNN, Fox, Headline News.

I'm glad it was posted that there's going to be a press conference at 2:30 PM! Thanx! Maybe I can get something done in the next 40 minutes.

 

[peace9274]

FOX is having a report/update..... "awaiting News Conference".

 

[Ticamom]

ME TOO! :behindbar

It has taken me all day to take down the Xmas tree and decor all over the house! And I'm still not done! I need to keep coming back to see if anyone has any new info that isn't on CNN, Fox, Headline News.

I'm glad it was posted that there's going to be a press conference at 2:30 PM! Thanx! Maybe I can get something done in the next 40 minutes.

Hi Peace ! I know how you're doing cause that 's what we did yesterday afternoon. I had cnn on the tv and my laptop open in the living room so I could keep an eye on any updates at the same time we put away all the Christmas decorations and took out the regular decorations, moved furniture, etc. Boy, am I glad it's all put away !!!! Whew !

On another note, I literally cannot wait any more for an update on what they found in the firepit. And if Sheriff Duncecap tells us it's bizarre or if he goes into one of his yellow journalism monologues , I think I will pull out my hair and scream ! I need to know what is going on, and I need to know from someone who actually know what he/she is doing. :furious:

 

[SuziQ]

Live feed of the crime scene here pending the news conference:

http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news/live_video.html

 

[peace9274]

ME TOO! :behindbar

Maybe I can get something done in the next 40 minutes.

On the other hand.... :waitasec:

 

[SuziQ]

If you get a black screen click on play and you should see video of the crime scene.